Evidence for Psychic Powers

[Ali Quadir]

You guys realize what happens once you "proved" Psychic Powers right ? It's the end of veiled 3d. Veiled 3d completely loses it's usefulness once everyone is fully aware of metaphysics.

Haha, if only.. 500 years ago no one had any doubt about the existence of psychic powers. Veiled 3d didn't stop to exist then either.

[Patrick]

You guys realize what happens once you "proved" Psychic Powers right ? It's the end of veiled 3d. Veiled 3d completely loses it's usefulness once everyone is fully aware of metaphysics.

Haha, if only.. 500 years ago no one had any doubt about the existence of psychic powers. Veiled 3d didn't stop to exist then either.

IMHO there is a big difference in between "having no doubt" (faith) and having a working scientific theory.

Such a theory would yield useful uses of metaphysics right here in space/time.

Like a computer that can access the akashic records.

[3DMonkey]

You guys realize what happens once you "proved" Psychic Powers right ? It's the end of veiled 3d. Veiled 3d completely loses it's usefulness once everyone is fully aware of metaphysics.

Haha, if only.. 500 years ago no one had any doubt about the existence of psychic powers. Veiled 3d didn't stop to exist then either.

IMHO there is a big difference in between "having no doubt" (faith) and having a working scientific theory.

Such a theory would yield useful uses of metaphysics right here in space/time.

Like a computer that can access the akashic records.

I was going to ask "like what?", but then you gave the maximum answer.

I did ask the question already in this thread. I think it was overlooked.

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Seriously, what would it benefit? Would it benefit? Or would it create a black hole?

[AnthroHeart]

Like a computer that can access the akashic records.

In my experience, at a certain vibration, YouTube begins to touch on just that. I've observed that the videos change based on my own vibration. My own higher vibration has access to higher consciousness information when I'm in a higher state. As the veil thins, I think more of this will be realized.

[Ali Quadir]

IMHO there is a big difference in between "having no doubt" (faith) and having a working scientific theory.

I wish I could share your confidence in science. To me both are a faith. One is more systematic than the other and I love science for that. But in the end it just cannot hold all the answers.

In fact, when it comes to actually using psi. I think there's very little you can rationally know that will actually help you. Any semblance of rationality is imposed upon it. In itself there's nothing rational about it.

[Patrick]

You guys realize what happens once you "proved" Psychic Powers right ? It's the end of veiled 3d. Veiled 3d completely loses it's usefulness once everyone is fully aware of metaphysics.

Haha, if only.. 500 years ago no one had any doubt about the existence of psychic powers. Veiled 3d didn't stop to exist then either.

IMHO there is a big difference in between "having no doubt" (faith) and having a working scientific theory.

Such a theory would yield useful uses of metaphysics right here in space/time.

Like a computer that can access the akashic records.

I was going to ask "like what?", but then you gave the maximum answer.

I did ask the question already in this thread. I think it was overlooked.

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Seriously, what would it benefit? Would it benefit? Or would it create a black hole?

My vision of this comes from the book 2150 AD and from Ra saying:

- Metaphysics and Physics are indissociable.

- The transition from 3d to 4d takes about 100 to 700 years.

- Before the Earth can host 3d again, we (4d) need to learn how to make our selves invisible to 3d.


So in this vision, science and technology are part of the transition of a planet from 3d to 4d in SPACE/TIME.

Of course, I am speaking of a science that includes all and not just physics.

Right now, the Elites are doing their best to make sure that "science" remains firmly around physics without metaphysics. This is about to change...

[Parsons]

I just realized something and forgive me if its already been said but I'm not re-reading this entire thread: The LOO or any channeled material require you to telepathically/psychically channel some remote entity.

Thus, if one were to believe in the LOO/any channeled material, it would be a logical fallacy to disbelieve all other psychic effects. Since this is the LOO forums and it would be silly to participate in discussion/arguments if one does not believe in the LOO on a subject like this, which is the cornerstone to believing the LOO isn't faked somehow(which, of course, if one reads the contents, it becomes nearly impossible to be faked). So, do "psychic powers" exist? I call that case closed.

[Patrick]

IMHO as soon as you believe that anything not from physicality exists, then you might as well believe that everything does exist. That's how I see it. Now to choose what information from All That Is that I currently need, I use discernment (intuition).

[Ali Quadir]

Well, in totality, all exists, all possibilities all outcomes. However, not all of this is relevant or even compatible with our selves..

For example a reality in which no individuals can exist is incompatible with our daily experience, it is therefore a theoretical possibility, one we can philosophize about... But it will therefore never be something that exists in our daily experience. There might be other forms of experience accessible to us in which this is a relevant possibility.

So as you can see possibility is compartmentalized in experience, or as some put it: encoded in our lightbody blueprint.

Some experiences can contradict. You can never ever experience not existing in some form. Therefore this presumably is a logical impossibility, that reality where you experience non existence is not going to occur.. Reality that contradicts itself cannot exist. It may appear to contradict when our base assumptions are wrong, but it cannot truly contradict.

Psychic experiences and paranormal research in this regard only research to what degree the psychic can exist relative to us. For some people this actually means it cannot exist. And it's bloody hard to perform magick in any undeniable way around these people. They co-create a world in which magick does not exist. While other people co-create a world in which magick can exist. And with them sometimes the magick almost happens by itself, (or otherwise phrased, works automatically as soon as the other co-creator subconsciously understands what is required to happen)

Take the example of those evangelicals who get together in churches and have all kinds of life altering miracles occur. These things are undeniably real, they have real effects, real consequences. And they say God did it... In reality it's the holy space created by a group coming together who share the same reality frame, a frame in which a personification of God becomes and actually is a tangible reality.

[godwide_void]

I agree and enjoy what you have just stated Ali, but would also wish to point out that merely because certain concepts or possibilities appear impossible in nature in our minds does not deem it so as the human mind holds a vastly limited perception relative to the entirety of the Creation. Theoretical possibilities, philosophizing, any and all concepts we hold are mere metaphors for things and not as they truly are. In this dimension we exist within these are true things but who is to say what particular metaparadigms govern other areas of existence? True, to us there are those experiences which are completely outside the scope of what we may possibly undertake, but this is a circumstantial statement. For instance, we take for granted the experience of 'walking' when there are some who perhaps may no longer be able to experience this. To the handicapped, it is an impossibility, yet it is wholly possible for us. The one known as Jesus allegedly underwent the experience of walking on water which is not something most humans would consider possible.

The concept you postulate of non-existence however is a very intriguing one to ponder. True, we will never experience this, but at the same time we do. "We" in regards to this individualized form we take, does not exist as another form in our eyes. Suspending for a moment the fact that we as the essence of Creator permeate all things, let us consider that the human being is not a pie as a random example. We exist, but at the same time, do not exist as something else. Indeed, before we existed in this form, we did not exist. There are plenty of things which we may say do not exist in our world, but it is perhaps more accurate to say that they are in an unmanifest, unpotentiated form. The possibility and potential for absolutely anything and everything is there. It is a matter of allowing it to become manifest through whatever causes and actions will lead to it.

[godwide_void]

I have decided also that I would directly address the main purpose of the thread as stated in the title by sharing a few experiences which occurred to me about 6-8 weeks ago. These instances were spontaneous and I did not immediately give them much consideration but upon reflective examination I feel that they would be relevant to this subject, although I have yet to undertake further experimentation, but plan to do so very soon.

Earlier on in my school semester I decided that Philosophy class might be the perfect opportunity to test my mettle while having ingested the entheogenic nootropic I have become very familiar with and have utilized for spiritual progression, Tlilitzin, more commonly recognized as Morning Glory seeds, the divine sacraments which the Aztec civilization among many others have held in high regard and acknowledged that within these seeds dwelled the capacity to facilitate the awakening of divinity within a person. I have come to know these seeds well and they are my prime and closest allies in regards to all the "plant teachers" of this world. I hold complete control over the states in which it induces in me, thus allowing for complete and absolute normal functioning throughout my day but with the strong sense that the lower self which normally dwells in this world is eradicated for the duration of the alteration and indeed the Higher Aspect of myself dwells wholly for this time period.

Some time ago I took a fascination to low doses of these seeds as a sort of nootropic not unlike piracetam or other assorted "brain foods". Normally, most individuals have reported that threshold effects are only felt after ingestion of a few hundred seeds. Typically most people retain the mindset that these seeds can "give you a buzz" or are "cheap and natural acid" and intend to view these seeds as passing recreation. I have read reports that shamans would only take as little as 25-50 seeds in order to achieve visionary states. I have come to the understanding that one must honor and acknowledge the divinity contained within these seeds in order for any sort of bond to develop, and one must prove oneself time and time again, with one's intentions being pure or not playing a key role.

So my nootropical dose is a mere spoonful of seeds, 15-25 at most, which should hardly result in anything felt besides mild stomach discomfort, let alone a "trip" in any case. Ingestion occurred 2 hours before class is to start, and I was surprised to find that midway through my train ride to school I felt myself entering a much, much deeper state of meditative stillness and emptiness than normal, partially quelling slight nausea which was remedied by breath control and some water, and noticed that the visual static in my field of vision increased dramatically. I was beginning to arrive within the throes of the initial stages of an entheogenic state of being, from a serving which was ~1/8th of what should normally be taken, and yet felt very much as though I'd taken a dose of 10g worth of seeds. I should also note that in conjunction with the seeds I underwent my normal daily routine of 432hz audial meditation, and a few times I had a small cannabis joint after I stepped out of my house or ingested 2-3 Datura seeds (which, apart from being a deleriant at higher doses but extremely safe at this dosage range, function as both lucid dream aids and, more importantly, psychedelic potentiators, greatly enhancing low doses of psychedelics/entheogens. However for most of my experiments I only included them a few times). These factors served only to enhance.

Now that I have gotten the 'backstory' out of the way, I may go onto the phenomenon which occurred.

My Philosophy class, initially, and still to a considerable degree, did not host too much participation or discussion amongst my fellow peers. What answers were given were short and did not usually 'hit the mark', oftentimes slight tangents which had nothing to do with the question asked nor was the answer a direct correlative one. My primary reason for ingesting the Morning Glory seeds prior to class is so that I would be able to immerse myself much more deeply into it and utilize the mental capabilities the state offers (visualization of concepts, very rapid almost computer-like deconstructive analysis of every word in a sentence, ability to perceive the true intention and meaning behind statements, etc.) so as to better 'philosophize', so to speak. To my delight these all occurred; as soon as the professor finished his question I instantly and intuitively received the answer in my mind, within mere moments of his sentence ending. During his lectures I was able to analyze everything from various angles almost simultaneously and deduced the core meaning behind them. Apart from this, one very important aspect also occurred. I felt my sense of self 'melt', and I perceived my field of consciousness expanding tremendously, recognizing its essence as the 'visual static' I was perceiving. As I felt my field of consciousness engulf the entire room, I noticed that people would look at me in a slightly confused or startled manner.

Here is where it gets interesting for a few reasons: upon receiving the answer in my mind, I did not immediately speak. However, while retaining the answer in my mind, I would glance at someone (our seating arrangement was a circle in which we all faced each other) and fixate my faze upon them for several moments. To my surprise this individual would raise their hand and state the exact answer which I was thinking, albeit with a minute amount of words changed, added or removed, but enough that their statement matched mine about 85%. It should be noted also, that the individual who responded whom I gazed at happened to be one of the few who rarely, if not at all, ever participates. This would happen quite often during the 3-hour period of class and each and every time I went to class in this state (I'd estimate... 5 classes I had ingested Morning Glories for breakfast) this phenomenon occurred.

Another interesting aspect that happened was, many things the professor would say very eerily made reference to something deep within my subconscious, about some aspect of myself or some thought I was or had been thinking. It was as though the professor became an externalized quasi-mouthpiece for my subconscious to voice itself through. I was startled at this and it definitely caused my eyebrow to raise, and I would have went into a paranoid state had I not held the multi-layered understanding that one's reality is a direct reflection of their psyche and all that this entails.

After class had ended I remained in this entheogenic state for well over 8 hours, in which I enjoyed a plethora of synchronicities and instances of much more rapid manifestation of thought, accompanied by extreme clarity, sharp perception, fluctuating instances of time dilation and compression, enhanced fluidity of expressing myself vocally, and the ability to understand the reason for circumstances which befell me in the metaphysical sense throughout the remainder of the day. All this, from a small spoonful of seeds, which acted as consciousness-expanding multivitamins in a sense! I ceased this weekly experiment after 5 or so class sessions as I'd noticed that, having my entire focus on the mental realms in absolute silence, I was not as proficient at oral articulation and would be delayed in my speech or stutter to a slight degree when I did speak.

Do I present this as evidence for psychic powers? No. I only offer this as the recollection of events which consisted of phenomenon pertaining to what one may categorize or regard as "psychic phenomenon". I feign no hypothesis. I may only speculate upon a number of things as to why I received the results I did.

- My field of consciousness expanded to a degree which interpenetrated those of everyone else's, my subconscious linking with theirs, thus allowing for this mental transparency and apparent telepathy.

- Because of the heightened vibrational frequency which the seeds put me at, my consciousness was much more capable of perceiving or linking with the presently and gradually increasing 4D energetic bleedthrough which allowed me to access the capabilities which become available to consciousness at that density, that being telepathy, mental transparency, greater degree of sensing intention, etc.

- The seeds merely allowed me to access the latent abilities which are already present within me but are not consciously utilized or remain functionally dormant for the time being.

Regardless of what the explanation might be, all I know is this: I ate seeds known for generating the divine essence within, I sat in class, I received complete answers split seconds after a question was asked (allowing me no time to ponder it, regardless how complex a query it was), I held the answer in my mind, I would gaze at someone for a few seconds who either never answers or gives a random answer, and they would repeat an answer extremely similar to what I had just thought. This seemed to happen without my acknowledgment of this capability nor my having consciously willed it. It just happened. It is only recently, and partially due to this thread, that I revisited the experience and realized that I'd overlooked this facet of these events and what possible significance they hold.

I hope to repeat this experiment on a much grander scale and with a more stringent methodology, as well as the set and focused intention to reproduce this phenomenon. I wish for this to result in a much more conscious control and understanding of it...

Feel free to dissect, examine and speculate on the aforementioned to your heart's content. Perhaps someone may help me make better sense of this.

[Ashim]

Like a computer that can access the akashic records.

In my experience, at a certain vibration, YouTube begins to touch on just that. I've observed that the videos change based on my own vibration. My own higher vibration has access to higher consciousness information when I'm in a higher state. As the veil thins, I think more of this will be realized.

This is more true than you may imagine.