12/21/2012: David Wilcock, Harvest, Ra, New Age Gurus. What does it all mean?

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65.9 Moreover, it must be, in our humble opinion, carefully taken into consideration that any time/space viewing, whether by one of your time/space or by one such as we who view the time/space from a dimension, shall we say, exterior to it will have a quite difficult time expressing time measurement values.

Thank you for this quote, Confused! I had a feeling that it was something like that in regards to Ra's difficulty with measuring our time, but didn't have any quote for that. This one sentence kind of slipped my eye. Thank you!

Guys that is why I actually wonder, that Ra gave a date at all, referring to harvest in 2011?

Thank you for this question, Meerie! I was meaning to dive into this topic myself since the missed big event of the date of Dec 21, proceeded some people sometimes talking poop about Ra, but didn't have time until now.

This is the result of my so far research on what Ra exactly said in regards to Harvest and 2011:

The quote in question here is 17:29. In this session Don and Ra talk about all kind of different things and in the middle of this session, 17, Don asks:

"Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?"

And Ra answers:

"Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest."

What proceeded this question? Did Ra give a date before this Q/A? I had to go back all the way to session 6 (!!) in order to trace where these "30 years" or year 2011 came from.

In Q/A 6:16 Don asks:

"Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?"

And Ra answers:

"Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience."

Then Don asks:

"Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?"

And here is where the first mentioning of these 30 years is:

"Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty, of your years."

What are they talking about here? The inconvenience or disharmonious vibratory complex (!), which has begun several of our years ago, and will continue unabated for a period of approximately 30 of our years.

So in the next Q/A, Don asks:

"Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?"

And Ra's answer:

"Ra: I am Ra. This is so."

And then they start talking about all other kind of stuff all the way until Q/A 17:1 of which I will speak shortly.

In order to be sure, I have not only searched back personally through all the sessions, that this is what proceeded mentioned year of 2011, but also searched lawofone.info with keyword "thirty", which have these results:

Search results for "thirty"

Now, moving on to session 17 where this (only) mentioning of 2011 occurs. What happened there? What are they exactly talking about there? Well, it starts already in the first Q/A, 17:1, where Don asks:

"Questioner: Thank you very much. I would like to say again that we consider it a great honor, privilege, and duty to be able to do this particular work. I would like to reiterate that some of my questions may seem irrelevant at times, but I am trying to ask them in a manner so as to gain a foothold into the application of the Law of One.

We are now in the fourth density. Will the effects of the fourth density increase in the next thirty years? Will we see more changes in our environment and our effect upon our environment?"

To which Ra gives a rather long answer, where I have underlined important to our question parts:

"Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. Your time/space continuum has spiraled your planetary sphere and your, what we would call galaxy, what you call star, into this vibration. This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the in-streaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the Earth will thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you might call it.

This is going to occur with some inconvenience, as we have said before, due to the energies of the thought-forms of your peoples which disturb the orderly constructs of energy pattern within your Earth spirals of energy which increases entropy and unusable heat. This will cause your planetary sphere to have some ruptures in its outer garment while making itself appropriately magnetized for fourth density. This is the planetary adjustment.

You will find a sharp increase in the number of people, as you call mind/body/spirit complexes, whose vibrational potentials include the potential for fourth-vibrational distortions. Thus, there will seem to be, shall we say, a new breed. These are those incarnating for fourth-density work.

There will also be a sharp increase in the short run of negatively oriented or polarized mind/body/spirit complexes and social complexes, due to the polarizing conditions of the sharp delineation between fourth-density characteristics and third-density self-service orientation.

Those who remain in fourth density upon this plane will be of the so-called positive orientation. Many will come from elsewhere, for it would appear that with all of the best efforts of the Confederation, which includes those from your peoples’ inner planes, inner civilizations, and those from other dimensions, the harvest will still be much less than that which this planetary sphere is capable of comfortably supporting in service."

What did Ra actually say here? Firstly, Ra speaks of the planetary adjustment. Then they speak of a sharp increase of what they call a new breed and then negatively polarized entities, and finally they talk about those who will remain upon this sphere, which I interpret as: when the Harvest is complete, those who will remain here, upon this sphere, will be those of positive orientation.

And then Don and Ra talk about bunch of other stuff til the Q/A 17:29 occurs. In this Q/A Don asks:

"Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?"

And Ra answers:

"Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest."

So, there will be inconviences, a sharp increase of positive people and negative people, and then a harvest, and finally those who will remain upon this sphere are those of fourth density positive vibration. Awesome! What is this Harvest then? And what will happen in 2011?

Before I continue, I would just like to draw attention to this 2011 quote again underlying one specific word:

"Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest."

Anywho, now that we know that all is possible/probable and an approximation, we move on to this Harvest.

In many other sources that I have read "Harvest" means ascension, mass landings of aliens and removing of the veil. These are quite drastic and dramatic scenarios considering that there are still people here who are making *the* choice. There is no choice if veil removes. There is no choice if there are mass landings of aliens. There is no choice if there is a massive ascension (whatever that means). What would be the point of having 75'000 years long third density experience if the culmination of it was not making that choice by yourself but something/someone else interfering making that choice for you? So I don't understand how people, knowing the Law of One, can logically consider such thing? But hey, personally I wouldn't mind mass landings of Confederation, veil removing and/or ascension (means to me awesome constant orgasms in higher density) either.

Back to topic and our question. What is the "Harvest"?

Hmpf... This is a difficult one to attempt to define but the only thing here that matters to us, that is important to our question, is that it seems that the Harvest is a time/space event.

It is of course a space/time event in terms of planetary adjustment, transition period and the future experience of fourth density mind/body/spirit complexes, but in regards to what happens to us, third density mind/body complexes, in the time of Harvest, which according to Ra, approximately occurs around year 2011, is, in my understanding and interpretation of the material, something that happens in time/space.

In Q/A 48:7 Ra says: "Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.

Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true-color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true-color locus in space/time and time/space at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined."

To me, the above Q/A, clearly indicates that Ra says that the Harvest of a mind/body/spirit complex occurs only after the so called death of our physical, chemical, body, i.e. in time/space. If someone has a quote where it is stated that the Harvest of a mind/body/spirit complex is a space/time event, then please speak up. But seriously and logically - does anyone really think that the Harvest of us is going to occur while still in this heavy, chemical body complex?

Mind also the second half of the quote in question here in regards to year 2011: "Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest."

The above means that those who are not in incarnation when the Harvest occurs (around year 2011 or so) will nevertheless be subjects to the Harvest, because this Harvest is like striking of a clock upon the hour. That is why Ra gave this (approximate) date. Ra never mentioned mass landings of aliens though, or ascension, or veil removings. However, Ra did mention gradual transition period.

I interpret all that has been said above this far, as: The Harvest will begin approximately around year 2011. This Harvest is a time/space event, which means that all entities who will die after the year 2011 or so, will be subjects to the Harvest regardless of their personal circumstances (Ra, 9:3, 17:29, 48:7.). After this year or so, the transition period will begin, which will go on for 100-700 years (Ra, 40:8). During this transitional period there will be gradual, evolutionary process of body complexes by bisexual reproduction into full fourth density bodies (Ra, 65:25 & 65:27).

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...Matthew Chapter 24 (KJV*) --

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

I liked that! To me it says: no man and "no angel of heaven" can know when the Harvest will be, but the intelligent infinity.