are you ready for harvest right NOW?

[Oceania]

i'm not ready for harvest.

[Odinn]

i'm not ready for harvest.

yes, you are (but you don't know :-)

[AnthroHeart]

Ra said that we are already well on our way of polarization of the choice before we are aware of it, though I can't find the quote.

[Edinburgh]

i'm not ready for harvest.

There are no mistakes. Ready or not, you are as you are.

[Meerie]

i'm not ready for harvest.

If you learn french you will be.

[Odinn]

i'm not ready for harvest.

If you learn french you will be.

hahahah Can you imagine a harvest in French???

- Aha aha, excusez-moi, oú allez vous? :@
- Mais comment qu'oú allez vous??? Je viens au "Harvest" evidement! :-/
- Ah, bon, laissez-moi voir... Non, vous n'êtes pas 4éme dimension. De l'autre côte, s'il vous plaît.
- Mais comment... Je ne comprend pas...
- Mais oui, vous êtes venu de la 5éme dimension et alors c'est lá que vous devrez y retourner. :idea:
- Ah, merci bien!

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i'm not ready for harvest.

If you learn french you will be.

OR you can speak Dreamtongue, Oceania!

[Meerie]

A harvest with croissants and café au lait. Why not?
(ahem Odinn, I think we should switch to "embrasseurs d'arbres" thread. Derailing alert! Code red!)

[Odinn]

A harvest with croissants and café au lait. Why not?
(ahem Odinn, I think we should switch to "embrasseurs d'arbres" thread. Derailing alert! Code red!)

(copy that. thanx for the reminder :-)

and apologies, if bugging around here :-(

[Oceania]

i meant i'm not ready for upgrade harvest Edinburgh. i wish i was you guys. do you think still craving lower density yummies is a sign? like i dunno if i could give up pizza and beer. i'm just being honest. i can go months off that stuff but in the end i always go back somehow. what does it mean to be ready? how do hyou know?

[Edinburgh]

"In NDE after DNE [the beings of light] stress two things. One is the importance of love. Over and over they repeat this message, that we must learn to replace anger with love, learn to forgive and love everyone unconditionally, and learn that we in turn are loved. This appears to be the only moral criterion the beings use. Even sexual activity ceases to possess the moral stigma awe humans are so fond of attaching to it. [...] It appears that in the minds of the beings of light, compassion is the barometer of grace, and time and time again when NDErs wonder if some act they committed was right or wrong, the beings counter their inquiries only with a question: Did you do it out of love? Was the motivation love?

"That is why we have being placed here on earth, say the beings, to learn that love is the key. They acknowledge that it is a difficult undertaking, but intimate that it is crucial to both our biological and spiritual existence in ways that we have perhaps not even begun to fathom. Even children return from the near-death realm with this message firmly impressed in their thoughts. States one little boy who after being hit by a car was guided into the world beyond by two people in 'very white' robes: 'What I learned there is that the more important thing is loving while you are alive'.

Thanks for that quote Odinn - I can say that my experience was the same, in terms of the message I received. Not so much 'beings of light' in my experience, but rather lots of voices. And the thought, again and again, that everything came back to love. I tried thinking about "this", it came back to love. I tried thinking of "that", it came back to love. I tried to think about things that I found hard to do or deal with, i.e. people or 'problems' I thought I had ... everything came back to love. Even the 'bad' stuff came back to love. Love was all there was.

That's why in the end I felt the whole Aya experience was valid. The things I saw and felt were mirrored by people describing thier NDE experiences. So there MUST be some validity to what everyone experiences.

i meant i'm not ready for upgrade harvest Edinburgh. i wish i was you guys. do you think still craving lower density yummies is a sign? like i dunno if i could give up pizza and beer. i'm just being honest. i can go months off that stuff but in the end i always go back somehow. what does it mean to be ready? how do hyou know?

It doesn't matter Oceania. Don't worry about it. Just be as you are. Crave and eat, if you want. I don't think anyone can tell anyone else who's ready and who's not. Do what you feel is right in any situation and you will be OK (as long as your not harming anyone). In the end, we all 'make the grade', if not this time round, then next. The whole process is all about progression, its a process, not a 'end-point'. See the quote Odinn wrote to get an idea of what I mean ...

" ... Others are prodded with statements such as 'learning is a continuous process and goes on even after death' and 'knowledge is one of the few things you will be able to take with you after you have died'". (pp. 250-251)

[kycahi]

do you think still craving lower density yummies is a sign? like i dunno if i could give up pizza and beer. i'm just being honest. i can go months off that stuff but in the end i always go back somehow. what does it mean to be ready? how do hyou know?

Well, I got my letter about five months ago. It was green with my full name and address, but no stamp or postmark. It was heavy, but that was mostly due to the FAQ pamphlet. It began, "Dear L: This is to inform you that you have qualified for Fourth Density Harvest. After completing your current third density life, you will ascend the light beam up to the Green Level, where many of your closest friends will escort you to the Processing Department. Be sure to give pre-approval code AM3QT4D. Without this express code, processing into the Fourth Density will take up to three years for Akashic verification."

Last week I got an email message that said I can assure express 4D processing even if I forget the pre-approval code by sending an American Express money order to some address in Nigeria. I decided to do that because these days I can't always trust my memory.

I just flipped through the pamphlet and found, on page 29, "Q: Will I be able to enjoy pizza? Beer? A: Yes! They will taste better than they do in third density and will not cause you to gain weight."

That should mean that you are good to go, Ocean! If I'm ahead of you, I'll be among your friends at the 4D gate.

[Oceania]

i wish

[Edinburgh]

do you think still craving lower density yummies is a sign? like i dunno if i could give up pizza and beer. i'm just being honest. i can go months off that stuff but in the end i always go back somehow. what does it mean to be ready? how do hyou know?

Well, I got my letter about five months ago. It was green with my full name and address, but no stamp or postmark. It was heavy, but that was mostly due to the FAQ pamphlet. It began, "Dear L: This is to inform you that you have qualified for Fourth Density Harvest. After completing your current third density life, you will ascend the light beam up to the Green Level, where many of your closest friends will escort you to the Processing Department. Be sure to give pre-approval code AM3QT4D. Without this express code, processing into the Fourth Density will take up to three years for Akashic verification."

Last week I got an email message that said I can assure express 4D processing even if I forget the pre-approval code by sending an American Express money order to some address in Nigeria. I decided to do that because these days I can't always trust my memory.

I just flipped through the pamphlet and found, on page 29, "Q: Will I be able to enjoy pizza? Beer? A: Yes! They will taste better than they do in third density and will not cause you to gain weight."

That should mean that you are good to go, Ocean! If I'm ahead of you, I'll be among your friends at the 4D gate.

Brilliant! really funny!!

[Ruth]

I am so relieved about the pizza and beer!
Love and light!

[Odinn]

Thanks for that quote Odinn - I can say that my experience was the same, in terms of the message I received. Not so much 'beings of light' in my experience, but rather lots of voices. And the thought, again and again, that everything came back to love. I tried thinking about "this", it came back to love. I tried thinking of "that", it came back to love. I tried to think about things that I found hard to do or deal with, i.e. people or 'problems' I thought I had ... everything came back to love. Even the 'bad' stuff came back to love. Love was all there was.

That's why in the end I felt the whole Aya experience was valid. The things I saw and felt were mirrored by people describing thier NDE experiences. So there MUST be some validity to what everyone experiences.

I've never experienced something like that, a ND situation (the closest one I knew of was in my family). What amazed me at first (and served me later as a clear confirmation) was how hundreds of very different people talk about in exactly the same way (putting aside cultural/behavioral/learned details, such as open fields or light tunnels). the feeling of deep love and peacefulness.

That has been since a "proof" that real rules and real goals and real "reasons" are much more different than what we learn and we think we know "down here".

Thanks for your comments, Edinburgh :-)

[3DMonkey]

Thanks for that quote Odinn - I can say that my experience was the same, in terms of the message I received. Not so much 'beings of light' in my experience, but rather lots of voices. And the thought, again and again, that everything came back to love. I tried thinking about "this", it came back to love. I tried thinking of "that", it came back to love. I tried to think about things that I found hard to do or deal with, i.e. people or 'problems' I thought I had ... everything came back to love. Even the 'bad' stuff came back to love. Love was all there was.

That's why in the end I felt the whole Aya experience was valid. The things I saw and felt were mirrored by people describing thier NDE experiences. So there MUST be some validity to what everyone experiences.

I've never experienced something like that, a ND situation (the closest one I knew of was in my family). What amazed me at first (and served me later as a clear confirmation) was how hundreds of very different people talk about in exactly the same way (putting aside cultural/behavioral/learned details, such as open fields or light tunnels). the feeling of deep love and peacefulness.

That has been since a "proof" that real rules and real goals and real "reasons" are much more different than what we learn and we think we know "down here".

Thanks for your comments, Edinburgh :-)

After years of sharing your same sentiments on the subject, I have since developed the opinion that it is typical expression of the archetypal mind. In other words, they are all similar because they are all human. Like, we have two arms, generally. So, too, we feel "peace" when we "die". I don't think it has any further meaning. Anymore.

[Edinburgh]

Thanks for that quote Odinn - I can say that my experience was the same, in terms of the message I received. Not so much 'beings of light' in my experience, but rather lots of voices. And the thought, again and again, that everything came back to love. I tried thinking about "this", it came back to love. I tried thinking of "that", it came back to love. I tried to think about things that I found hard to do or deal with, i.e. people or 'problems' I thought I had ... everything came back to love. Even the 'bad' stuff came back to love. Love was all there was.

That's why in the end I felt the whole Aya experience was valid. The things I saw and felt were mirrored by people describing thier NDE experiences. So there MUST be some validity to what everyone experiences.

I've never experienced something like that, a ND situation (the closest one I knew of was in my family). What amazed me at first (and served me later as a clear confirmation) was how hundreds of very different people talk about in exactly the same way (putting aside cultural/behavioral/learned details, such as open fields or light tunnels). the feeling of deep love and peacefulness.

That has been since a "proof" that real rules and real goals and real "reasons" are much more different than what we learn and we think we know "down here".

Thanks for your comments, Edinburgh :-)

You are welcome Odinn. Actually your posting of the material by Michael Talbot, you sent me off on a completely different new research direction!!

This is how the thought process went ...

Due to comments made by Unity100, and other friends on Bring4th, I've been doing some thinking. Not everyone is prepared to use ayahuasca to enter a out of body state. I started looking for other ways, without using medicines/ drugs/ or extreme fasting. There's a lot of worry about what might happen, using aya. Finding a shaman at short notice is not a possibility either, for most people living in the modern world.

I then watched a documentary recently called 'spirit space' - in it they describe the work of a group of scientists, including work of a declassified US army program, that explored entering such out of body experiences, using SOUND, it's called the hemi-sync program. The work was pioneered by Robert Monroe of the Monroe Institute (http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/)

Apparently, the good folks at the army did hundreds of these out of body experiences and all through sound activation. The man in-charge eventually left and became the head of the Monroe Institute. The 'spirit space' documentary talks about their findings: Apparently, the universe is a hologram, constructed with special mathematics. The same maths is used in our brains operation; so our brains work like a hologram. Michael Talbot explains the whole thing succinctly on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiwsmf4uS7E&feature=related).

So, hemi-sync works by balancing the left and right brain, so our 'hologram' brain can tune into the hologram universe - accessing akashic records, group mind, other levels of reality, etc. I think I'd like to meet those 'angels of light' and learn more about love, from the source of it all!

[Odinn]

You are welcome Odinn. Actually your posting of the material by Michael Talbot, you sent me off on a completely different new research direction!!

This is how the thought process went ...

Due to comments made by Unity100, and other friends on Bring4th, I've been doing some thinking. Not everyone is prepared to use ayahuasca to enter a out of body state. I stated looking for other ways, without using medicines/ drugs/ or extreme fasting. There's a lot of worry about what might happen. Finding a shaman at short notice is not a possibility either, for most people living in the modern world.

I then watched a documentary recently called 'spirit space' - in it they describe the work of a group of scientists, including work of a declassified US army program, that explored entering such out of body experiences, using SOUND, it's called the hemi-sync program. The work was pioneered by Robert Monroe of the Monroe Institute (http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/)

Apparently, the good folks at the army did hundreds of these out of body experiences and all through sound activation. The man in-charge eventually left and became the head of the Monroe Institute. The 'spirit space' documentary talks about their findings: Apparently, the universe is a hologram, constructed with special mathematics. The same maths is used in our brains operation; so our brains work like a hologram. Michael Talbot explains the whole thing succinctly on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiwsmf4uS7E&feature=related).

So, hemi-sync works by balancing the left and right brain, so our 'hologram' brain can tune into the hologram universe - accessing akashic records, group mind, other levels of reality, etc. I think I'd like to meet those 'angels of light' and learn more about love, from the source of it all!

Interesting comments, Edinburgh; and also new info for me about the documentary. I'll try to find and watch it (oh, by the way - whether you're 15 or 65 years old, really wise and mature the idea of "Not everyone is prepared to use ayahuasca".)

I'm afraid I've said/recommended this a couple of times already in these forums, but it's worth repeating myself: read Talbot's "The Holographic Universe", don't miss that book...

Curiously enough, I've just discovered (right after reading about it, I've found your post) that the innermost tattwa or tattva, Akasha, is related to the sense of hearing. I barely tolerate any kind of noise; I have to use earplugs to get to sleep and then keep them most of my waking time at home too (sounds are for me even more annoying than direct artificial light or extremely sunny days). I'll look for that documentary.

[Richard]

Since Harvest comes after death, I can say with all truthfulness..."I'm not ready for Harvest either." Not that I'm afraid of death, just that I'm not ready to go yet. Too much to do and too much that I've not seen or experienced.

The side effects of Aya sound similar Peyote. Sure hope it tasted better. Though, after throwing up everything down to your toenails...I still wonder if some of the clarity of mind experienced is as much gratitude for being able to breathe relatively pain free. Thankfully, diarrhea was not part of my peyote experience.

Richard

[Edinburgh]

The side effects of Aya sound similar Peyote. Sure hope it tasted better. Though, after throwing up everything down to your toenails...I still wonder if some of the clarity of mind experienced is as much gratitude for being able to breathe relatively pain free. Thankfully, diarrhea was not part of my peyote experience.

Aya is very hard to drink, it tastes awful. The way round it is to hold your nose, and then you can't smell anything whilst injesting.

Curiously enough, I've just discovered (right after reading about it, I've found your post) that the innermost tattwa or tattva, Akasha, is related to the sense of hearing. I barely tolerate any kind of noise; I have to use earplugs to get to sleep and then keep them most of my waking time at home too (sounds are for me even more annoying than direct artificial light or extremely sunny days). I'll look for that documentary.

It could be that you have a left brain/ right brain imbalance? Barely being able to tolerate sound is not a typical condition to be in. I had a condition where if I closed my eyes, sometimes I would feel tension between the eyes.

However, some good news! I tried the 'hemi-sync' system ... and it's been very, very interesting. There's 6 CDs of material, and I'm only halfway through the first CD, and already I feel a lot more 'aligned' ... the tension between the eyes is gone. I feel 'tuned' ... like a violin or instrument that was needing adjustment. I feel calmer, more centered, better in everyway.

It's hard to explain ... the way that Talbot explained it was that the universe is a hologram, which uses Fourier mathematics. Our brains also seem to be operate as a type of hologram, again explained with fourier mathematics.

The part where hemi-sync comes in: If our brain sides (left and right) are out of sync, then our interactions with the world could be out of sync. By balancing, using hemi-sync (or other similar techniques) we are able to 'fit' into the hologram better.

Buddhist monks who've practiced meditation for dozens of years, say after trying the hemi-sync approach, that the results are very similar. However, not everyone has a dozen years to spend meditating 6 hours a day :-)

[Edinburgh]

Here is the link to "Spirit Space", in case you'd like to watch the documentary yourself.

http://vimeo.com/20807137

And here is a link to a book talking about the importance of having 'out of body experiences', and possibly how to have them yourself (without using ayahuasca!)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/452667/Robert-...xperiences


Enjoy!!

[godwide_void]

Really interesting thread here, especially in regards to the akashic spirit medicine/technology (Ayahuasca). My experiences with it were definitely purgative of much built up negativity and a readjusting of my soul with the most ineffable sense of bliss and universal connectivity I have ever felt. Strangely enough the rate of synchronicities in my daily life increased at an alarming rate! I am no stranger to DMT and revere it as technology of the soul, a veil piercer, and a facilitator of experiences which will erase doubts in the mind of the observer as to the existence of realities beyond this and ultimately the godhead itself.

As for the hemi-sync I've heard of similar things involving binaural beats to cause one to have an OOBE, is it the same thing? Very interesting to hear you got results from it Edinburgh! Did it cause any phenomenon to occur besides you feeling more "tuned"?

Also, thanks for the documentary link. Will check it out as soon as I can!

[Oceania]

there's hemicync on youtube.

[Edinburgh]

Really interesting thread here, especially in regards to the akashic spirit medicine/technology (Ayahuasca). My experiences with it were definitely purgative of much built up negativity and a readjusting of my soul with the most ineffable sense of bliss and universal connectivity I have ever felt. Strangely enough the rate of synchronicities in my daily life increased at an alarming rate! I am no stranger to DMT and revere it as technology of the soul, a veil piercer, and a facilitator of experiences which will erase doubts in the mind of the observer as to the existence of realities beyond this and ultimately the godhead itself.

As for the hemi-sync I've heard of similar things involving binaural beats to cause one to have an OOBE, is it the same thing? Very interesting to hear you got results from it Edinburgh! Did it cause any phenomenon to occur besides you feeling more "tuned"?

Also, thanks for the documentary link. Will check it out as soon as I can!

DMT via Ayahuasca works. It's been written and talked about many times by respected professionals. However, it does require a big commitment, in terms of time and effects management.

Binaural beats and hemi-sync are the same thing. The Monroe program has several levels, each with several listening assignments. I've just finished the first level, and another 6 to go. The program indicates that OOBE is one of the effects of the binaural / hemi-sync. That's what I'm aiming for. I like the Monroe system, because each exercise is very carefully designed and guided, it's very reassuring. So far, the effects have been I'm seeing and experiencing more and more alignment ... synchronicities ...

I think the whole DMT/ OOBE experience works best with clear intentions, affirmations ... so that co-creating happens, daily, every minute, every moment. And you need those affirmations and visualisation to channel all that extra energy you're accessing ... once you can channel that energy, wow, so much is possible.

I can honestly say I'm happier and calmer, than any point in my life before.

[unity100]

started looking for other ways, without using medicines/ drugs/ or extreme fasting.

its not good to imbalance mind/body/spirit balance to effect any paranormal or psychedelic experience.

experiences should be achieved by the natural balance of the entity.

[godwide_void]

Really interesting thread here, especially in regards to the akashic spirit medicine/technology (Ayahuasca). My experiences with it were definitely purgative of much built up negativity and a readjusting of my soul with the most ineffable sense of bliss and universal connectivity I have ever felt. Strangely enough the rate of synchronicities in my daily life increased at an alarming rate! I am no stranger to DMT and revere it as technology of the soul, a veil piercer, and a facilitator of experiences which will erase doubts in the mind of the observer as to the existence of realities beyond this and ultimately the godhead itself.

As for the hemi-sync I've heard of similar things involving binaural beats to cause one to have an OOBE, is it the same thing? Very interesting to hear you got results from it Edinburgh! Did it cause any phenomenon to occur besides you feeling more "tuned"?

Also, thanks for the documentary link. Will check it out as soon as I can!

DMT via Ayahuasca works. It's been written and talked about many times by respected professionals. However, it does require a big commitment, in terms of time and effects management.

Binaural beats and hemi-sync are the same thing. The Monroe program has several levels, each with several listening assignments. I've just finished the first level, and another 6 to go. The program indicates that OOBE is one of the effects of the binaural / hemi-sync. That's what I'm aiming for. I like the Monroe system, because each exercise is very carefully designed and guided, it's very reassuring. So far, the effects have been I'm seeing and experiencing more and more alignment ... synchronicities ...

I think the whole DMT/ OOBE experience works best with clear intentions, affirmations ... so that co-creating happens, daily, every minute, every moment. And you need those affirmations and visualisation to channel all that extra energy you're accessing ... once you can channel that energy, wow, so much is possible.

I can honestly say I'm happier and calmer, than any point in my life before.

Your intentions and affirmations definitely need to be clear when pursuing DMT visionary quests or attempting an OOBE. It can and will punish you if you disrespect it and enter into it with less than noble intentions. The rewards you can reap are exactly as you said, the propensity to have much more energy to channel through your daily life and a more reinforced base to do so from.

I'd heard about the Monroe Institute ages ago, I'm facepalming myself for not delving into it earlier! I would like to give most, if not all, the CD's a good listen. Did you order them directly from the site or torrent it? I also see they charge... quite the amount for those seeking to actually go attend a 6-day lodge of theirs. Which CD are you listening to?

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Oh, and I do suppose I should answer the OP question. I've largely gotten my life in order, and have mended the relationships dearest to me and continue to improve them on a daily basis, though I still have some transient things to work on... Apart from the fact that I've still yet to finish releasing all of my Law of One-related/inspired music (I plan to accomplish this before Harvest, so in case I am gone I can leave behind a nice trail of clues and breadcrumbs for those who would be repeating the 3D to follow, acting as my own brand of catalyst to nudge in the right direction even after I have moved on)... apart from that, I believe I'd be ready to be Harvested at this moment in time. I feel as though the only lesson left that I need to further improve and expand upon is unconditional love and would like to be in a density where it is abundant (as we all are/would, heh). I'm highly, highly grateful to L/L for providing us all the opportunity to have a very decent headstart in cultivating this limitless and nondiscriminatory compassion for all.

[Oceania]

i thought binaural was different.

[Edinburgh]

Your intentions and affirmations definitely need to be clear when pursuing DMT visionary quests or attempting an OOBE. It can and will punish you if you disrespect it and enter into it with less than noble intentions. The rewards you can reap are exactly as you said, the propensity to have much more energy to channel through your daily life and a more reinforced base to do so from.

I'd heard about the Monroe Institute ages ago, I'm facepalming myself for not delving into it earlier! I would like to give most, if not all, the CD's a good listen. Did you order them directly from the site or torrent it? I also see they charge... quite the amount for those seeking to actually go attend a 6-day lodge of theirs. Which CD are you listening to?

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Oh, and I do suppose I should answer the OP question. I've largely gotten my life in order, and have mended the relationships dearest to me and continue to improve them on a daily basis, though I still have some transient things to work on... Apart from the fact that I've still yet to finish releasing all of my Law of One-related/inspired music (I plan to accomplish this before Harvest, so in case I am gone I can leave behind a nice trail of clues and breadcrumbs for those who would be repeating the 3D to follow, acting as my own brand of catalyst to nudge in the right direction even after I have moved on)... apart from that, I believe I'd be ready to be Harvested at this moment in time. I feel as though the only lesson left that I need to further improve and expand upon is unconditional love and would like to be in a density where it is abundant (as we all are/would, heh). I'm highly, highly grateful to L/L for providing us all the opportunity to have a very decent headstart in cultivating this limitless and nondiscriminatory compassion for all.

Good to hear you're getting better and better Your Law of One music sounds like a good idea! Unconditional love is not an easy one to get your head around - the first time I heard that the highest emotion to any event was love, even being attacked, it was difficult for me. Now, I'm a different person, a better person, the one I always wanted to be. (And it's something I keep working on, refining aspirations daily; morning and night).

Here's a neat technique I learned from the Sons of the Law of One podcasts (I think number 12): when forgiving someone or expressing unconditional love, apart from thinking, feeling or saying those things, you could add in a physical motion to 'make it real'. For example, I often like to imagine I'm blowing a kiss into the air, to land on the cheek of the person in question, as I send my forgiveness and/or love to them. The physical seems to solidify the thoughts and emotion. I don't know why it works exactly, but it does seem to.

You know, I worked in marketing for years, and had what I thought many 'enemies' along the way. After starting my spiritual journey with Law of One, and going on from there, I ended up sincerely forgiving and loving all those people. I now feel very 'light' as I have no emotional burden at all. There's no more negatively left whatsoever, and it feels really good!

I agree with your point about DMT. I think the same is true of OOBE ... and I think that's what Unity is talking about. Having 'paranormal' (I would say spiritual) experiences with less than honourable intentions usually goes wrong. It's not something that everyone needs or would appreciate, and I respect that.

Don't facepalm yourself! "There are no mistakes" ... it's all good friend. Sooner or later, this time or next, we'll all 'get it'. I'm using the CD's, which are a lot less than attending the lodge. Although, I would like to attend the lodge soon as well, which I think would be after the 2012 business is over, so that the prices might come down :-) I've just started CD 2 yesterday night ... it was very pleasurable.

[Richard]

Are we mixing metaphors though? "Harvest" and "Ascension". Seems so,lately. I think they are different concepts. Ascension seems to refer to something that might happen to the human race to spiritually advance us physically in this density...to prepare us?

While, Harvest is a path taken at death's door to review the previous lives and graduate to the next density...or not.

Is "Ascension" even mnetioned in the Ra & Qu'o material at all?

Richard

[ƒ❤losopher]

Are we mixing metaphors though? "Harvest" and "Ascension". Seems so,lately. I think they are different concepts. Ascension seems to refer to something that might happen to the human race to spiritually advance us physically in this density...to prepare us?

While, Harvest is a path taken at death's door to review the previous lives and graduate to the next density...or not.

Is "Ascension" even mnetioned in the Ra & Qu'o material at all?

Richard

Yes, I'm wondering that too.