The Nature of Dual Activated Bodies

[Ocean]

1D is like rock and crap.

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meaning no animals.

[Bring4th_Austin]

1D is like rock and crap.

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meaning no animals.

The matter that makes up 1D, the elements in rock, water, and air specifically, make up our body.

The iron in a rock is the same as the iron in our body. The water in a stream is (essentially) the same as the water in our body.

So the question is, how is this matter different from density to density?

Obviously, as density increases, the matter is spiraled into more and more complex formations through DNA. But would it be accurate to say that our bodies are made up of 1D, turned into 3D by DNA?


Idea: Q'uo and I believe Ra have pointed out that without our elevated consciousness, our bodies would act as 2D animals, so it's our 3D consciousness that makes us 3D. So without 2D consciousness, our body would regress even further into 1D consciousness, that is, matter without the conscious awareness of 2D and above? It's as if we contain all of the densities to this point within us, 1D, 2D, and 3D. But, as I understand it, this will not continue into the other densities.

...who knows.

[Ocean]

well consciousness makes the difference. all is 3D in physicality. but consciousness varies.

[3DMonkey]

The key to all that is "entity". 4D is a collective consciousness. It operates as a unit. 1D entities make up my one 3D body for me/entity. One day these 1D entities will enjoy a 3D experience.

[native]

Abridge..I finally read it myself, excellent effort. No doubt newcomers will ask this very question in another thread next week lol.

[AnthroHeart]

well consciousness makes the difference. all is 3D in physicality. but consciousness varies.

Ra has said that very little work is done in consciousness in higher densities as compared to third density work.

48.5 Questioner: Thank you. That clears up that point very well. Can you tell me how positive and negative polarizations in fourth and fifth density are used to cause working in consciousness?

Ra: I am Ra. There is very little work in consciousness in fourth and in fifth densities compared to the work done in third density. The work that is accomplished in positive fourth is that work whereby the positive social memory complex, having, through slow stages, harmoniously integrated itself, goes forth to aid those of less positive orientation which seek their aid. Thus their service is their work and through this dynamic between the societal self and the other-self, which is the object of love, greater and greater intensities of understanding or compassion are attained. This intensity continues until the appropriate intensity of the light may be welcomed. This is fourth-density harvest.

[Ocean]

in consciousness or on consciousness? working on consciousness or working consciously? i took that as saying that there's less work needed with our own consciousness and the service to others begins.

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the LOO reminds me strongly of Joe's Scripts, the way Joe explains how things work in heaven, and how you progress and learn more and... well, i should make a thread about it.

[zenmaster]

semantics. lol.

[Ocean]

duh, winning!

[zenmaster]

tiger blood!

[Bring4th_Austin]

well consciousness makes the difference. all is 3D in physicality. but consciousness varies.

The key to all that is "entity". 4D is a collective consciousness. It operates as a unit. 1D entities make up my one 3D body for me/entity. One day these 1D entities will enjoy a 3D experience.

Not to take focus off the ever important philosophies of Mr. Sheen

I'm gonna bring this back around because the question really is something that I'm confused about and wondering if anyone has any ideas.

I remember Ra speaking about the core vibration in atomic particles changing coming into 4th density. I took this to mean the 4D material world would be different from the 3D material world.

Will matter change in 4D? Is there such thing as "4D matter?" Or as zen pointed out, 2D or 3D matter?

[Ocean]

i think the 4D material might be denser in light and lighter in density.

[3DMonkey]

Yeah, I think so Abridge. Recently we were discussing that Ra was saying the physical body of 4D is evolved from 3D bodies and is made up of completely different chemicals. A complete new set of existing chemicals? Or a completely new elemental chart, so to speak? I'm going to say it is the latter. And if so, 4D probably has its own "matter" of a new kind.

[Ocean]

cool!!!

[AnthroHeart]

4D is electrical rather than chemical.

[3DMonkey]

Like calcium in our current bodies?

[Ocean]

are these the new crystalline bodies everyone keeps talking about in the new age circle?

[3DMonkey]

I guess?

[Bring4th_Austin]

are these the new crystalline bodies everyone keeps talking about in the new age circle?

I'm not familiar with this concept. What is the description of these crystalline bodies?

I have read a Q'uo session where a questioner asks about "crystalline children," in which they point out that they are no different from indigo children, and are simply what Ra and Q'uo refer to as dual activated individuals.

[Ocean]

we're supposed to go from carbon based to crystalline.

dual bodies are crystal children?

[3DMonkey]

You might make that correlation if you want to, Ocean. All these energies are coming into the planetary sphere. People are all "seeing" bit and pieces, and expressing what they see with wonder. As we witness, semantics run abroad. So, its probably the same thing with different definitions. I don't know.

[Ocean]

it's all so confusing.

[Bring4th_Austin]

we're supposed to go from carbon based to crystalline.

dual bodies are crystal children?

As 3DM pointed out, this is a case where semantics play a huge role. According to Q'uo, crystal children are dual bodies, but this is just according to Q'uo.

Your definition of crystal children, my definition of crystal children, and Q'uo's definition of crystal children, are all without a doubt different. This is the exact definition of semantics.

I try to relay Q'uo and Ra's teachings without projecting the "Ra box" 3DM defined for us.

[Ocean]

ok, it's semantics. it's still annoying so many people appear authorities on the subject. like so many of those crystal child books tout that crystal children are calm and sensitive, and indigos temperamental. so someone like me can never think i am crystal because i was loud and always screaming, had terrible temper issues. but i was more sensitive than an indigo. i guess channeled material from all sides leaves us wanting.

[3DMonkey]

ok, it's semantics. it's still annoying so many people appear authorities on the subject. like so many of those crystal child books tout that crystal children are calm and sensitive, and indigos temperamental. so someone like me can never think i am crystal because i was loud and always screaming, had terrible temper issues. but i was more sensitive than an indigo. i guess channeled material from all sides leaves us wanting.

Yeah. I call that the "Jesus syndrome." Somebody gets a glimpse of intelligent energy that is one tidbit and needs to compartmentalize it and "TELL IT TO THE WORLD". Let em have there experience, I say.

"Bye gones" - Richard Fish

[Bring4th_Austin]

I completely agree about people who pretend to be authorities on the subject. I don't browse much in the way of metaphysical books. The "New Age Market" is extremely exploitable, and people caught in our 3D society/life want an authority figure to listen to. No one realizes all the answers are available to us, hidden in the silence.

[Ocean]

the answers come when we let them, i get information from stories, religions, overheard conversations... i was naive in the beginning.

[zenmaster]

No one realizes all the answers are available to us, hidden in the silence.

That's because no one knows how to ask simple questions that are relevant to their own condition. If they did start asking simple questions, then experience would show that the answers are there. But until they learn to ask questions, they demand that others ask the questions for them. Hence the authorities that they created by their specific demands.

[3DMonkey]

yeah but Ra is bigger so time is slower for THEM, not us the smaller ones.

This is how I think the "zoomed out" perspective of a larger entity sees our life. ( and so what took minutes from our view for an ant to walk across the porch , took hours from his perspective ) This is only a mental exercise, nothing fact based.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk6_hdRtJOE

[hogey11]

Yeah, I think so Abridge. Recently we were discussing that Ra was saying the physical body of 4D is evolved from 3D bodies and is made up of completely different chemicals. A complete new set of existing chemicals? Or a completely new elemental chart, so to speak? I'm going to say it is the latter. And if so, 4D probably has its own "matter" of a new kind.

i'm super-late to this party, but joining in anyways!

this was a cool link I was looking at yesterday:

Is the Sun emitting a mystery particle?

Hmmmm evidence of the 4D vibrations???