12/21/2012: David Wilcock, Harvest, Ra, New Age Gurus. What does it all mean?

[Shin'Ar]

For when you say illusion, what you are actually speaking of is delusion.

Not true. We exist.

But as WHAT? That is the crux of the human dilemma with identity, delusion and cosmic oneness.

What is a 'we'? What is an 'I'?

You and Pickle think it is the temporary form you utilize at this time.

I think it is far more complicated and complex than that. I do not see myself as the form of Shin'Ar. That is the vehicle which the field of consciousness uses to interact with other material forms of similar vibration.

I suppose this would just go in a circle forever. There is an inability to adequately make a point which can result in any sort of mutual understanding, so it makes greater sense to abort the effort.

Just curious: Have you read and studied all of the Law of One books, Shin'Ar? If so, do they form the foundation of your beliefs, or did you take some elements and fit them into an already-existing structure of belief?

No judgment towards you either way. But, if the Law of One is just a small piece of your greater spirituality, then that might explain why our understanding of it is different. For me, and for many others in this online community, the Law of One is our foundation, so our views may tend to be different from yours for that reason.

I think you would find that there are many seekers in this community who are not attaching to the Ra Material as though it is a new religion to be professed and idolized.

There are many here who, like myself, study the Ra material to discern from it what correlates with their overall understandings.

Those who do not, and that may have adopted the Ra material as some sort of gospel which cannot be argued and needs no discernment, do so in ignorance or defiance of Ra's very specific declaration that everything that they offer for information must be discerned according to the comprehensive abilities of each person receiving it.

Be careful with what you establish as the foundation of your 'beliefs', because if that foundation suddenly collapses, nothing else will survive the destruction.

I would say that the foundation of this and any community should always be honesty and love.

And being honest with ourselves first, will result in the further nurturing of our honesty toward others.

But, should we deliberately dwell in delusion, regardless of any chosen foundation or belief as the reason for that delusion, then the only thing that will be further nurtured is the delusion.

When I study the Law of One I do not do so with the passion to memorize each and every verse as though a Christian learning their Bible.

I have no desire to read each and every verse in some belief that the very words are sacred to me because of their origins. I see no runes or enchantments in the Ra Material.

I study the material as information offered that seems to relate to many things that I have similar understanding of. I also find some material there that I believe is severely inaccurate, and tainted with the same vulnerability to misunderstanding that all forms of consciousness would suffer.

So you see Monica, it is not just our views that differ, it is more that if you are placing all your faith in the material without any desire to question it, then anything other than the Ra material, that anyone would have to offer you, would be met with indifference.