11-18-2012, 07:30 PM
(11-14-2012, 04:57 AM)kanonathena Wrote: Therefore experience is only a tool not the purpose.
Question:
1. Does different kind of experience lead to different understanding or merely generate different ways to the same understanding?
Experience is both an action and an understanding based upon one's comprehensive ability and how that is applied to discerning the results of the action.
Because of that requirement of individual capability, every action and discernment of it will be individual. In the environment around each of these actions of experiencing there are many factors which come into play.
For example, a child touches a hot burner and burns it's hand. In every action of this sort there will always be the experience of the burning of the burned hand. But what if one child is alone when it happens, and compare that experience to the one where the child is immediately cared for by the loving touch of its mother?
Experience is not a matter of repetition as you make it sound. It is a matter of interaction and environment factors.
Connection to other fields of process, which are countless.
(11-14-2012, 04:57 AM)kanonathena Wrote: 2. Do we always have to learn something from an experience? Is experience, just for the sake of experiencing, without understanding, beneficial in any way?
This is one of the main problems in the course of evolution of consciousness. Many fields of consciousness make choices which do not further their evolution at the rate which it could be done. That is not to say that there is some expected rate of procession. That is just acknowledging that if opportunities for understanding are unnecessarily missed, than the process of that particular aspect of evolution of The All decelerates. And it can even reach such a point of degradation that it actually does not evolve from its last state of being at all.
The Ancients referred to this as the 'cycle of darkness'.
There are many who would like to play in the sandbox of self gratification forever because they love the flesh and the experiencing of it, and cannot fathom the Mysteries which they may be missing out on, nor do they even care about the potential or the possibilities. All they care about is enjoying the experience of flesh.
(11-14-2012, 04:57 AM)kanonathena Wrote: I take Ra's stand to be one of maximizing opportunity for experience, and to maximize understanding that can be gained from experience. Therefore, to indulge in experience without learning is not advisable, and the information from such experience is not really a fair trade for the understanding which has been lost.
I think there are a great many cases where the understanding of what will be the result of one's particular path is gained, but because of their addiction to self gratification they deliberately choose to ignore their understanding and continue to pursue the same path.
Every junkie knows exactly what they are doing to themselves with each and every dose. It's not a matter of understanding, it's a matter of decision and addiction that cannot be conquered.
This does not mean that there are not many incidences of completely innocent ignorance and incapability to understand. And in those cases it is a matter of the repetition until such a time as such develop the understanding to either move on, or continue to repeat.
So the reason why it would not be advisable or a 'fair trade', is simply because there is a complete lack of evolution, stagnation, which because all are One, affects not only the state of being of the fragment, but The All as well.
They become an anchor dragging behind the one Ship of Procession. The more anchors there, the less the progress into Mystery and Potential.
This is the true dilemma of the state of being of the human as a species which we see manifest across the globe.
Do we sacrifice individual achievement for the sake of community, or do we espouse survival of the most fortunate?
Do we see our life as a species in harmony, or an individual fighting to provide for self despite the species?
I think most of us realize which should hold the highest priority. But far too many either ignore that truth, or deliberately mock it in their lack of harmonic compassion and conscious choice to live in darkness.