Why Steve Jobs died

[Phoenix]

I tend to think Pancreatic issues. Diabetes etc. Is something to do with respecting the body and the 'sweetness' of life.

[Meerie]

Interesting you mention that. The pancreas is in the center of the body. I hear he was into zen, maybe he unconsciously tried to strenghten his center?
Zen-ter?

[Oceania]

MAC IS A PERSONAL COMPUTER!

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oh my fritters. Uni, i am SAYING that they LED TO MACHINES THAT USE THE INTERNET. AND THAT LED TO SOCIAL NETWORKING. NGAHAQHAQHAHAH MY VULCAN MIND IS MELTING!!!

[3DMonkey]

That is not a Vulcan expletive. They took that from Pleiadians during the crusades of 15,000 years ago. You are wrong again.

[Oceania]

thanks Dwight.

[Wander-Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysCOyAwwtkc

[unity100]

MAC IS A PERSONAL COMPUTER!

i had had accommodated you, saying that 'in case you meant computers that people use personally', havent i.

oh my fritters. Uni, i am SAYING that they LED TO MACHINES THAT USE THE INTERNET. AND THAT LED TO SOCIAL NETWORKING. NGAHAQHAQHAHAH MY VULCAN MIND IS MELTING!!!

and what does that mean ? steve jobs invented 'computers that people personally use' ?

steve jobs did not invent personal computers as in 'computers people use personally'. nor did he had any major impact on how those evolved. all of the technologies were there and used widely before he ascended into apple again in 1997 september. this includes the mouse, this includes user-friendly oses, this includes anything you can name. period.

excuse me but you dont know enough on this matter. why not take some time to read the links i conveniently provided you, in order to learn about the computer history you are talking about in such uninformed fashion ?

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below is the history of the personal computer as in 'computers that people use personally'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer

Early personal computers — generally called microcomputers — were sold often in kit form and in limited volumes, and were of interest mostly to hobbyists and technicians. Minimal programming was done with toggle switches to enter instructions, and output was provided by front panel lamps. Practical use required adding peripherals such as keyboards, computer displays, disk drives, and printers. Micral N was the earliest commercial, non-kit microcomputer based on a microprocessor, the Intel 8008. It was built starting in 1972 and about 90,000 units were sold. In 1976 Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak sold the Apple I computer circuit board, which was fully prepared and contained about 30 chips. The first successfully mass marketed personal computer was the Commodore PET introduced in January 1977. It was soon followed by the Apple II (usually referred to as the "Apple ][") in June 1977, and the TRS-80 from Radio Shack in November 1977. Mass-market ready-assembled computers allowed a wider range of people to use computers, focusing more on software applications and less on development of the processor hardware.

Through the late 1970s and into the 1980s, computers were further developed for household use, with software for personal productivity, programming and games. One such machine, the Commodore 64, totaled 17 million units sold, making it the best-selling single personal computer model of all time.[4] Somewhat larger and more expensive systems (although still low-cost compared with minicomputers and mainframes) were aimed at office and small business use. Workstations are characterized by high-performance processors and graphics displays, with large local disk storage, networking capability, and running under a multitasking operating system.
IBM 5150 as of 1981

Eventually, due to the influence of the IBM PC on the personal computer market, personal computers and home computers lost any technical distinction. Business computers acquired color graphics capability and sound, and home computers and game systems users used the same processors and operating systems as office workers. Mass-market computers had graphics capabilities and memory comparable to dedicated workstations of a few years before. Even local area networking, originally a way to allow business computers to share expensive mass storage and peripherals, became a standard feature of personal computers used at home.
In 1982 "The Computer" was named Machine of the Year by Time Magazine

the computer that brought computing to homes was commodore 64. apple was just another kit being sold back in 1970s, and then one of the hundreds then. it was not different than other kits in its variance, and used the same principles the others used. jobs or wozniak have no more input in evolution of computers, than not only the hundreds of others who sold computer kits, but also tens of thousands of other tech people who made technology and shaped computers, and actually early internet, through the BBSes. jobs/wozniak/apple actually doesnt need any mention in this wikipedia article than hundreds of other kits, but it is wikipedia, impossible to prevent the extremely popular cultural conditionings from leaking in.

back in early 1980s ibm pc compatible format merged the home computer - personal computer format. this was 16 years before steve jobs returned to apple after getting kicked back, and starting with the apple cult personality thing which caused you to be so misinformed about history.

[apeiron]

You are an intelligent person Unity, I do not believe (and I could be projecting here) that you have missed both my own, and Steve's notions. If you wish to ignore, or step around said messages, by all means do.

Peace :¬)

i did not miss anyone's notions.

i just not only dont agree, but also do not understand the forced fakery of making a person who is wrong in something feel as if s/he is not wrong, and then underhandedly telling them that they are wrong, for purposes of being politically correct or polite. if some bit of information is wrong, you just state that it is wrong. its as simple as that.

thats something i have only seen in american contemporary culture. i didnt see it in german, japanese, greek, japanese, italian cultures and many others. leave aside my culture. one of the most polite ways of rejecting what someone else says, is actually saying 'you are wrong' here, as long as plural is used. if the person is in an informal setting, you can use singular even.

some languages like japanese dont even have words to effect that fakery. you directly say that the person is wrong, or in actually many cases, you say just one word.

there is nothing rude about telling someone 'you are wrong'. i dont even understand americans' fixation with this.

The fact you feel you have to fake such feelings is a rather interesting statement.

Emotions are the language of the universe (this density). Thoughtfulness, kindess and compassion (and indeed all aspects of love) transcend language, race, creed, sex, culture and language. A genuine smile from one to another needs no symbols, language or concepts.

One does not act with kindness to another as fakery or underhandedness. They do so as that's because who they are. A loving person will act lovingly, and that will reflect onto another person regardless of race or language.

Edit: for those who enjoy number synchronicities - posted at 11:11 :¬)

I'll post the link again about the chinese "maquiladoras" and number of suicides, working conditions to build that cute ipod or iphone "5" many are salivating for:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-iPod.html

just how are you going to be "positive" explaining your point to those chinese workers (?).

[Oceania]

this is turning hilarious. this is exactly the kind of debate i wanted to avoid. of course it's not a debate because i am so wrong.



Unity, i did not say Steve invented the personal computer. he developed and built a personal computer and he was a big part of popularizing the personal computer so that any moron can use it. in those days noone had one ecxept people who worked with computers. if i am wrong so be it. also, he was the one who introduced beautiful fonts and other art aspects to computing. something i take great pleasure in. he was an artist soul and a computer geek. the marriage of such aspects makes for something impactful.

[Meerie]

R.I.P. Steve. Your Job is done.
Lol I figure Steve as a ghost, wandering around, coming across this thread and reading what we have to say about him. (it has not been so long since he passed away, has it? maybe he is still erring around, unconscious that he is dead, trying to make contact)
STEVE!!!!! everything is okay. You just follow the bright light and you will be fine.
(it pays off to have watched "ghost whisperer", apparently)

[Oceania]

i just don't get why Unity finds fault in my appreciating Steve, and his contributions. even if someone is flawed, we're not supposed to love them and appreciate them?

[unity100]

Some arguments aren't worth it. For example, arguing over who made a computer at the cost of...disharmony. In this case, winning is extremely over-priced. You got jipped.

what 'win'. there is no win here. maybe you should spend more time in understanding and considering what others are actually saying, rather than jumping into premade conclusions out of various biases regarding compassion and harmony and whatnot :

i just don't get why Unity finds fault in my appreciating Steve, and his contributions. even if someone is flawed, we're not supposed to love them and appreciate them?

you were not appreciating steve, and his contributions. you were appreciating the contributions he has not made, attributed to him by misinformed enthusiasts of his company and devices, which was going to the extreme end of crediting the persona of this entity with effectively materializing internet as we know it, and even more, some revolution movements in around middle east. while the actual people who practically 'made' internet, are still alive.

crediting of accomplishments that does not belong to the actual entity, is, in case you have forgot, how polarization works in negative 4th, 5th, and 6th dimensions as per what Ra material tells us. it is possible to have forgotten that, but it is rather curious as to how someone does not understand that extreme personality cult and magnification and deification of an entity's persona and participating in this, is a negative format.

actually this is anyone's choice. however, other people who know what is what, especially people who are working in information technology like me, are not mandated to sit and wait while misinformation that is totally untrue is being propagated around, and defended and asserted so strongly like you did.

had you come up and said that steve jobs had had created trendy, cool gadgets with a measure of user friendliness which some people like very much, and actually extremely much, i would just agree. had you come up and said that, steve jobs was a major figure in computer industry, i would agree. had you come up and said that steve jobs had had made a mark in the popular culture of contemporary times, i would still agree.

but, when you come up and say that steve jobs made internet, or personal computers as we know it, or popularized computers or internet, and assert it so strongly, there is no way to not explain the wrongness of those assertions and argue against your proposition.

[Oceania]

because i worded it differently than you are able to understand, you think i'm wrong? and acting all dr evil? mmhmm.

[unity100]

because i worded it differently than you are able to understand, you think i'm wrong? and acting all dr evil? mmhmm.

you didnt word it differently. first, you credited jobs with making internet what it is, then proceeded to thank him for making personal computers, then you switched to saying you didnt meant personal computer but computers people use personally.

all of those were incorrect. i explained them all, with lengthy posts and references and historical information.

[BlatzAdict]

umm apparently jobs created the notion of fonts..
before that all we had was the same text on computers.
sooo yes he did help make computers in general more accessible.

[BrownEye]

popularizing the personal computer so that any moron can use it.

They have a long ways to go. Ever try showing a newb how to use a computer? After all these years they are not moron proof.

[BrownEye]

The Pancreas can be either exhausted from over stimulation of insulin and enzymes from a grain-based, cooked food (or typical) diet, and/or holding on to emotions of ‘loss’

[Meerie]

According to Wiki he was a vegan. No idea if he was raw vegan, though.

[yossarian]

It's pretty amazing how much scientific support there is that links anger to cancer. Everytime I see more data on the link I think of Ra.

I really does sound like Steve Jobs' anger was his Achilles heel. He was a Zen Buddhist so no doubt he had a ton of consciously realized spiritual power. But he chose to generate anger, probably because he believed it was necessary to get results. It's an archetypal lesson for us all, and a curious question: would he have been able to motivate and curate such well designed products without using his anger as a tool to control the business world?

I'll miss Steve, because he cared about one thing above all others: making a great product. When he said he would die to defeat Android, maybe he meant that he was willing to die to make the iPhone a really outstanding product. Because if that is what he meant it sounds like that's exactly what happened. He sacrificed his health by generating anger which he used to control the business world to get these products made.

[Namaste]

There is some very interesting research, which I discovered via David Wilcock, about the coherence of light that DNA emits being key to a proper functioning body.

DNA with a less coherent light structure was prone to cancer and degeneration. This also links to the UV spectrum, I think the optimum was 980 or something (whatever the value is itself, it doesn't really matter).

Cancerous cells treated, by laser carrying the healthy light coherence/UV value, self healed.

I would imagine this UV level/coherence is brought about by ones emotional/mental state. Hence, anger, one of the slowest vibrating forms of emotion, cause a less coherent body (light-wise - UV), resulting in the inability of cells to regenerate and function optimally.

Another researcher found that the emotional state of gratitude was the key to cells healing themselves.

Makes sense, really. Many spiritual traditions mention to heal the self by the mantra: Thank you for my healing. When said/thought with a genuine resonance - i.e. you truly believe your bosy is of cosmic origon and the intelligence that creates it can also heal it - it becomes the key to regeneration.

Worked for me :¬)

[Oceania]

that's interesting about the pancreas. what does the pancreas do? and what chakra is it related to?

[BrownEye]

Sacral chakra, all I know is that it regulates insulin. If your back is out of whack and you have a rib pushing on an organ causing inflammation, and that puts pressure on your pancreas, you end up with diabetes.

[Tenet Nosce]

I recently read the book "Hackers" which discusses some of these issues, and in particular Jobs' words and actions regarding his personal belief system. It was the version from 1984, which was well berfore the Internet. I understand there are newer versions out now.

Steve Jobs (along with Bill Gates) both felt a very strong need to protect their work from what they perceived to be "harm" in the hands of others. These patterns were set up long before the big profits of the tech bubble began to roll in.

I have found that sometimes anger is born out of love in the sense that it is employed by those who feel it is necessary to act as the protector of others selves and/or ideals. There are many such as Jobs and Gates who feel that it is appropriate to employ "intellectual property rights" and "proprietary hardware" to restrict the actions of others.

Given this perspective, I can see how the persistent "disrespect" of the hackers toward their wishes could have resulted in great anger, and eventually manifested as cancer.

I can also see how, in the hacker mentality, information should be free and not "possessed" by others. To this mindset, a person's mind is not unlike a terminal attached to a mainframe, or as a single node in the Internet. It doesn't make much sense to talk about "my information" and "your information" because it flies in the face of spiritual reality.

In my opinion, Steve Jobs performed a great service by developing products that actually worked as they were intended, which is more than I can say for Gates and Microsoft. However- I am in favor of information sharing and choose to use open source software whenever possible. I made an attempt to run solely on Unix a few years back and it didn't work out so well. Maybe it is time to give it another attempt.

[Oceania]

i'm not for or against information sharing. i use youtube but i don't torrent. i probably would torrent if it was legal or at least if i knew i wouldn't be arrested. but i think Steve was protective because he wanted to make a good product. he was like a papa bear. Bill didn't care that much about quality, no. and yeah that kind of anger is borne out of love but what anger isn't? what reason is there other than protecting what you love? why else be angry?

[3DMonkey]

Very nice, Tenet.

It brings to mind that Jobs wanted to make a great product. Yes, we live in a world where patents hold judicial power. I hate that. Jobs got "beat" by that fact early on. The game taught the player how to play. It is not much different than the organic farming trying their hardest to bring a "great product" to the consumer. It's a passion, and they can't not play the game. At the same time, they must "control" their method, even to the poInt of filing suit against overspray* from nearby farms.

[native]

In my opinion, Steve Jobs performed a great service by developing products that actually worked as they were intended, which is more than I can say for Gates and Microsoft.

I don't know man. I read a great article about Jobs and his lack of charity but I can't find it. Gates is a philanthropist, whereas there is supposedly no record of Jobs having given away a dime of his own billions. When Apple almost failed as a company, Jobs closed all charity programs (understandable), yet when the company started to boom he had no desire to reopen them. There's this article I found though http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/t...ic-giving/

"But over all, Apple has been one of “America’s least philanthropic companies,” as termed by Stanford Social Innovation Review, a magazine about the nonprofit sector, in 2007."

[3DMonkey]

I wonder how much the negative energy from the collective played a part in his cancer distortion.

Geez

[luuchie]

source is here: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/3...al-sister/

last paragraph is beautiful. i hope when i go i can be surrounded my loved ones. I can only imagine the what he saw.
Simpson (his sister) remembered his final moment, with Jobs glancing toward his family. “Before embarking, he’d looked at his sister Patty, then for a long time at his children, then at his life’s partner, Laurene, and then over their shoulders past them,” she recalled. “Steve’s final words were, Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/3...z1cN9gbcJp

[Namaste]

No one ever dies alone :¬)

I would guess he's seeing his spirit guides, they come to comfort in the final moments.

[BrownEye]

No one ever dies alone :¬)

I would guess he's seeing his spirit guides, they come to comfort in the final moments.

I think it is possible to become lost for a period. This might be described as falling off the steps.

Seeing his real family appear may not have been the same entities as specialty guides.