01-06-2013, 07:27 AM
(01-05-2013, 10:12 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(01-05-2013, 07:09 PM)ShinAr Wrote: And anything in the Ra Material that contradicts or denies that infinity by speaking of concluded futures and alternate realities, would heavily disturb those vibrations whenever the two were being compared in the field of consciousness.
Yes, but this is just the thing, Shin'Ar. Nothing in the Ra Material contradicts or denies the mystery of infinity. What you are responding to in this forum- and have been from the moment you joined- is other people's distorted ideas about what the material says. Not the material itself.
So you see, your comment I quoted above is actually quite off-base. If you had actually read the material, you would cease to believe that you are arguing against it. Because you are not. What you are actually doing is arguing against other people's distorted views of the material, which are being presented as fact simply because these have become the views of the majority. As if- simply because the majority of people "believe" in something, it actually becomes an accurate representation of reality.
Since you clearly haven't read the material, you of course wouldn't know any better. So you are pretty much in the same boat as all the other members who haven't read the material either, but continue to speak about concepts contained within it as if they had.
TN,
You know that I have always placed great value on your forthright and open minded efforts to communicate with me.
I understand exactly what you are trying to suggest to me here and you are partially correct, in that I do like to challenge other's interpretations of the Ra material. Is that not what this forum is designed for? Discussion of the material?
I study it at the pace and quantity that I am able to given my physical limitations. No, I have made it clear that I have not studied it in its fullness. But I have studied and been studying it. These discussions with others about it help to further illuminate the Material. many quotes are often presented in support of personal interpretations and I get the chance to discern quotes that I may not have otherwise come across.
I am fully aware that many of these members have different interpretations, and I am also fully aware that many will not accurately interpret the material.
I never accept interpretations by anyone as gospel. ( I know TN, that is really not a valid use of that word, lol).
And yet you are right again in that when I first came here I became immediately aware that many were radically altering Ra's words to meet with their own curiosities of the dark path and STS.
That was not hard to see and I did begin to immediately start challenging those thoughts in the hopes of both presenting my understanding of what Ra was saying on STS, and in more fully understanding why they chose to interpret the quotes their way?
Your noting that there are many distorted interpretations here, is no different than my challenging those interpretations in the hopes of further clarification and discussion of them.
Now when you say that I am in the same boat as all others that have not read the material, are you suggesting that it is not appropriate to discuss or challenge interpretations unless one has studied the Material in its complete fullness?
I am a little confused there.
Also with regard to the material speaking to The Mystery, and your statement that Ra does not speak of alternate realities, or already concluded futures, I would have to disagree, in that I have read quotes that do seem to suggest a contradiction with Lord Thoth. But you are right that it is possible, because of the fact that I have not read ALL of the material, that I may yet come to realize something different.
I actually hope that turns out to be the case, because from the beginning I have hoped that the Ra Material would further support The teachings of Thoth. The similar offering of congruent information is one of the things which I am always in search of to add credence to my own understanding and the effort to build the puzzle.
Now at this point we would usually provide a few quotes to point to why we have interpreted as we do to see who has the more to offer and then discern whether or not we need to alter our thinking.
But given recent altercations with a couple of other members I have lost all desire to get into anything of such complexity at this point.
I hope you will be available for such at a later date and that you do not feel ignored by me in any way. you know how I love a healthy debate.
But given the way I have recently been unjustly portrayed here I have sort of lost interest in attempting to relate to anyone else right now. Some people are very difficult to relate to and take everything said as insult and attack, and it becomes very uncomfortable.
In short, I understand your point about following misinterpretations and the need to make sure I do not form my opinions of the Ra Material based upon the interpretations of others, right or wrong.
But I do not understand why you would think I do that in the first place, when you know how often I deliberately delve into the dynamics and intricacies of the material in my discussions. I, of all people, am extremely wary of personal interpretations, and rely heavily on my own discernment and connection with the Material..