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    Thread: Wanderers


    BrownEye Away

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    12-01-2011, 02:49 AM
    Ra: I am Ra. These are planetary entities harvested—Wanderers only in the sense that they chose, in fourth-density love, to immediately reincarnate in third density rather than proceeding towards fourth density. This causes them to be Wanderers of a type, Wanderers who have never left the Earth plane because of their free will rather than because of their vibrational level.


    When roaming around I see folks that seem to imply a wanderer is from another planet? My own experiments completely align with what I am finding in the transcripts, which is, any density that chooses to return to a lower density is a "wanderer".
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    12-01-2011, 07:36 AM (This post was last modified: 12-01-2011, 07:37 AM by Namaste.)
    This is only one definition of a wanderer, of the pretext that the entity graduated the harvest and yet returned directly to the previous density to serve.

    In the above quote, Ra's words "Wanderers of a type" highlight this specific context. "Of a type" means "related to". Not the 'full' (as such) definition.

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    12-01-2011, 11:44 AM
    I don't understand our need to give a title and definition to an individual's "status" in the universe. We are all part of the Creator, there is no right or wrong, and we will all continue to cycle through.

    What's the big deal?

    Just wondering.

    Light and love!

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    12-01-2011, 11:48 AM
    (12-01-2011, 11:44 AM)Ruth Wrote: I don't understand our need to give a title and definition to an individual's "status" in the universe. We are all part of the Creator, there is no right or wrong, and we will all continue to cycle through.

    What's the big deal?

    Just wondering.

    Light and love!

    While I entirely agree that labels are linked to the ego, when one is seeking, figuring out they may be/are a Wanderer - here with purpose - can offer huge catalyst for growth, direction and service.
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    #5
    12-01-2011, 11:58 AM
    Thank you, Namaste, that makes some sense to me, catalysts can always be helpful. Thank you!
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    12-01-2011, 12:04 PM
    (12-01-2011, 11:48 AM)Namaste Wrote:
    (12-01-2011, 11:44 AM)Ruth Wrote: I don't understand our need to give a title and definition to an individual's "status" in the universe. We are all part of the Creator, there is no right or wrong, and we will all continue to cycle through.

    What's the big deal?

    Just wondering.

    Light and love!

    While I entirely agree that labels are linked to the ego, when one is seeking, figuring out they may be/are a Wanderer - here with purpose - can offer huge catalyst for growth, direction and service.

    yes, labels are linked to the ego, the solar plexus... but the last time i checked, that was a rightful piece of the whole. taking it to the extreme is a whole other thing tho.

    labeling is derived from, in order to make faster decisions; some things have to be assumed.
    also it (organizing) makes accessing information faster.
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    12-01-2011, 12:09 PM
    (12-01-2011, 07:36 AM)Namaste Wrote: This is only one definition of a wanderer, of the pretext that the entity graduated the harvest and yet returned directly to the previous density to serve.

    In the above quote, Ra's words "Wanderers of a type" highlight this specific context. "Of a type" means "related to". Not the 'full' (as such) definition.

    Oh I understood that, I was just trying to brush off the notion I have seen that an "alien" soul was the only type of wanderer.

    From what I have read the specific description would be any density remaining or returning to help and tutor.

    In order to help explain my viewpoint, I have incarnated at Sirius, Andromeda, and Pleiades, yet am not a wanderer.
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    12-01-2011, 01:02 PM
    (12-01-2011, 12:09 PM)Pickle Wrote: Oh I understood that, I was just trying to brush off the notion I have seen that an "alien" soul was the only type of wanderer.

    From what I have read the specific description would be any density remaining or returning to help and tutor.

    In order to help explain my viewpoint, I have incarnated at Sirius, Andromeda, and Pleiades, yet am not a wanderer.

    Having incarnated in these other systems gives you an ET flavour does it not? :¬)

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    12-01-2011, 01:08 PM (This post was last modified: 12-01-2011, 01:09 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Pickle, how's the energy of Sirius? I had a dream the other day I was touching a glowing and animated picture of Sirius on the wall, and I felt very fond of it. It was a white star in the dream.

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    12-01-2011, 01:53 PM
    (12-01-2011, 01:08 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Pickle, how's the energy of Sirius? I had a dream the other day I was touching a glowing and animated picture of Sirius on the wall, and I felt very fond of it. It was a white star in the dream.

    That sounds like a "family" picture? Type of symbol I assume, of a memory.

    Now and then I will dream a memory. A few were stressful separation dreams where a female left me, floating away out of the trees, while I was stuck solid on the ground. Another was from a different world and I was flying a craft, very small, like I was not even aware of it visually in the dream, only that I using it as recreational fun chasing a falcon. The rush was better than jumping motocross.


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    12-01-2011, 10:19 PM
    (12-01-2011, 11:48 AM)Namaste Wrote: While I entirely agree that labels are linked to the ego, when one is seeking, figuring out they may be/are a Wanderer - here with purpose - can offer huge catalyst for growth, direction and service.

    I agree with this. If one has dreams, feelings, or inclinations that can't be explained, or don't fit, within the parameters of this 3D world, it helps to get some insights.

    I have had dreams my whole life of being on another planet with a "friend" or "friends," looking into a night sky with different constellations, and flying craft buzzing about like cars. (Among other strange--to this world--dreams.)
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    12-02-2011, 06:41 PM
    (12-01-2011, 11:44 AM)Ruth Wrote: I don't understand our need to give a title and definition to an individual's "status" in the universe. We are all part of the Creator, there is no right or wrong, and we will all continue to cycle through.

    What's the big deal?

    Just wondering.

    Hi Ruth,
    Ra also tells us that wanderers are usually disadvantaged regarding the physical instrument. That being mainly because of having already the high chakras open and active and a certain difficulty to anchor their high frequency down here in 3d. A great deal of people tends to be critical and judgmental towards someone having a weak physical vehicle. So, I see Ra's approach of letting the world know about them, rather balancing and helpful to wanderers. This does not imply that non-wanderers are wrong in any way, of course. As you said, we are all part of the Creator. Smile

    (12-01-2011, 12:09 PM)Pickle Wrote: From what I have read the specific description would be any density remaining or returning to help and tutor.

    In order to help explain my viewpoint, I have incarnated at Sirius, Andromeda, and Pleiades, yet am not a wanderer.

    Correct, because a wanderer is defined by coming from a higher density and in your case, you may have done your 3d or even, your 2d cycles over there... That's very interesting!
    Welcome to Earth brother! Smile

    Much Love and Light
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    12-03-2011, 01:10 AM
    I always wonder, wanderer or not.. would you carry yourself any differently?
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    12-06-2011, 09:30 PM
    I like to think of every piece of the Creator since the beginning of Creation as being Wanderers, wandering about the universe until all parts return in the Grand Reunion.

    Whatever you call yourself or decide you are, all leads to Unity. Love to All.

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    12-06-2011, 09:55 PM
    Quote:12.26 Questioner: You spoke of Wanderers. Who are Wanderers? Where do they come from?

    Ra: I am Ra. Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity. When a social memory complex has achieved its complete understanding of its desire, it may conclude that its desire is service to others with the distortion towards reaching their hand, figuratively, to any entities who call for aid. These entities whom you may call the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow move toward this calling of sorrow. These entities are from all reaches of the infinite creation and are bound together by the desire to serve in this distortion.


    12.28 Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? Or what density do they come from?

    Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom of which it had incarnated to avert the destruction.


    12.30 Questioner: Do many of these Wanderers have physical ailments in this third-density situation?

    Ra: I am Ra. Due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, Wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe. The most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them.

    Heart:idea:
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    12-07-2011, 08:20 AM
    i want more info on these handicaps.

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    12-08-2011, 08:10 AM
    These handicaps are all related to the three lower chakras, the red ray, orange ray and yellow ray.

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    12-08-2011, 10:56 AM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2011, 12:04 PM by Liet.)
    knowing i'm related to this phenomenom "wanderer" i've asked for information about where i came from.
    the answer came in form of the number 492 (awokened the very same day(night), by an angelic figure at 4:44 saying my name in my head twice then dissapearing before i could say a word... i knew i had to go numerological on it, so 24+24+444=492)
    me, having spent shitloads of time mapping the spectrum know that this number, read as a frequency equals the lowest point on the body "where energies enter the body" (the feet)...
    "ones connection to where it all began".
    and ofc; my root has ben the strongest chakra throughout my life (part of what it does is slow but thorough analyzation (as opposed to fast but shallow analyzing by the plexus and "non analyzing" by the upper spectrum)), the chakras other than my root and heart have come and gone, and i have rather well, analyzed my personality/philosophy/abilities etz changes along with that....

    its really sad that most new-age information sources shun upon the lower three, underselling them so fkn badly.
    imo beginning of the spectrum is of 100% importance, then declining steadily down to ~75% by the end of it.

    about the bodily disadvantages for the "upper spectrum only" people:
    shitty root means u (and ur body) cant recover (renew) easily.
    shitty plexus means u (and ur body) break by the slightest pressure.

    curing a common misconception; the root chakra is closer to femenine than maskuline, in that if its developed it becomes one with the heart chakra.
    yellow and yellow/orange is the posterboard "maskuline"
    green and lightblue, the "femenine"
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    12-08-2011, 01:22 PM
    ok so personality disorders manifest by imbalance of the lower chakras? or what? what personality disorders?

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    12-08-2011, 02:18 PM
    (12-08-2011, 10:56 AM)Liet Wrote: its really sad that most new-age information sources shun upon the lower three, underselling them so fkn badly.

    I agree with this. The idea that we are only spiritual beings, and the body is just a set of clothes we discard, is an imbalanced perspective in my estimation. We have bodies in this life; they are part of our whole being (at least for now), so just as important as anything else--just as a cell is as important as the body, as without the cell(s) the body doesn't exist.

    To me, all the chakras are important and meant to be in synergy and balance with each other, working as a whole with our whole beingness.

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    12-08-2011, 02:42 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2011, 02:43 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (12-02-2011, 06:41 PM)Whitefeather Wrote: Hi Ruth,
    Ra also tells us that wanderers are usually disadvantaged regarding the physical instrument. That being mainly because of having already the high chakras open and active and a certain difficulty to anchor their high frequency down here in 3d. A great deal of people tends to be critical and judgmental towards someone having a weak physical vehicle. So, I see Ra's approach of letting the world know about them, rather balancing and helpful to wanderers. This does not imply that non-wanderers are wrong in any way, of course. As you said, we are all part of the Creator. Smile

    I haven't been so disadvantaged physically, but more mentally. Sometimes my mind is at odds with the archetypal mind it seems. I've had a couple of mental breaks over the last year, typically revolving around losing control of my mind. I can't seem to keep it from expanding. I do feel like I'm a wanderer. Earth at times just feels so foreign, even now more than ever. I've been itching to move on, though I have a deep love of life.

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    12-08-2011, 04:57 PM
    (12-08-2011, 01:22 PM)Oceania Wrote: ok so personality disorders manifest by imbalance of the lower chakras? or what? what personality disorders?
    each chakra bring about a set of feats unto your personality depending on how well they are doing individualy and in relation to the others...

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