[split] "The dark attacks from the shadow ..."

[earth_spirit]

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[Minyatur]

Questioner: Are you saying then there are an infinite number of octaves of densities one through eight?

Ra: I am Ra. We wish to establish that we are truly humble messengers of the Law of One. We can speak to you of our experiences and our understandings and teach/learn in limited ways. However, we cannot speak in firm knowledge of all the creations. We know only that they are infinite. We assume an infinite number of octaves.

However, it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins. Thus we can only say we assume an infinite progression though we understand it to be cyclical in nature and, as we have said, clad in mystery.

I did not think this to be untrue.

[Minyatur]

@Van

Then do you see yourself as exempt of your own polarity or simply share indifference toward which way it goes and how strong it becomes?

[Minyatur]

@Van

I didn't first intend to write this but oh well.. what you were opened to through the material was what you were resonant with. Ra can pour love in his intent but that won't keep one who has darkness in his heart to open to door unto it. Blaming a material meant to give you keys of your mind and soul for what lied within them is a bit off in my opinion. The Ra material had nothing to do with the hell you've openened yourself to, it gave you keys to what lied dormant within you.

You often have this kind of blaming attitude, you blamed porn for your tastes of it when so many others came across the same things you did while feeling differently about it.

Although I can agree that there are biases and extensions which were not told within the material, this material has much more love poured into it than any words you have written on this forum.

I never quite got why you do not resonate with polarity either. Through your oh so many words, you seem to avoid getting to the heart of the matter each time. This is an Octave of Light/Love and Love/Light and those are polarisable. Although with bias, the material presented fully that what is made of it is up to you and your free will, and that whatever you do is well and without mistakes (I believe this said so that one who wished to polarize polarity is not weighted by what he could perceive as mistakes and is thaught to work through acceptance instead). So all of your deeds whether positive or negative in intent and whether positive or negative in effect, will come to be accepted and transmuted into distortless Love and Light in due time.

If you truly want to prove to me that you are the breaker of illusion, then break out of manyness and lose your soul identity forever. Sadly for both you and me, to do this we must work with polarity for what seems to be an eternity until what was once the paradox of our identities is fully resolved into boundless potential within the Source.

On a side note I tend to call what many call love insanity, the insanity of wanting to be many, the insanity of wanting to grow, love and be loved. The insanity of void blinding itself to it's true nature.

On another side note, I think it is quite common for many spiritual seekers to want to skip steps along the way.

[Aion]

Sigh.  I see no good or evil.  Just a single multifaceted Infinity.

I understand polarity good enough to know it isn't for me and I understood the Ra Material good enough before I came to this community and muddied it up with a million versions of polarity.

I think in time you'll all come to see just what has happened here...

Its like talking to people bound willingly into their own versions of slavery, I've left my hell.  I've seen my Light.

Very few here...  Have shown an understanding for the Law of One's Polarity, in the literal Law of One sense.  Many have it distorted thinking 3D polarity is the Law of One Polarity.

I'm a Wanderer, I don't need to polarize to do my work in this fashion, I desire to bring forth a higher order that Polarity does not get along with.  I'd consider it setting energetic roots into the collective.  I am very not alone in this and I think some would argue this group dampers longterm progress for quick shortterm success in.the name of a cosmic religion taught by polarized beings.  Simply put, the whole of this Orion/Confederation issue is a farce that aids any paradigm of separation for polarization.

I don't know what to quite think of Ra's personality or characteristics, but their Material is not pure love/light as it first appeared.

My eyes have adjusted, there is more to this Material...Than what you'd think.  It is as much an aid to Orion as it is the Confederation.  It is divine misinformation mixed with Truth.  Perpetuating quietly and invisibly separation in the name of unity.

There isn't even Light, do you realize this?

Illusions go deep.

There is only one thing, and the entire point of this place for some, not all, is to see that, rather than to choose polarity.

The Creator is in/sane.  Just as polarity is both de/polarizing.  There is a singular infinite balance some seek that you could call Pureness.  I'm one of those, and while my.methods are destructive and constructive, I have never made or destroyed anything.

I can't describe it.  I leave a lovingly made warning about Polarity and the Ra Material.

If you aren't careful, they won't free you.  They'll only make you that much more comfortable in your illusion of freedom.

Not everyone is here to break free of illusions...But it is my honor/duty to throw out a lifeboat for those who are who wander here and become entrapped into madness.

People have killed themselves in vain over this Material.  It is not proper to deem it 'pure'.  It is very much a disservice to many.

I'm just trying to make it so for those who this Material is not for, in their confusion, they will see that they are not trapped and bound by the Universe posited in this Material, that they are not stuck to this now that they've found it.

I would've considered myself a LOO Zealot when I first arrived.  Now.  Now I ask you to hold an openmind and consider that all of my words are not truly just for you, but all who should ever glance them.

That the Law of One is not purely given here, in any form except an arrow pointing.  This is a stop in the road and many have chosen to settle rather than continue.

It is clever binding. You'd never know it either.  The most spectacular tricks of illusion, is how anything can be anything.  'Dark'ness does not reveal its move as it strikes.

To describe it would require the finesse of a poet.  I am not so skillfully useful to try and teach/learn that this Material enslaves some as it frees others.

If you feel deeply disturbed.

That is cognitive dissonance and my duty is honored and fulfilled.  Its up to you now to decide if your personal understanding of this material has actually helped free you, or if it just made you feel free while restricting you.

I was the ladder.  I exist and this post is my Truth to you all. Im a bit unorthodox as you know.  But I'm pure in my intent.  I want to help, I see something that is hurting others, I am here to help.

The Ra Material is not 'evil' but it is not 'good' either.  It very much fulfills its role of being all things on both sides.  Ra was kind enough to say many will distort their teachings in the beginning.  Its my opinion their teachings were already distorted enough.  They didn't lie but they weren't telling the whole truth, and I have nothing but my inner resonance and intuition to go off of when I say this.

And I am not mad or upset, I am concerned.

I think it only proper I be transparent and honest of these things with you all.

Well done, my friend, you have penetrated the veil.

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

-was seriously expecting a different response-

Thank you for not reaming me for that post everyone.  I was pretty scared hitting that post button...

Min, I'm sorry to say this, but you are correct about me in some respects.  But now please see how you've used this Material to judge me.

I do blame, its a habit I think I share with my Mom, Thank you for pointing it out to me as I have been aware only partially mostly from denial of this.

I think my words hold less love in place of trying to be wisely said and not my usual banter.  I have no say or clue as to how well I performed such, but if its worth any mention, the Egregore on this forum is very disorienting mentally for me.  If I'm not careful I end up.betraying myself from not being more conscious of how this entity interacts.

Despite this I feel a reaching out for aid and I have not wanted to take that call because I've been dealing with my own.stuff...

Min...I don't blame the Ra Material for my Hell, I however do hold it responsible for giving me the keys to those doors.  However, now that I'm no longer in that Frame of Mind...  I am...I feel...That its worth saying, Hell and suffering dulls with continued existence away from such.  I truly was as you kind of implied, torturing, murdering, and raping myself in my own version of Hell.

I hold many in thanks for my surviving hell.  Suicide was constantly on my mind while there, and the infinite reasons my mind conjured up for it were...  Hard to suppress, had I not y'all to always throw me with glee your thoughts and kindnesses and even judgments, I'd probably have just given up.  Don't underestimate your power to help another, anyone reading this.

E_s, I need to rig up my old desktop to handle TF2 on any of my computers, otherwise I'd probably already be on a first name basis with you >->
Oh, wrong subject lol

I'm doing exactly well, not too up not too low.  Quit smoking weed, got a new roommate who I've been helping since she needed help and a place to live, so my life got busy.  Plus I'm off overnight shifts.  I came back to the daytime, my mind couldn't handle the isolation.

....I've been childish, with people pointing out my flaws.  I ask you not to censor yourself for me, sincere honesty is always welcome.  As the saying goes, Thank you for being straight with me about things.  You are all always available to point out my imbalances, just remember if you see such imbalances to also check your self for such.

I got to a highly unusual place on my balance and I saw it in every corner of this forum and realized I was partly tuned into the egregore here.  Its a lovely being but very confused in a lack of care made to direct its massive...massive...just...endless wells of Care.  No one is to blame, its an effort I think a few can direct without need to bother others on their mannerisms here.

I've contributed much confusing pain into it.  I want to smooth those out, and would like to stay and be allowed to further reach out to those areas on this forum that are otherwise...stagnating as if unkempt energetically.

I'm no magician, just an idiot playing with rough light (Fire).  I got burned and am back for more.  I actually give nyself to those 'dark' entities who 'greet' me in thought, to murder in thought.  Sacrificing the self in love is a powerful way to aid those dark ones as well as the light.  The entire energetic exchange is...one that benefits all while maintaining a ratio dominance towards STO, or perhaps its nneutrality, and I could just be a being who Grounds Out Polarity.

I don't know but the imbalances in this place are highly unusual. The deepest of which are the odd double standards of Love.  Its not something I'm comfortable calling STS energies or darkness.  It boggles me because it is a similar sensation as I feel via Ra.  A lack of Polarity with Polarity.  I...My blood sugar is too low to properly formulate this explanation but I'll try...

It feels as if one were to Lovingly Be, in a manner similar to what I'm doing, but being aware as such of the odd needs for Polarity, uptakes Polarity from a place where none is needed, and uses it to aid towards the destination.  The result is...Truly something our Language lacks words of, is essentially Balance.

But this feels imbalanced.  An Imbalanced Balance.  An Im/balance of Polarity.

I'd simply say Jade mentioned exactly why this is, there is much Faith in what this Material says.  I will not dare tell anyone to drop that faith.  I just ask that we remember to utilize a teaching Ra gave.

See the Creator in All things.  Every 'instance' and 'instant' of 'space' and 'time' are infinite, and contains all things.

Some are here to balance over-Light imbalances, as in to say, to discover Faith can go too far in belief.  Many are here to remember and awaken to not just their brightness, but their dark depths to become aware to begin the work of self healing to implement and ultimately heal Earth.  To be too bright is to burn those 'dark' ones.  They very much set the stage, built it perhaps even.  We owe them (See: Cabal, Orion, Illuminati) Thanks, maybe withhold love for them and give appreciation and understanding instead.  Unless you're of the Warrior occupation or Light Worker who battles Darklight with Brightlight, I'd say the most loving act is in consideration to both sides of the spectrum, you/I and them, us.

Simply by being naturally ourselves with the aid of those behind the scenes will be enough.  We don't need to destroy them, we have Prisons for such...

I know Ra says its ironic to try and love and aid a dark evil murderous being.  It probably is in the light of love/light as it implies allowance of literal Death.  But there are shades of dark from light gray to darker than black.  What is evil?  Would it not have been more appropriate to direct such a desire of the group into harmony towards their desire?

But anyways, you'll see such odd instances of Ra shying away from their own advice in spots and places.

Aaand I have to go pick up the roommate from work.

I think I pierced my frontal lobe, not the veil Aion

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

Higher, or more dense/packedness of Order.

I'm not the only one but, the energetic roots are those of Balanced Love perhaps you could call it?

Don't get me wrong, but pure love is helpful extremely in these times but can be destructive in its own right.

[Minyatur]

Min...I don't blame the Ra Material for my Hell, I however do hold it responsible for giving me the keys to those doors.  However, now that I'm no longer in that Frame of Mind...  I am...I feel...That its worth saying, Hell and suffering dulls with continued existence away from such.  I truly was as you kind of implied, torturing, murdering, and raping myself in my own version of Hell.

And you do not believe in any way that you used Ra and their material as tools to find these keys while being led by your own self?

I do believe within my heart that those of Ra do their upmost in their teach/learning experience to teach in a positive manner trying to respect free will. But I would not dare to say I do not get your point because I have found within my heart deep rooted hatred for them that seemed to have been caused by the ripples of their actions on others. Their light has cast darkness in the course of time. But just as I found this hatred, I found equivalent if not stronger love for them and their honnest and pure intents.

But anyways, you'll see such odd instances of Ra shying away from their own advice in spots and places.

Yeah, for instance they teach that there are no mistakes but do not seem to balance not perceiving mistakes of their own.

[earth_spirit]

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[Parsons]

For some time now... I have felt that this polarity game is very tiresome. I feel as though I am going through the motions to play the game so I do not get "stuck" here. I'm afraid I will fall into the 'sinkhole of indifference'. But how do you make the distinction between that and truly seeking the Law of One? Isn't the Law of One without polarity? Isn't it escapism to sign up for this game and not want to play it anymore?

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

Min...I don't blame the Ra Material for my Hell, I however do hold it responsible for giving me the keys to those doors.  However, now that I'm no longer in that Frame of Mind...  I am...I feel...That its worth saying, Hell and suffering dulls with continued existence away from such.  I truly was as you kind of implied, torturing, murdering, and raping myself in my own version of Hell.

And you do not believe in any way that you used Ra and their material as tools to find these keys while being led by your own self?

I do believe within my heart that those of Ra do their upmost in their teach/learning experience to teach in a positive manner trying to respect free will. But I would not dare to say I do not get your point because I have found within my heart deep rooted hatred for them that seemed to have been caused by the ripples of their actions on others. Their light has cast darkness in the course of time. But just as I found this hatred, I found equivalent if not stronger love for them and their honnest and pure intents.

But anyways, you'll see such odd instances of Ra shying away from their own advice in spots and places.

Yeah, for instance they teach that there are no mistakes but do not seem to balance not perceiving mistakes of their own.

There is no doubt Ra is positive and caring in my mind...but I doubt the purity of their intent as it begins faltering as thev contact goes on.  This might just be due to the poor...quality of purity from Don in his questioning but I feel like they clearly are not 100% pure in this material.  

Not to say it isn't high up there in percentile, and I wouldn't ask them to change that.  I just ponder critically of them much more so now.  I might be harsh.  But as Ra said, One is Enough.

More than One has died for and from this.  One is enough.

I can hold both parties, self and other, responsible here

The Isolation was paradise, for the first year.  Then it was...lonely.

I got interrupted while typing that portion of my post...  I should mention, in aiding both I also dis-aid both sides in trying to perform balanced Singular harmony.for both.

Earth will be positive, that's just the actuality of its future.  The only way to stop that now would involve heavy infringement on the Free Will of HHumanity.  Listen to me...so certain of it when.I don't even know.

I am.very faithful in Collective Humanities capabilities.  I love my species, they love me too.  Its not all sunshine but...The Choice was made collectively.  I'm of the opinion as many others I used to disagree with are.  4D will move quickly probably, we'e enough catalyst in lessons from our very violent past to know Love is the Choice.

Its in 5D I expect this overbalance of Love to turn deadly in a self destructive manner (assuming we're veiled 4D-5D on Earth).  Otherwise, I think we'll transition quickly enough, those who remain on Earth, the loss of the many 3D's in the collective, having moved to another planet
Might damper the efficiency of Wisdom Teach/Learning.

But that might be by design and on purpose to assure Proper learning.

I'm just holding out that Polarity will be discarded as to say...accepted then shed away, and without any roots pushing for that, could get.

Intense in paradigm essence?  This is for the future essentially.  A different way besides the old ways of war and separation.

What am I escaping from by flinging myself into.a supposed Pit of Indifference to Teach Oneness?

The Pit of Indifference is in my mind, better known as the Pit of Indifference/Love.  There is no wrong, this pit just as much aids polarization as its lip and outskirts does.  I choose to be 'in it'.  We all have.  Its here we learn/teach, while outside of it we seek which is a different learn/teaching experience.

Honestly though the pithole does not exist to me.  Indifference is Love and viceversa.  If this Material causes the doom and gloom of entering that pit, you probably should see past the pit.  Who puts an indifferent pit here anyways?  I opt out, there is no pit.  Only the illusion of one.

Its like being scared of pot holes in the road.  You try to avoid them typically, but you still need to keep going.  If it gives you a flat, catalyst.  The pit is a teacher, its not a trap.  But it can easily become one once you fear its presence.

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

To use a rough and dirty example.

We don't mind the saliva in our mouth until its left and become spit.
We don't mind the feces in our bowels (les you have IBS) until its separated from your body.

The problem Parsons is these things aren't problems until we assign/percieve them as such.  I also do not resonate with the laid-out universe described in the Ra Material completely.

I do think.escapism is an appropriate way to view this, if you use it to confront simultaneously that which you are thought to be escaping from...
In this instance, Polarity.

I basically dropped in theory first, everything that created stress and fear and ill selfjudgment in me.

I encourage this too, though some people still need those so its not appropriate to do such for everyone...It just turned out that my nonresonance matched a lot of things that bred the above feelings.

[Minyatur]

Earth will be positive, that's just the actuality of its future.  The only way to stop that now would involve heavy infringement on the Free Will of HHumanity.  Listen to me...so certain of it when.I don't even know.

There's rules but much can be done within them.

1. I see two possibilities, negative entities acknowledged their lost and are using the situation as much as they can while they can.

2. They have a plan to fulfill their goals. Why there is infringement in the first place is because what will decide any outcome of this 3D game is humanity itself and how it becomes polarized as a whole. Both players pour into it their own resonance but I'd say positive entities are somewhat limited in what they can do.

Anyhow I think there will be a decisive moment and that'll be generation shifts. Let's say positive entities succeed into raising the earth's vibration so more higher vibration positively polarized souls do incarnate. So what keeps the negative ones from having prepared for this moment and shift the polarity of these higher vibration positively polarized souls (at incarnation)?

Two 5D positive wanderers ended up polarizing themselves negatively in a mainly love filled world just because they were under a thinner veil than what we got here, I say if I had planned for thousands of years having a freaking veil as a tool, that'd be when I'd strike. Everything prior would've been to prepare for that fated moment.

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To add to the things you've said for once. Had you thought about the fact that from Ra's words, prior to the introduction of the veil there was only the positive polarity. As such positive beings desired within total positive intents to introduce confusion into their experience and from within this confusion was born STS. STS and it's path which was shown to us by a new light which was not known.

[Minyatur]

On a side note, people should not necessarily be too sad for negatively polarized world (not saying it's what'll happen). It needs to happen sometimes (yay! everybody gets a place to live in!) and is nothing of the same nature as this 3D earth.

I think there are many who would agree that an entirely positively universe would be boring too. Like who doesn't like sad songs? emotive songs? colorful songs? passionate songs? Who would rather live in a monotone world where these things won't be experienced.

I may find too much beauty, glory, love and light in all the things after processing them. Makes it hard to want to do something for yourself, whatever it is. Why is solely contemplating so much fulfilling.. for that is the pithole of indifference, selfless contemplation.

[Jade]

The overall point of polarity is to create something that needs to be balanced, something to do. People act in our consensus physical reality, and those actions have consequences. Those consequences force others to act. This is the game: (choice of) action and reaction. Imbalance and rebalance. It's literally what makes the densities go 'round. That's why Ra says there are no mistakes - even if we do make mistakes, it's just something to clean up/"unchoose" later.

76.16 Questioner: Third density, then, it appears, is, compared to the rest of the densities, all of them, nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time and is then for the purpose of this choice.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct. The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is greatly lengthened, as you would use the term. The choice is, as you put it, the work of a moment but is the axis upon which the creation turns.

Now, of course this does all begin in the thought realm. What we believe about our reality is what we perceive before us, and then our actions/reactions spawn from that. What we all desire is a pleasant reality that offers a manageable amount of catalyst and generally harmonious interactions with others. Going "easy" on the catalyst isn't possible - we incarnated into 3D for the pure onslaught of catalyst. However, it is possible to dictate that catalyst and further utilize one's experiences in a more "positive"/desirous manner, if one chooses to begin the path of the adept/magician, which I think most people who post here want whether they realize it consciously or not. This requires choosing to head to one end of the spectrum over the other - the further you go, the more you are able to create your own catalyst. This means, instead of random bad things happening to you or people being mean and upsetting you, that you can learn to further your consciousness through positive catalyst, like, processing your feelings and reactions when people are nice to you, and creating more instances where you get that type of catalyst. Or, you begin to look at your past and see all your previous "negative" experience as now quite ripe areas of learning. This is efficiency of catalyst, this is what dedication to furthering the development of one's consciousness offers.

I do not see polarity as a trap, in fact it indeed has liberated me. I have to admit, before I learned of the LOO, I believe I was already polarized. I spent all of my life in the martyr vibration, sacrificing myself for others over and over to the point where I was very ill every day. I worked a job for awhile that was an intense, high-pressure sales where I had revenue goals and people monitoring my calls to judge my skills at manipulating the customer, and this gave me an ulcer when I was 22. It's just not within me to want to do harm to others or manipulate them emotionally - it never has been. My default was to jump and and scream yes when someone asked for help. The LOO helped me realize that I didn't have to make myself sick to serve others, and in fact that there are higher forms of service than being a doormat. It also gave me some validity because for my whole life my family ostracized me for being "the good one" and "little miss perfect" and for once, I realized that wanting to do good for others was not something to be ashamed of. So yeah, I am biased towards STO, I will admit that wholeheartedly. It's worked for me, especially since I've learned to balance it better. I don't see negativity, I don't dwell on murderers and their hells. I look out my windows and see a constant menagerie of 2D beings to delight my senses. I listen to music and it elevates me. Every day is a new journey into creation, and seeing what games we creators have decided to play.

I'm not trying to brag, and pure bliss and joy isn't a total constant state of my being. But I do believe that dedication to service to others and paying attention to any chakra blockages/catalyst that arise as quickly as you are able offers one benefits, so to speak. Benefits being that the amount of random/'negative' catalyst I get is very little, because I try to stay aware. But, I do believe this does come from dedication, or dogma if you prefer. Every day we are given choices of actions, and in these actions we have a spectrum of decisions to make that will have different ramifications. I try to find the action that is most aligned with unity and love, that is palatable, and perform it. If I don't want to do something, I don't, and I tell people no plenty. But I will almost never consciously act out on a negative emotion towards another. This comes from years being spent as the underling to others who would constantly act out in emotional rages where I was the target but I was not the impetus. So yes, the STO path is about sacrifice. You have to relinquish certain parts of your being to have certain experiences, and to learn how to identify less with the self and more with the all. I never actually got to be a little child in this incarnation - a huge sacrifice, indeed. But I learned so much about... a lot. I was always willing to learn and look forward, and now, willing to let go of beliefs that no longer serve me.


Honestly, I had a very basic understanding of polarity until I started studying the archetypes more. Ra gives lots and lots of information about the "two paths", and how and when and why they divide, and their overall purpose/goal. 

For some time now... I have felt that this polarity game is very tiresome. I feel as though I am going through the motions to play the game so I do not get "stuck" here. I'm afraid I will fall into the 'sinkhole of indifference'. But how do you make the distinction between that and truly seeking the Law of One? Isn't the Law of One without polarity? Isn't it escapism to sign up for this game and not want to play it anymore?

I guess the thing with me is, I don't polarize because I worry about getting stuck, I polarize because I know that it allows me to move more love/light through me and therefore affect more positive vibrations upon the planet. I'm not worried about reincarnating here and having another go, because I would welcome that. This game for me is that I sincerely just want to do good for others and be a good human. The LOO gave me tools to cultivate that desire to a high degree, and the freedom to not focus on pass/fail outcomes.

If you are bored or dissatisfied, I wish you luck in finding out why. If you want to "take a break", I don't think there's much problem in that.

[Jade]

Some are here to balance over-Light imbalances, as in to say, to discover Faith can go too far in belief.

This line hit me again after I finished my post. I just want to say I think this is very true - actually, I think we are all here to balance an overabundance of faith. That's why we incarnated with the veil, to forget our faith. Not that all-encompassing faith in the infinite creator is a bad thing, but I do think it is true that we are here to balance that.

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

Jade, I just hope you know that mine and your choice are really the same thing.

We just live them differently.  It does hurt to be separated and misunderstood but I honestly see the kindness behind your views, I just feel I'm not...I used to be as you were.  I was more introverted though, I would help teachers in school, clean up messy classrooms, let them know if something was amiss.  I would help others to my detriment, I was already snuffed out love-wise before middle school for my difference living with a drunk meth father and a mother who to this day cannot accept blame but puts it on everyone else, and plenty of fighting, sometimes physically and I'd be the brunt of her verbal anger and his physical anger.

I'm a bit less kind essentially.  My version of choice is to help all.  I don't need polarity to perform, just desire and will.

I admit polarity is the Charge to incite more movement in will and desire at becoming...  Well, at Be-coming.

But intensity of intent in desire is the fuel to that charge I discovered personally during my Work In Consciousness.

I'm...not very charged.  I feel Grounded in a neutralizing sense.  The intensity I felt was overwhelming in that when I took.up the Polarity Mantle as an Adept I overpolarized so.heavily I was left in a state of heavy catalyst that I otherwise wasn't prepared for.

I.see no.onslaught though...  Our realities differ there now that I've dropped that Ra Material related belief.  The Universe followed and catalyst now is not onslaught endlessly one thing after another.  It is very kind instead now.

I find it...weird (said the weird guy) that you don't view our choices as equal, because of polarity terms as laid out by this Material.

You've been separated from I in choice in your mind because of Polarity.  I see no separation.  Just forms of energy to play with.

I do not think you.should speak for everyone here in regards to an overabundance of faith.  Generalizing an imbalance isn't proper in my eyes.  I still need to work on faith in myself and others around me.   I need to work on trust just as much, trusting in faith.  I am skeptical and...critical.  i see objectiveness is and can be subjective.

So when our realities differ, and I see the cause.  I don't have faith in such reconciliation.  No trust in...the better good of people I know.  Its easy to have faith in strangers.  its hard to have faith in friends.  For me anyways...

Plus I have parental issues and a wildy distorted idea of trust as I never had anyone to trust.  I still feel that way.  Mommy issues.  Daddy issues.  And all the weird baggage psychological that comes with those.  As I have shared in my other recent thread on 'Transexualism'.

How does my blue ray shine so profoundly in the face of an apparent closed green ray?  I just want you to realize we are the same in choice.  We just have different goals and plans and desires.  But we aren't so different as to deny similarity I'd hope...

As I said, I'm unorthodox.  Emotional, an Empath without control of his emotions, by choice.  To be...thick in it to suffer to better know, take in, and what you call alchemy I think of as...Balancing.  I turn light just as I do darkness, if you'll allow those improper terms for shades of intent filled energies.

As I said, I'm service to One/All.  There is a level of purity I seek in my Truthseeking.  It is looked for in impure ways and will be understood as never being understandable.

I'm operating blind, deaf, and mute metaphorically metaphysically.  Hellen Keller, born same day as me but years earlier did the same thing, literally, physically.  I've taken a less intense version of those lessons I imagine.  I can be beyond wrong, completely incorrect.

Its why you should not follow my words if they do not feel proper, hold true, or resonate.  My path is my path, yours is yours, I think they are the same even as you view them to be different.  I don't think I'm 'ahead' or 'behind', I think we're right next to each other, enjoying our own versions of the Truth, enjoying our own Realities.

We are right next to each other, yet infinitely 'apart'.

We are the same, in different ways.

And there is no pure manner of explaining this in the English language without distortion, misunderstanding, skewed context...  Without Distortion.

Do you think we are not of the same Polarity?

[Aion]

You... Are... Generating... Polarity..............

/facepalm

This is hilarious. You're going to such lengths to explain your lack of polarity and you are literally polarizing in the process. You are charged, your emotions are polarized, you project power, but you can't see this because you are not on the receiving end of your own expressions.

Needless to say, it's amusingly ironic.

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

...

...what does Balance mean to you?

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

Let me rephrase.

Why do you think I don't think I'm Polarizing?

[Aion]

You said that you are 'not very charged', I disagree. I think you are highly charged and highly polarized. You are not neutral from what I see.

[Parsons]

Tanner, what do you think about what I said earlier in the thread? I'm genuinely concerned that I am not polarizing in my current world view / actions and that will matter even if I am a 6th density wanderer.

To be clear, I don't have a strong motivation to help people out in a physical or direct way. Eg, I'm not running out and volunteering at soup kitchens, etc. I will help people out if the opportunity presents itself (eg, someone needs to jump the battery in their car). The only service I feel a strong motivation to provide is to familiarize people with the Law of One that are receptive to such information. Of course, finding someone who is receptive to such information is exceedingly rare. 

My reasoning behind wanting to provide that service is I find it to be the most effective. To borrow a proverb, "Give a man to fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." If I at least nudge them in the right direction and they discover / learn the LOO for themselves, I equate that to 'teaching their spirit to fish'.

Each of those in this group is striving to use, digest, and diversify the information which we are sending this instrument into the channels of the mind/body/spirit complex without distortion. The few whom you will illuminate by sharing your light are far more than enough reason for the greatest possible effort. To serve one is to serve all. Therefore, we offer the question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn. There is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad being are many. Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make. We can speak no more valiantly of your desire to serve.

Ra speaks highly of this path of service, but is it enough to escape the sinkhole of indifference?

[AnthroHeart]

Parsons, I think in 3D we have a certain degree of freedom that's not available in 6D. Because we have the veil, we can do more without violating the Law of Confusion. We don't have to worry about violating anyone's free will here. Or it's not really that hard to live a life that doesn't violate another's free will. In 6D we have to watch ourselves, and every single thought manifests immediately. So we don't have freedom of thought in 6D. So having to repeat 3D isn't so bad.

Of course 5D is the density of rest, so I'd probably rather go there than repeat 3D.

[Aion]

Tanner, what do you think about what I said earlier in the thread? I'm genuinely concerned that I am not polarizing in my current world view / actions and that will matter even if I am a 6th density wanderer.

To be clear, I don't have a strong motivation to help people out in a physical or direct way. Eg, I'm not running out and volunteering at soup kitchens, etc. I will help people out if the opportunity presents itself (eg, someone needs to jump the battery in their car). The only service I feel a strong motivation to provide is to familiarize people with the Law of One that are receptive to such information. Of course, finding someone who is receptive to such information is exceedingly rare. 

My reasoning behind wanting to provide that service is I find it to be the most effective. To borrow a proverb, "Give a man to fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." If I at least nudge them in the right direction and they discover / learn the LOO for themselves, I equate that to 'teaching their spirit to fish'.

Each of those in this group is striving to use, digest, and diversify the information which we are sending this instrument into the channels of the mind/body/spirit complex without distortion. The few whom you will illuminate by sharing your light are far more than enough reason for the greatest possible effort. To serve one is to serve all. Therefore, we offer the question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn. There is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad being are many. Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make. We can speak no more valiantly of your desire to serve.

Ra speaks highly of this path of service, but is it enough to escape the sinkhole of indifference?

I would perhaps bring attention to another part of the quote in response.

"Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make."

To teach, one must discover how people learn. It is enough if it is your intent to serve others with that path and so dedicate yourself to it. However, if you are doing it just because it is the most convenient for you, then you may not be utilizing the full energy of your desire to serve.

[Parsons]

I think I see what you are getting at. So try to cater to each specific person's needs / learning style? Eg, for those who are clearly not likely to read/understand a cryptic / esoteric text such as the Ra Material, (where/when appropriate) attempt to provide the philosophy from the LOO verbally in terms they would understand?

[Aion]

Indeed, because if we understand the heart of the Law of One, imo, it can be found in every aspect of love and life. I think there is oftentimes a habitual need by those seeking to teach to try to 'correct' or in some way 'fill in' what they see to be lacking in the views of those they see the responsibility of teaching this towards. However, if each path is unique, it isn't actually the 'figuring oneself out' that one usually benefits from the most from others, it is when someone helps to lift a burden or obstacle that we otherwise had our attention caught by.

To put it plainly my Dad offered the best example. People don't need help to figure out their beliefs, they do that on their own and with the right space, but they do need help making that space sometimes and as my Dad said, "doing the dishes, cleaning the house, lifting the burdens of the body", so that the mind can be more free.

[Parsons]

I see; so assisting someone else with red/orange ray catalyst so that they might have more time to (potentially) consider higher catalyst.

[Aion]

Questioner: Would you please correct me?

Ra: I am Ra. The indigo center is indeed most important for the work of the adept. However, it cannot, no matter how crystallized, correct to any extent whatsoever imbalances or blockages in other energy centers. They must needs be cleared seriatim from red upwards.

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

You said that you are 'not very charged', I disagree. I think you are highly charged and highly polarized. You are not neutral from what I see.

Ah, I see what happened.

I mean to say, Charged in Neutrality.  I made the very dumb mistake of not differentiating Neutral from Grounded.  I mean Neutral as in to say I am Neutral between Good and Bad.  If you've seen Constantine, the black voodoo guy calls himself Neutral in that he attempts to maintain balance between Light and Dark forces in the Movie.

I meant the term in a similar manner but completely didn't explain at all when putting it right next to 'Grounded' in terms of Charge.  When I say Grounded, I feel like I'm actually neutralizing my charge in place of STO/STS for Neutrality, as in, I'm becoming Neutrally Charged as I Ground myself in STO work and STS concepts.

How that works, I offer only the concept of Im/balance.  To be one thing is to be it's exact opposite too.  To best come close to the concept of any Polarity one will eventually discover that it is its viceversa if not in kinetic manifestation then in potentiation.

I'm also drunk and probably shouldn't be responding at this moment but I'm totally going to.

The Pit of Indifference...  Parsons, you've already done enough to show you're not in it.  You've made a choice, you worry upon your intentions and actions.  You care and Love if only enough to know it.

That alone is enough to be on the outskirts of that sinkhole in my mind in even a STO fashion, as you are also being of STO when you take care of yourself in the name of being healthy to aid others, even if in a selfish light.  STS concepts on the shallow end of the STS scale are what a STO being uses to care for the self, to say no, to silence feelings of negativity.  You can dip your fingers in the darkness if you'll allow that saying, to remain better illuminated yourself.  Just as you're expected to cloth yourself and take care of your personal health sometimes at the expense of others, it's acceptable in that you do so for a reason, a purpose or intent.

And that Intent is the driving factor as to where you're at.

There was a nice little quote I stumbled across today:

"The truth is that you already are what you are seeking."

You seek to be outside of the Sinkhole of Indifference.  I believe you already are

[Minyatur]

@Van

Given what you said, what do you not resonate with in term of polarity as exlained by Ra?