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    02-03-2009, 11:19 AM (This post was last modified: 02-03-2009, 11:54 AM by 3D Sunset.)
    Quantum Wrote:To digress for a moment, I believe that the inefficiency of either path comes only into real question at the end of 6th density, when at last the left hand path no longer finds it as efficient to go further into negative polarization due to the inefficiency of that choice. In other words, it becomes as though a dead-end, due to the inertia of that path, and thus the only efficient path left is as though a consolidated and merged choice from that point forward by the STS choice-maker into/onto the right hand path.

    For what it's worth, I believe that in mid sixth density both polarities must give up their potential difference and the resulting path is neither STS or STO, it is at unity... balanced. I believe that it is our prejudice against STS that causes us to view them "coming over to STO". In reality, I think we meet in the middle, which is probably more familiar to STO than STS entities. I think that this is why Ra refers to it as STS becoming STO in order to progress further. Does it not make more sense that purely positive entities need to embrace more of the concept of "self" in order to experience the ultimate melding with the ONE Creator? How, for example will they ever progress in 7th density of they keep feeling the need to go help all these poor schleps wallowing away in 3D all the time. Isn't it a selfish act to abandon them for your own selfish advancement in spirituality?

    Quantum Wrote:"what happened to the karma"(?), where is the balancing for the 'actions taken' to have polarized so far into the negative, 'sometimes' horrific to others - if just a so-so STS'er, and more oft truly ghastly horrific- if a proficient STS'er , e.g. Genghis Khan, and how does karma then even apply to the negative path?

    An excellent question. I think the problem with most people's view of karma, is that they think of it as some cosmic judge who watches actions, then rewards "good" actions and punishes "bad" actions. In my opinion, this is a relic of our many good intentioned, but poorly executed religions.

    I prefer to think of karma as attachment. If you are attached to an action, event, or experience (good or bad) you will bring it back to you. Thus, most people that do "bad" things have at least some sliver of remorse (most often they have significant remorse, especially living in the midst of controlling religions in a sub-logos that is biased toward STO). This remorse is a form of attachment, related to the inability to forgive oneself. Thus, the attachment to the action brings it back. Depending upon the individual's thoughts, beliefs and intents thereof, this replaying could be in any role (aggressor, victim, bystander, etc.). The point is that the attachment is what causes the experience to be repeated. IMHO harvestable STO entities simply have no attachment to their actions, thus no karma is created. Ra stated that even wanderers can get caught in the web of karma, and must stay in 3D until the karma is spent. Thus, I conclude that harvestable 3D STS and STO entities have no karmic attachment to 3D. Yes, taken to its extreme, this means that true sociopaths may not be creating karma at all! Similarly, it means that people strongly attached to their positive actions are creating karma that will cause them to be repeated. Thus, one must "forgive" their good deeds as well as their "trespasses". (Can't wait to hear the feedback on this one.)

    Quantum Wrote:This then makes EVERYTHING Ra teaches, with respect to same, as "EXTREMELY MATERIAL" , verses what Ra meant/means as immaterial, not withstanding that indeed "all we carry in our hearts is all that matters".

    Fair enough, dear friend. I probably overstated my point there in the process of seeking compromise. Still, it seemed that we'd gotten to the point of splitting hairs around Ra's words (tantamount, I think, to arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of pin), so I was asking that we step back and look at the actionable message.

    So, is there protection from the slings and arrows of random catalyst? Yes, I think so, but in my opinion, the protection is in how we view and respond to the event. May there be some steering of us away from such unfortunate situations? I would say, of course! Are not those strongly polarized entities more in touch with their intuitive side? And would not the higher self and myriad of protecting angels (while not dancing on heads of pins, of course) take advantage of this to steer us away from unnecessary danger? And would not these services be equally available to our STS brethren? I think they would.


    Just my rambling thoughts,

    3D Sunset

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    About Social Values-coufused - by qqliudl - 01-31-2009, 04:22 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by ayadew - 01-31-2009, 05:04 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-01-2009, 02:26 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-01-2009, 09:40 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-01-2009, 04:04 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-01-2009, 04:13 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-01-2009, 04:34 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by ayadew - 02-01-2009, 08:11 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by qqliudl - 02-01-2009, 02:04 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-01-2009, 02:19 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-01-2009, 06:01 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-01-2009, 07:01 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by 3D Sunset - 02-02-2009, 11:01 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-02-2009, 01:06 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-02-2009, 01:52 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-01-2009, 07:10 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-01-2009, 08:28 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-01-2009, 11:04 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-01-2009, 11:28 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by 3D Sunset - 02-02-2009, 02:05 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Monica - 02-02-2009, 03:23 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-02-2009, 09:29 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-02-2009, 11:58 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-03-2009, 01:20 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by 3D Sunset - 02-03-2009, 11:19 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-03-2009, 12:13 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by βαθμιαίος - 02-03-2009, 02:17 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by 3D Sunset - 02-03-2009, 04:34 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-04-2009, 10:33 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by 3D Sunset - 02-05-2009, 10:45 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-05-2009, 07:57 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by ayadew - 02-05-2009, 11:22 AM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by qqliudl - 02-05-2009, 05:38 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-06-2009, 10:22 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by 3D Sunset - 02-07-2009, 03:57 PM
    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-08-2009, 05:05 PM
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    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-10-2009, 09:19 PM
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    RE: About Social Values-coufused - by Quantum - 02-10-2009, 02:20 AM
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