moon in scorpio

[Odinn]

Yeah then you most likely are a Plutonian as well. You should really check out the astrology thread in olio, it is very pluto-centric .
These are strong energies.

I'll check it. Thnx, Meerie!

[Oceania]

no it doesn't work for me. my anger comes out in the sound.

[3DMonkey]

Sounds like simple domestic frustrations. I can get heated and have a yelling contest. Slamming doors? Is THAT bad? That doesn't even break things, lol.

[Odinn]

no it doesn't work for me. my anger comes out in the sound.

I'm not physical in an agressive sense, but when dealing with deep situations of frustration, besides talking very strongly or even also yield, I feel so "powerfully" bad that I need to take it out anyway I can. I've never punched anybody or been engaged in fightings , but in that state I need to punch something, project, expel the thing out of me. And it usually goes against a wall or a door or table and my knuckles and/or my elbow end up by being the ones paying my anger.

Not very clever business.

Worse thing is that that reminds me of the scorpion telling the frog "I'm sorry, it's my nature"

Not very clever business

[Oceania]

in my situation yelling is as bad as fighting with fists. it's just not good. if something you do hurts someone you can't just say it's ok i didn't punch them.

[3DMonkey]

Is it everyone or just one?

[Brittany]

I usually scream into a pillow. I've come home from work and screamed until I couldn't scream anymore. I would agree that you've got to get that anger out in some way. Hoarding it will only make it explode. Drawing and writing help me sometimes. I'll write really painful poems and stuff...kind of depressing for other people to read, but it helps me get the emotion out.

It sounds like you might be like me and get easily agitated from taking in too much energy. If you're pulling in other people's emotions that could easily manifest as "anger without a cause." Have you looked into shielding and grounding techniques?

[Oceania]

everyone or just one?

[Meerie]

We are all one, so it does not really matter, does it?

[Odinn]

in my situation yelling is as bad as fighting with fists. it's just not good. if something you do hurts someone you can't just say it's ok i didn't punch them.

Of course. Then, if you have the chance at the moment get out or get some space from those around you and get "privately physical", like jumping or tense your muscles (careful if you do that as it's altogether vasonstrictor).

For the last three days I'm reminding me things like:
- Just an illusion. Not worth getting angry with something doesn't exist.
- Total nonsense fighting the hologram

Sometimes it works...

[AnthroHeart]

Yeah, I was getting angry at someone in my mind earlier, thinking about how I would respond to them.

Then I had to wonder, why does Creator like to argue with itself?

[Oceania]

doesn't work. you don't understand. i HATE. i am angry. that means in that state i want to destroy. i want to hurt. i am vengeful. i do not want to do gentle exercises i want to do damage. anger is not a state where you can rationally blow off steam. it's a place where you want to do damage because you are angry.

[3DMonkey]

Anger isn't the problem. What sets you off is what needs to be dealt with. Is it really worth it? Is it something that you can't change? Is it something you could walk away from? Could you just "change the channel"?

People don't change, so if it's certain people, you should change how you perceive them. People don't change.

[Brittany]

My husband took a sword to a bush once when he was angry. Not really great for the sword or the bush, but I guess it was better than taking a sword to people. O__O

[Oceania]

i thought anger was the problem. it's just one person that causes me such anger and hurt. unintentionally but the relationship is toxic and ill. i'm trying to get out of it.

[3DMonkey]

Is there video?

[Oceania]

he should make sure no animals in the bush.

[Meerie]

i thought anger was the problem. it's just one person that causes me such anger and hurt. unintentionally but the relationship is toxic and ill. i'm trying to get out of it.

Mum? :-/

[Oceania]

how'd you know?

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moms are good in small doses. just not so much all your life. since i'm a spazz i've lived with her all my life and it's starting to drive me crazy.

[Meerie]

It is your moon, honey. The moon in the horoscope is the mum, usually (besides I think you already had mentioned it )

[Oceania]

really? i guess the sun is the dad.

[Meerie]

"highfive"! is your relationship with your dad better than with your mum?

[Oceania]

highfive! lol yes it is.

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my dad has always been really loving but aloof. and i haven't lived with him since i was a kid so i can relate to him on a more normal level. i like the idea of jewish kibbutzes, they put the kids in a house together and the parents don't live with them.

[Richard]

O,

One of the problems is the parent / child relationship as its perceived by...the parent. No matter how old you get, how independant, how far away you move, how different you think...no matter what you do...

In the eyes of you your parent(s)..you are still somewhere between 5 and 10 yrs old. And therefore should be subject to do their bidding.

Familial dynamics change as you grow older. Its as much a "growing experience" for them as well as yourself. But it sure can be a stormy trip.

Richard

[Brittany]

I think the fist step is realizing anger is just another emotion, given to us as a tool. Being angry is not wrong. It is a natural human response that every single human has felt. First accept the fact that you are angry, then you can move past the self-worth blockage and deal with the actual cause of the anger. The only time anger becomes a real problem is when it controls your life and becomes your default response. The anger in itself is just energy. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

[Oceania]

good points.

[Richard]

Hmmm...hope I'm not soundin like you're Mom.

If so, sorry, lolol.

Richard

[Oceania]

no you're not. the past year has been rough cuz i'm at that 7 year point where my cells change and i become a new person so i want to change my surroundings. it's frustrating. nevermind. i don't mean to blow it all out of proportion.

[3DMonkey]

i don't mean to blow it all out of proportion.

I thought I would be the one to get that response. I thought we might be headed in that direction.

[Meerie]

boxing air doesn't work. i'm more vocal and physical. and i yell. the problem is you can't do that without disturbing others. when i am in pain it comes out as a wail or yell and i scream and cry and sometimes slam doors. that's part of my healing but to others it's destructive. i don't know how to make that so everyone is happy and i feel like i will damage myself if i don't let out some of the rage that way. so it's a constant source of karma. me yelling. dunno how to fix that. except removing myself from the situation which i am trying to do.

How about singing in a heavy metal band? or start singing, in general?
or Primal scream therapy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_therapy
John Lennon did it as well!