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    Meerie

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    05-04-2011, 04:21 AM
    I will check her books if she calls it higher self or something else... but I think it is the higherself.
    A thought occurred to me, could it be there is a higher self that we all share? like a higher higher self? watching over all of us and knowing all about us. (that sounds more like the one infinite creator when I put it like that)
    and the higher self that you meet in meditation is maybe more of a personalized more intimate version?
    About disturbance in the recordings, DC mentions that quite often too.
    What was the impression Jonas gave you? you think he does well what he does?
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    05-04-2011, 04:41 AM
    It was not the Higher Self that I've come to know, nor was it the Creator that I've come to know either. If there is a word for what it was, it would be a shadow part of the Higher Self. Cold and clever. It did not desired to hurt me, intentionally, or mislead me, on contrary, it was pointing into the direction of love. Nevertheless, the choice of the words and the way of how it looked down at me, was not of the approach I would imagine any of Higher density Beings of positive polarity would take, nor would it be an approach of any 6D Beings who lack polarity, at least as I've been looking at things so far. But what do I know?

    Jonas is the Wanderer. He is a kind and loving soul. Yes, I think that he does well in what he does.
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    05-04-2011, 04:45 AM
    (05-04-2011, 04:41 AM)Ankh Wrote: Nevertheless, the choice of the words and the way of how it looked down at me, was not of the approach I would imagine any of Higher density Beings of positive polarity would take, nor would it be an approach of any 6D Beings who lack polarity, at least as I've been looking at things so far.

    When you say "looked down at me" do you mean... it came across as arrogant? or even condescending?

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    #34
    05-04-2011, 04:54 AM
    (05-04-2011, 04:45 AM)Meerie Wrote: When you say "looked down at me" do you mean... it came across as arrogant? or even condescending?

    There were no emotions whatsoever. It was stone cold. It looked down at me from some high point of superiority and was completely unaffected of everything that I felt and thought. Now that I looked at the answers, there was one answer when I thought "aha, got ya!", because It did not want to say so much, but now that I look back at the answer I see how clever it was, and I didn't got anything. I would imagine that this Being would be me if I choose the STS path. However, It was not trying to mislead me, and I could clearly understand that.

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    05-04-2011, 06:49 AM
    Hi Ankh. I can relate somewhat to confusion after a session as such.

    What was the appearance and/or gender of this HS?

    .....
    (Meerie, apparently, many people share the same higher self)
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    05-04-2011, 06:54 AM
    3, you mean, people from the same social memory complex, for example?
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    05-04-2011, 06:58 AM
    Well, yeah. If HS is mid sixth, and sixth is joined social memory complexes, inevitably we are going to be sharing the same HS. Right?

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    05-04-2011, 07:03 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2011, 07:39 AM by transiten.)
    Ankh

    Why do you think this being would be you if you took the STS path? Do you mean "stone cold" as in objective - or cold in a negative way? Or is it that you expected warm feelings and support and then you got "this" hence percieved it as negative instead of neutral?

    I have no idea myself but i can imagine i would react in the same way as you did since i feel i'm in need of closer relationships here in 3D and am myself struggling with the concept of "love" and the multiple ways love can manifest. In certain circumstances detatchment and objectivity might be the proper manifestation of Love???

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    #39
    05-04-2011, 07:09 AM
    (05-04-2011, 07:03 AM)transiten Wrote: In certain circumstances detatchment and objectivity might be the proper manifestation of Love???

    Something that I was thinking as well. Thanks for articulating it, transiten.
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    05-04-2011, 07:25 AM
    I must admit when I read Ra, I sometimes get the impression they are cold and impersonal too.
    And if it is indeed a manifestation of a collective 6D HS that is speaking here, then I could very well imagine that there is a difference, to the more personalized HS that Ankh has gotten to know thru meditation.
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    #41
    05-04-2011, 07:40 AM
    (05-04-2011, 07:25 AM)Meerie Wrote: I must admit when I read Ra, I sometimes get the impression they are cold and impersonal too.
    And if it is indeed a manifestation of a collective 6D HS that is speaking here, then I could very well imagine that there is a difference, to the more personalized HS that Ankh has gotten to know thru meditation.

    M, let us consider even normal earthly life as an analogy.

    Say, for example, that you are the sole sweet song in some man's life currently, and the man adores you as the most beautiful angel of love. In other words, that man loves you deeply. But due to force of circumstances, let us say that the man gets married to someone else. And the man decides to cut all contact with you, so that he can be faithful to his new partner, who is officially married to him.

    Does that make the man cold and impersonal? Yes, on the outer level, but inside, there is love which is being suppressed, so that there is no injustice for any. If humans on earth can be like that, then think about 6D HS, which have to work from the level of rarefied and pure cosmic laws. Just my personal thoughts. I know nothing.

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    05-04-2011, 07:44 AM
    (05-04-2011, 07:40 AM)Confused Wrote: Say, for example, that you are the sole sweet song in some man's life currently, and the man adores you as the most beautiful angel of love. In other words, that man loves you deeply.
    SmileBlushHeart
    (05-04-2011, 07:40 AM)Confused Wrote: But due to force of circumstances, let us say that the man gets married to someone else. And the man decides to cut all contact with you, so that he can be faithful to his new partner, who is officially married to him.
    :@:@:@

    (05-04-2011, 07:40 AM)Confused Wrote: ... but inside, there is love which is being suppressed, so that there is no injustice for any. If humans on earth can be like that, then think about 6D HS, which have to work from the level of rarefied and pure cosmic laws. Just my personal thoughts. I know nothing.
    there is love being suppressed ... how horrible that sounds! Sad

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    05-04-2011, 07:51 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2011, 07:53 AM by transiten.)
    Meerie wrote:

    "there is love being suppressed ... how horrible that sounds! Sad "
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    Agree, though here in 3D we live in the dimension of opposites so we will have to wait for 4D to express all the love we have and even in 4D this will be a distortion since wisdom/5D and love/4D will not be in balance until 6DSad

    Smile though your Heart is Sad 3D is not for :idea:

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    05-04-2011, 07:53 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2011, 07:56 AM by Confused.)
    OK, M, you sort of got angry (3 times!!) over the 'force of circumstances' bit Wink

    On my part, I bless that you unite successfully with whoever the man is, who loves you. And of course, whom you too love in return.

    Is there such a lucky man like that currently, M? OK, OK, sorry for getting too personal. Sometime, I forget my boundaries. I thought I could try my luck with you, since every female LOOer at the Treehuggers are turning me down saying they are hitched :p
    (05-04-2011, 07:51 AM)transiten Wrote: Meerie wrote:

    "there is love being suppressed ... how horrible that sounds! Sad "

    Agree, though here in 3D we live in the dimension of opposites so we will have to wait for 4D to express all the love we have and even in 4D this will be a distortion since wisdom/5D and love/4D will not be in balance until 6DSad

    Smile though your Heart is Sad 3D is not for :idea:

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    Wow, t, that is quite some post! It was very nicely done. Cutely creative. So what power of the planets accomplished this for you today? Wink

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    Meerie

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    #45
    05-04-2011, 08:04 AM
    (05-04-2011, 07:51 AM)transiten Wrote: Smile though your Heart is Sad 3D is not for :idea:

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    Let me try to translate: Smile though your heart is sad. 3d is not for enlightenment.
    Ah that is nice ! :idea:

    C :exclamation: you know I am a good and well-behaved girl. So I will pretend to ignore your question. Tongue
    Yes I do not like circumstances preventing anything. That is why the :@:@:@.
    I must have still memories from other dimensions where no boundaries and blockages existed, that is why.

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    05-04-2011, 08:15 AM
    (05-04-2011, 08:04 AM)Meerie Wrote: C :exclamation: you know I am a good and well-behaved girl.

    OK, you are not going to answer. But I guess there should be someone.

    But whoever it is, I am sure he is one fortunate man in the whole world. I wish that man and you all luck in terms of your love life.

    M, I am just being funny. Sorry if it came across as too personal. I did not expect any answers; but just wanted to be provocatively humorous. Sorry if it crossed a line.

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    #47
    05-04-2011, 08:18 AM
    Lol you are like me... you always feel the need to apologize.
    How come?
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    #48
    05-04-2011, 08:20 AM
    (05-04-2011, 06:49 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: What was the appearance and/or gender of this HS?

    I perceived it as a male; that kind of Being that I would choose to become myself in 5D and early 6D if I choose the STS path. But I am not sure!

    (05-04-2011, 06:58 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: If HS is mid sixth, and sixth is joined social memory complexes, inevitably we are going to be sharing the same HS. Right?

    Q'uo session January 8, 2011:

    Quote:The relationship of the self and the higher self to the social memory complex of which the higher self is a part within mid sixth density is that of an overshadowing energy that can be accessed by the desire of the self within incarnation. This can be accessed because the social memory complex of the sixth-density entity is part and parcel of the depths of the sixth-density entity’s self-definition. [It] is not simply that a member of a social memory complex defines itself as part of that complex, it is rather that all of those entities who have worked together in collaboration for one common purpose over time become closer than friends, or lovers, or mates. They become one in thought, one in hope, one in intention.

    So there is the energy of all of that sixth-density social memory complex, which rests like an aura around the higher self. It is not that the social memory complex as a whole has more pointed advice to give you or more helpful resources to offer than the higher self by itself, it is that accepting the higher self’s social memory complex as part of the higher self, one is able to access the overwhelming power of the combined seeking of all those involved in the social memory complex. And it is often helpful simply to focus the self within that third-density, momentary desire. There is a clarifying energy to the social memory complex itself that is over and above the individual energy of that higher self that you may call your "highest and best self."

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0108.aspx

    And that is how I perceived the Higher Self and my social memory complex before I found that session.

    (05-04-2011, 07:03 AM)transiten Wrote: Ankh

    Why do you think this being would be you if you took the STS path? Do you mean "stone cold" as in objective - or cold in a negative way? Or is it that you expected warm feelings and support and then you got "this" hence percieved it as negative instead of neutral?

    I have no idea myself but i can imagine i would react in the same way as you did since i feel i'm in need of closer relationships here in 3D and am myself struggling with the concept of "love" and the multiple ways love can manifest. In certain circumstances detatchment and objectivity might be the proper manifestation of Love???

    transiten

    We all have our own dance through this octave of course. And what I believe in is that there is no neutrality. Neutrality is the confusion. The Higher Self and the social memory complex that the Higher Self is a part of, is the majesty of pure love, pure understanding, and unconditional embracing. A balanced Being that sees everything as love/light/one.

    What I also perceived during the regression is a way of how we looked down on Earth. There was no difference between you and I. If two persons climb up at the same mountain, and one has reached up higher than the other one, does that make him a better person? No. He has just climbed up higher, that's all. So if the one who is lower down cries for help and you are all that he has, would you not go back and help him?

    Either way, it feels like the confusion I've been having regarding these two paths, ie STS vs STO, or so called choice, is gone now. I see it for what it is. One path is the path that leads you straight home, that is filled with love and majesty, and the other one is a path of coldness and blockages. So if you can't manage the majesty, you can choose to not to feel it. And it's ok. It will all be ok at the end.

    (05-04-2011, 07:40 AM)Confused Wrote: If humans on earth can be like that, then think about 6D HS, which have to work from the level of rarefied and pure cosmic laws.

    I understand what you are saying. However, nothing is suppressed or repressed in the Higher Self. Everything is embraced and seen as love/light and light/love. This is of course my subjective view.
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    05-04-2011, 08:26 AM
    (05-04-2011, 08:20 AM)Ankh Wrote: I understand what you are saying. However, nothing is suppressed or repressed in the Higher Self. Everything is embraced and seen as love/light and light/love.

    I agree, Ankh. I think you are very right there. Circumstances do not always win over true love.

    Thanks for teaching me that lesson, sister.

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    05-04-2011, 08:27 AM
    (05-04-2011, 07:51 AM)transiten Wrote: Agree, though here in 3D we live in the dimension of opposites so we will have to wait for 4D to express all the love we have

    After this session I choose to disagree with the above. That's what we came here for. To heal our own hearts and hearts of beings all around us. Yes, we are all one and therefore we are all injured and wounded. But expressed love is what heals us all.
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    05-04-2011, 08:28 AM
    (05-04-2011, 08:18 AM)Meerie Wrote: Lol you are like me... you always feel the need to apologize.
    How come?

    Because we are one Heart, as the Law is One RollEyes

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    05-04-2011, 08:38 AM
    Highfive, C! Heart
    Ankh did Jonas explain the "lower vibrations" that seemed to be audible on the tape also? What is it? or what do you think it is? (some astral entity interfering?)

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    05-04-2011, 08:41 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2011, 08:43 AM by Ankh.)
    He said that the energies were high and we were working with lower nexis (or chakras as he put it). And that was causing the sound of low frequency that was recorded.

    EDIT: I would call it an intensive work with low vibrations that are malfunctioning in three nexi centers down under. Tongue

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    05-04-2011, 08:49 AM
    But I don't get it... Why were you working with lower chakras? Huh
    I would presume when contacting HS in a session the work would be done almost exclusively with the higher chakras.

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    05-04-2011, 08:56 AM
    (05-04-2011, 08:49 AM)Meerie Wrote: But I don't get it... Why were you working with lower chakras? Huh
    I would presume when contacting HS in a session the work would be done almost exclusively with the higher chakras.

    According to this regression I have a self chosen guilt which lies in lower nexis and is blocking higher nexis.

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    05-04-2011, 09:00 AM
    Ah okay so it was quite therapeutic in a way too, I guess. No wonder you felt so overwhelmed.
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    05-04-2011, 09:01 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2011, 09:03 AM by Confused.)
    (05-04-2011, 08:41 AM)Ankh Wrote: EDIT: I would call it an intensive work with low vibrations that are malfunctioning in three nexi centers down under. :p

    Our Ankh is back.

    Back from the immediate confusion of the previous mission. Now, she will hold aloft the flag of love, for the glory of the ONE.

    Welcome to our Ankh, the knight of the order of the love and the light of the ONE.
    (05-04-2011, 08:56 AM)Ankh Wrote: According to this regression I have a self chosen guilt which lies in lower nexis and is blocking higher nexis.

    Could it be due to the potential fact that you think you are not loving, while in fact you are deeply loving? Just wondering.

    Are you blocking the flow of love in to the lower chakras, thinking you are not capable of bestowing love, while yet, you show love more than many other people. I do not know whether there is sense to that! But I thought I should ask it that way.

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    05-04-2011, 09:05 AM
    I am happy you noticed that touch of light, my brother.
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    05-04-2011, 09:26 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2011, 09:28 AM by transiten.)
    Meerie wrote:

    Let me try to translate: Smile though your heart is sad. 3d is not for enlightenment.
    Ah that is nice ! :idea:

    Transiten answers:

    Hmmm I was thinking of Charlie Chaplins song "Smile".... though your heart is breaking..and 3D is note for understanding Wink

    Transiten again:

    Thanks Confused! You seem to be such a gentle soul! And not very moody as pple with many planets in cancer can be....

    ...not very creative as it comes to the multiquotationbutton...i found my own solution though...

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    05-04-2011, 09:31 AM
    (05-04-2011, 09:26 AM)transiten Wrote: Thanks Confused! You seem to be such a gentle soul! And not very moody as pple with many planets in cancer can be....

    Thank you so much, t Blush

    That is very very kind of you Smile

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