12/21/2012: David Wilcock, Harvest, Ra, New Age Gurus. What does it all mean?

[zenmaster]

If we choose to look at 'harvest' this way, all of the bitching and moaning is akin to a sprinter being upset that the starting gunshot went off.

I would say it is more akin to the gunshot going off, and the sprinter bitching and moaning because they still actually have to run the race rather than having a medal awarded to them for simply making it to the starting line.

Seems like the general presumption of the wanderers, who are, as a whole, no more diligent in their responsibilities than the natives. Congratulating themselves that they since they are merely here, that is a testament to their unbounded love and sacrifice - but then with the 'there there, it will all be over soon and we won't have to deal with our 3D oriented distortions again'.

Who are you referring to, zen? Those 'upset' with the lack of an abrupt event?

Such as this http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2444 .. The general idea is that wanderer's special abilities make them more prone to 'suffering' than most people here (oh, are you an 'empath') regardless of it's pathological underpinnings. And so the coddling, indulgence, and ego support through story telling. Which, if it is to be effective, must and will be projected onto our current circumstances or our potential circumstances.

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Isn't that what spiritual growth is? Would it even be possible for any kind of spiritual growth to occur apart from the noticing and balancing of distortions?

You'd think so. But then there is the appeal to regressive, non-developmental, modes of thought, such as going back to the 'ground of being' as espoused by Tolle and others. Where everyone seems to want to bask in what they refer to as the 'present' while, ironically, simultaneously complaining about unchanging conditions and projecting hopes onto the future which (as Tolle points out) does not exist.