(11-24-2012, 08:02 AM)Oceania Wrote: as long as they're treated well the milk is then ethically fine. i can also see milk being used for more alkalising purposes in the form of kefir and yogurt which i love. it seems everyone processes food differently at different times. to me consuming non fermented milk feels wrong at the moment but i still love certain cheeses and will eat them when life throws them in front of me.
Agreed! There's a huge difference between humanely-produced milk and commercial milk. The commercial milk is full of antibiotics, hormones, and other drugs, + the cows are really treated cruelly. I had thought there was less cruelty involved with dairy, but I was wrong. Dairy cows are in pain almost constantly.
But I agree, cows allowed to graze outside and live normal lives, and then humanely milked, there's nothing unethical about that. And yes, fermented milk products are much healthier! Raw milk is healthier too. And not acidifying.
I should have been more clear. My comments were about the commercial dairy products.
(11-24-2012, 08:02 AM)Oceania Wrote: definitely bee keeping in a humane fair way is also wonderful.
I had no idea how badly bees are treated by commercial beekeepers. They use chemicals, and then cut the honey with GMO corn syrup. So whenever we buy 'Grade A' honey it isn't pure honey but a mixture! So I buy only raw, organic honey from local beekeepers, who are doing their part to save the bees.
I actually considered getting a beehive myself, but chickened out. :-/
One of our members, Pablisimo, has bees and just loves them.