About Social Values-coufused

[Quantum]

I said: Given I have yet developed the aptitude of seeing in the dark, given that I see through a glass dimly even in the light,

You said: What I have learned is that it is much easier to hold a cloud in your mind, than in your hand.

Poetic and profound. Nicely said.

But please continue 3D, allow us to step it down a few notches then, what does a karmic response look like manifested in daily experience for a lessor nasty deed verses no karma at all.

Hmmm. Okay then, let's grope around in dark together, shall we? ... It would seem to me that in a STS entity, these attachments may be quite different than in an STO entity. Let's consider a negatively polarized serial killer. They may be attached to the pain, fear and suffering they cause an otherself. Thus they would be destined to replay the scenario over and over because they are attached to the feelings they experience ...Now you may ask, what about the "victims"? To me, they are either experiencing the results of their own karmic attachments, or a preplanned or random catalyst introduced or allowed by the Higher Self to facilitate or increase polarization. The result of this catalyst may well be karmic attachment, if the catalyst is not processed efficiently and both the self (for allowing the situation to occur) and the other self (for perpetrating the act) are forgiven...Then again, I may be crazy. But it's an interesting thing to think about, anyway.
3D Sunset

Quite a fascinating discussion actually. A bit like having a look at 4d with a 3d mindset, much as in a 3d example of the optical illusion allowing one to often only grasp the fleeting image for a moment just before losing it again. It seems your suggesting the poor lessor lad, being the "Karmic STS Serial Killer", is doomed to repeat the killing as a result of being attached to the killing, verses having turned his higher attention to perhaps something more majestik, such as to controlling more proficiently, thus gaining polarization? Were he to be the more grand, seasoned and proficient STS'er , he would serial kill should he chose to, in order to control, manipulate, dominate, etc, in the effort of gaining polarity by depolarizing the other, or, and here is your key and point, be free to allow himself "not to kill' were he more powerfully able to gracefully simply terrorize mentally instead, by perhaps subjugating the other-self without the thought of killing at all but evoke the sense of same through mental terror and fear alone, were it to depolarize more the other self than the killing act? The lessor STS is simply attached to killing, whether it polarizes or not. The higher STS'er is free to be a truer nastier nasty, a master if you will, and thus able to polarize ever more, either through serial killing, or not serial killing, but never attached to it irrespectively.

The lessor lad of the STS is the much like the anguished serial killer portrayed so oft in the Hollywood version of the pained and tortured soul who can't help himself (trapped in his own hell - karma), whist the Higher Grander Darker STS'er is a truly darker soul who takes not so much delight in the kill as much as the mastery of the depolarization of the other, much like the "Quickening" in "The Highlander" movie, if you will forgive extending the Hollywood analogy (his heaven - karma).

If one is aware by presence alone of an awakened soul serving in the STO, and that it would be hard to miss, according to Ra, then it stands to reason that it may be as hard to miss an awakened STS'er as well? But it equally stands to reason that he may be more elegant at camouflaging his proficiency much like the wolf in sheep's clothing.

Here comes full circle again...where I begin to lose the image of understanding or seeing the optical illusion as it begins to fade yet again: Coming back to repeat the killings as a punitive lesson in karma remains a difficult concept to grasp. It is mind bending experiment to hold it in consciousness, even if but for a moment, and yet perhaps expands understanding of the LOO as an exercise in the exercise of having done so.