The Harvest that didn't happen?

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Again- L/L may have made the distinction clear, and I am just not aware of it. But I am thinking of the perspective of those who come to the Ra Material, having taken at face value that it says certain things which it does not.

I did a search for "ascension" at llresearch.org and found a few things.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0204.aspx

The concept of ascension is a concept that we have found largely within your cultures’ Christian belief systems. The beliefs vary, but the basic commonality of this idea centers upon the concept of some entities being physically removed from the surface of the Earth to safe places at a time when the remainder of the population of the Earth will be destroyed by the end of the world or some other version of the apocalypse, whether the cause of it be man or spirit. It is not our understanding that this concept is a helpful one spiritually. It is not our opinion that this is the way things work in any physical sense. In our opinion the processes of ascension or harvest are subsumed within the process of moving through the physical death and entrance into larger life, as this instrument would put it.

http://www.llresearch.org/interviews/int..._0929.aspx

Recently we stared getting a wave of fourth-density wanderers. And guess where they’re coming from Lance? They’re coming from Earth.

Lance: Oh really?

Carla: These are the people who’ve already graduated. They’ve gotten to the end of their lives, they’ve died a natural death, which I think is what ascension actually is. They walk what the Ra groups describes as steps of light, every step of light being a little bit more dense with light, dense with information.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0219.aspx

In this instrument’s mind, we find the word “ascension” to have connotations of confusion and chaos. This, my friends, is because as long as spiritual texts have been offered to the people of your planet, the subject of ascension has been one that is held in heavy dispute. Depending upon the way one’s culture works, ascension may or may not be a part of the tenets of the religion of the culture. It may or may not be the way that particular religious or philosophical system describes spiritual advancement. Therefore, there is a certain amount of emotion that clusters around this concept and tends to create a situation in which it is difficult to speak about the subject without exciting emotion.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0120.aspx

This will not occur suddenly in terms of there being a necessity for a sudden change of third to fourth density. Rather, there will be a time of between one and three hundred of your years, from the probability/possibility vortices at which we now look, where your peoples will be able to continue to incarnate in third density to continue to heal the planet and to harvest those entities who are ready now to choose light over darkness, love over fear, and the lessons of the compassionate heart over the lessons of self interest. These are the cycles that we see at this time.

http://www.llresearch.org/interviews/int..._0118.aspx

We had better get to some questions. The first question is, “What do you think that ascension will be like? Carla, you’re my guest. You can go first.

Carla: All right. Ascension is a big buzzword. And, like most buzzwords, it has come to mean less than it should. There’s a lot of fear involved in it. I wrote a series [of articles] on 2012 recently in my column, which you can get from “Carla’s Niche” by going to www.llresearch.org, or www.bring4th.org. It was a good series, I think. It had four or five parts. You might want to take it in, because it probably covers the subject better than I can in ten or fifteen minutes with Wynn here.

Long story short, I believe that ascension or harvest or graduation is going to be individual. It’s going to be at the end of our natural lives, when we pass from the physical and drop our physical bodies. I believe that we will then move into our spiritual bodies. I think for ascension you move into the violet-ray body. The violet-ray body is the read-out of the whole energy body. So you move into that body and you are in a place that is in time/space.

http://www.religionandspirituality.com/v...027517671/

2012 is significant in the Confederation information not as a time of abrupt Ascension nor as an Armageddon that wipes out Planet Earth, but as that moment in time when it will become virtually impossible to do further work in refining our choice of polarity. Like oil and water, third-density and fourth-density vibrations will begin to pull apart. It is already far more difficult to begin to polarize now than, say fifty years ago. Fourth-density waves of truth have interpenetrated third density more and more. All the issues with which we have avoided working until now are coming up in our lives and smacking us in the face. It is time to face these issues. It is time to fall in love with ourselves.

http://www.religionandspirituality.com/v...631057491/

Beginning with Part Three of this series, I will talk about the Confederation view of how to prepare for 2012. Their suggestions are based upon our understanding of death as an event which engenders no fear, hence my work in this present article as I try to bring you to a more realistic connection with how you feel about your coming death. Fear plays no part in the Confederation cosmology! Let it play no part in ours!

I open my arms and embrace your spirit! Let us be fearless before the prospect of our deaths, and fearless alike before the prospect of our continued lives within the veil of our present incarnations! Let us rise to meet what comes with hope and faith, and go forth into the passion play of life in joy and thanksgiving! I walk with you into the adventures which lie ahead!

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If he slept in the room 20 years later... then I guess the experience discussed here happened circa 2004. So maybe he didn't know them before that.

Yeah, that's more the time frame that I had thought.