12-28-2012, 11:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2012, 01:44 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
The fact of the matter is that the only physical changes Ra referred to in the material was a cessation of the "inconveniences" and a "quantum leap" following a roughly 30 year period that was stated in 1981, thus giving 2011 as a target time for this to occur.
The overtones of "apotheosis" and "rapture" of the masses, along with "supernatural" powers like telepathy and flying were added later. These have no actual basis in the material.
Even then, the quotes from Session 17 can be interpret differently as has been discussed in detail all over this forum. Even the integrity of the whole of Session 17 has been called into question.
The salient point in fact here is that the word "ascension" does not appear in the material. Anywhere.
As for the "end" of the Mayan calendar connection, this just so happens to have fallen within the roughly 30-year window given in the material.
Some claim that this has something to do with the 25,920 year period constituting the "Great Year" of the precession of the equinoxes, and thus a potential connection can be made here between the roughly 25-26K cycle given in the material, at the end of which harvest occurs.
There are three fundamental problems with this connection:
1. The Mayan calendar measures a period of 13 "baktuns" of 394 years totaling 5125 years. Thus, the Mayan Calendar "began" 5125 years ago, in 3113 BCE, not 25,920 years ago.
2. Even if the Mayan calendar did somehow measure the 25,920-year cycle, as far as we know the alpha/omega point of this cycle selected by the Mayan astrologers would have been arbitrary.
3. Even if it were not arbitrary, and there were some kind of real astrological influence coming into play here, then we must keep "orbs" in mind with astrological interpretations. That means, when talking about a conjunction of some sort that happens every 25,920 years, even if we apply a very tight one degree orb of influence that gives us a +/- of 72 years to see the physical manifestation of such an influence.
The overtones of "apotheosis" and "rapture" of the masses, along with "supernatural" powers like telepathy and flying were added later. These have no actual basis in the material.
Even then, the quotes from Session 17 can be interpret differently as has been discussed in detail all over this forum. Even the integrity of the whole of Session 17 has been called into question.
The salient point in fact here is that the word "ascension" does not appear in the material. Anywhere.
As for the "end" of the Mayan calendar connection, this just so happens to have fallen within the roughly 30-year window given in the material.
Some claim that this has something to do with the 25,920 year period constituting the "Great Year" of the precession of the equinoxes, and thus a potential connection can be made here between the roughly 25-26K cycle given in the material, at the end of which harvest occurs.
There are three fundamental problems with this connection:
1. The Mayan calendar measures a period of 13 "baktuns" of 394 years totaling 5125 years. Thus, the Mayan Calendar "began" 5125 years ago, in 3113 BCE, not 25,920 years ago.
2. Even if the Mayan calendar did somehow measure the 25,920-year cycle, as far as we know the alpha/omega point of this cycle selected by the Mayan astrologers would have been arbitrary.
3. Even if it were not arbitrary, and there were some kind of real astrological influence coming into play here, then we must keep "orbs" in mind with astrological interpretations. That means, when talking about a conjunction of some sort that happens every 25,920 years, even if we apply a very tight one degree orb of influence that gives us a +/- of 72 years to see the physical manifestation of such an influence.