02-21-2010, 09:55 PM
(02-21-2010, 08:28 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Wow, you've had it rough. Congratulations on maintaining your sanity through it all.
Who said I still have my sanity? :p
(02-21-2010, 09:06 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I also asked my friend named Michael, who was both a 60s generation drug addict and an alcoholic and quit upon getting religion, after causing enormous stress in his family. His answer to that question was "Jesus." I suppose it could be argued that he exchanged one addiction for another, but I see him as a well-adjusted, emotionally healthy person, with a lot of light. He is one of the nicest, most wonderful people I've ever met. We have discussed his experience in coming clean and he never mentioned any trauma catapulting him to quit. The trauma he experienced was in the throes of the addiction. Maybe he neglected to tell me all the details.
Ask him what his rock bottom was. Then he will tell you.
As to finding Jesus, this is what I talked of before, and I got this philosophy from Q'uo (I think). They explained that those that are in the darkest places use it to springboard into the light. Jesus just happens to be the direction of light for many. I used to think the same thing, that they trade one addiction for another, but now I believe I understand it from the Q'uo channelling.
(02-21-2010, 09:06 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I have another friend who was a methhead, and another who was a crackhead. I'll ask both of them, out of curiosity, and report back later.
Do so if you desire. Satisfying your curiosity is what you do it for. I don't need to know. I have been to many NA meetings and listened.
(02-21-2010, 09:06 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I'm not trying to win a debate but am interested in exploring anything that seems to be an indisputable rule.
Win if you like
Possible, but improbable.(02-21-2010, 09:06 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: You have more direct experience with this, but I am curious whether your experience is representative of some, most, or all people in that situation. Am I questioning your unshakable rule? Yes, I tend to question any rule presented as an absolute.
As I did ask these questions many times, leading me to my understandings.
A rule... perhaps I used the term incorrectly. When it comes to the millions of addicts in the USA, there has to be exceptions.