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[Wander-Man]

Hey, Wander-Man!

Well, the thing is... Over time I've grown between different authors. So it's tough to give you one author/teacher and to hope that covers the bases.

For me, I went from Dion Fortune to Alice Bailey, and did not do much with magic until recently, when I started reading about Huna Shamanism through Sergi King.

I like Huna the most, because it is a very ancient practice that has been kept closely held to the Polynesians. There has not been much opportunity for outsiders to "spoil" the original teachings, which are VERY much like the LOO teachings when referring to certain principles. Huna is comprised both of a dark magic and a white magic, so for anyone interested in learning more about Huna, the author Sergi is self-proclaimed to be working for the Light.

I'm not doing much with Magic these days, Wander-Man. I play with crystals and program them when I am in need of something, while also doing visualizations to activate the "Law of Attraction" in my life. I've found that over time, a lot of the other magic aspects are very fringe, and usually assist those who are into very specific agendas.

But if you have an interest in anything that you encounter, I'd be glad to offer opinions if I can help!

Steve

Thanks, Steve. Do you mean these books?

http://www.huna.net/

Are there any of those books you recommend especially?

[Conifer16]

Update: I just a few days ago have sent her a message over Facebook(apparently you can comment on pictures and send messages even if you are not friends) and she answered and a conversation developed and I made her laugh and she said talk to you tomarrow(which could just be a goodbye type thing but could equally be what it usually means) and so I am pretty happy. I have used what I am learning from Seth in his nature of personal reality books about beliefs and how they creat reality. So I now know and belief that I am going to have a chance with her and then one day I got the very strong urge to send a message and even though I felt really reluctant I still did it because it was from inside. Also all I have wanted is too be loved and have now realized that love comes in many guises(not just romantic love) and is all valuable and to be treasured and so will be alright if all that is destined is friendship. anyway just wanted to update this thread with recent happenings.

Thanks,
Conifer16
Adonai Vasu Borragus
May everyone have a grand and wonderful day

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Oh and I have changed a lot since last posting. Most in my understandings of the Law of One so this thread is interesting as I was very different then And less comfortable.

[Nyu]

dude, did you say this girl is only 14? i remember what it was like being 14 and i personally think you're hoping for more adult kind of feelings from her than she is probably ready to even have yet. i'd wait til she is about 16-17 before even worrying about what she might think of you and even then maturity is not certain.. realistically i'd say you've got around 10 more years before a chance of things developing - if you even know her / like her / havent moved on by then (which you probably will have). she probably didnt add you because she didnt know you well enough and was probably thinking "why is this strange boy adding me?". in my opinion dont stress about it, just see her as a potential new friend and accept whatever is meant to happen..

[Conifer16]

Exactly. I am now aiming to be just friends. And like I said I have changed. I am now perfectly happy to be friends. No longer dead set on relationship. And she is about to turn 15.

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That last part of your post. "except whatever is meant to happen" I came to that understanding several months ago. You know just trusting that all things will work out for the best and to just go with the flow and live in the moment. It is very relaxing and I am feeling more happy just being alive then I have in a long time. also as a slight aside I think I did some automatic writing with a comment on a kauilapele's blog(I think the first word is spelled right. I can't even say it) because I started writing and very quickly I was writing a word and then immediately writting the very next word to come into my mind and I wasn't even really paying attention to what I wrote and so by the end I didn't even know if the post made sense or what it was about. I then posted it and actually read it and it made a huge amount of sense and somehow I was able to express my inner thoughts about the subject clearly(which I have trouble doing usually). So I think I might have "channeled" my higher self briefly without consciously meaning to. But who knows. Anyway thanks for reading,

-Conifer16-
Adonai Vasu Borragus

[Conifer16]

Holy crap!! Real life is not a scary place that I fail at.

I have been at my GED program since last Wednesday and have been just fine with all the other teens. I am so relieved! I spent the last several years afraid of social situations and wasn't able to leave my house without a lot of nudging by my mom. Then this and I am great in these situations. Yay! And I am actually able to talk to others now! Yippee and I have been given mainstream recognition of my smarts(meaning not just recognition from my mom) and have been put in the fast track program where we are told that we are doing so well that we are expected to get done in a few weeks and onto collage after that. I didnt need it but it is nice anyway. And I finally have people of like mindedness and mental quickness to speak with who are interested in the same general stuff.(science mostly) and are good readers(a good majority of them). Anyway I am so happy. I have been wilting away with out friendship or relationship and now that I am making friends(not fully there yet) I am like a sun starved sunflower, I was drooping my head and then the cloud cover breaks and I feel the warmth of the sun, I look up and for the first time in ages I smile. don't worry I have smiled alot. It is a metaphorical story. Anyway bye for now... Hahahaha

-Conifer16-
Adonai Vasu Borragus

[Meerie]

...I feel mortified about my post it was cringe worthy... I just wish she would chose to ignore it or accept it rather then not do anything about it... maybe there is hope for me yet.

Not doing anything / not replying / not acknowledging... Get used to it because that's the nature of the female.

ohoh.... I beg to differ! I'd say it is not gender-related. It is just a sign of no interest and that can apply to both male and female.
I am getting reminded of my friend Joe, a small, skinny redhead. He was after the beautiful gorgeous girls, and needless to say, got turned down each time :-(
He now met a nice girl online and they fell in love, she is as small as he, but twice his size . And they are such a cute couple together!
I seriously hope that with upcoming 4D, we will see more relationships based on true greenray love, rather than just for reasons of appearance only. Remember, a persons value is not in his / her face or body-mass-index, the real beauty lies inside

[ƒ❤losopher]

I am getting reminded of my friend Joe, a small, skinny redhead. He was after the beautiful gorgeous girls, and needless to say, got turned down each time :-(

Sorry, but that's rubbish. It all amounts to a little of that.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I am getting reminded of my friend Joe, a small, skinny redhead. He was after the beautiful gorgeous girls, and needless to say, got turned down each time :-(

Sorry, but that's rubbish. It all amounts to a little of that.

I don't think it all amounts to anything in particular. There are an infinite number of potential experiences for us, and we will experience certain situations and certain people when that experience is best suited for our growth. Whether it's rejection or acceptance, loneliness or feeling complete with someone.

[Whitefeather]

About Facebook and Facebook accounts; a two minutes video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz9PUcUN-...re=related

More and more people are talking about these hidden aspects of Facebook.

Be well

[Conifer16]

Just a small thing. I use Facebook, and would like to point out who cares what Facebook does if you don't want private information given to others then don't put it on the Internet. If it is on the internet it is capable of being stolen by others no matter where it is. The whole purpose of the internet is to share information and to communicate with one another. So why rail against Facebook taking away your privacy when the best way to avoid that is to say only what you wish to be online for everyone to potentially see. Personally I don't care. Why all the privacy concerns? Is this not a 4d environment we are entering? Doesnt a 4d environment have complete and open sharing amongst others? So why the privacy concerns? Just would like to point that out. Have a grand moment today(in reference to how there is only the moment, no future date as we see it as of now and no past. I have been living in the moment and now the past feels all dream like If I don't try and remember it.)

-Conifer16-
Adonai Vasu Borragus

[Whitefeather]

Just a small thing. I use Facebook, and would like to point out who cares what Facebook does if you don't want private information given to others then don't put it on the Internet. If it is on the internet it is capable of being stolen by others no matter where it is. The whole purpose of the internet is to share information and to communicate with one another. So why rail against Facebook taking away your privacy when the best way to avoid that is to say only what you wish to be online for everyone to potentially see. Personally I don't care. Why all the privacy concerns? Is this not a 4d environment we are entering?

Doesnt a 4d environment have complete and open sharing amongst others?

-Conifer16-
Adonai Vasu Borragus

Indeed it does not, not between STS and STO and this is the reason why discernment is needed precisely now that we are entering 4D. IN 4D, STS and STO are two separated paths and, it is 'when' our consciousness is still in 3D that we make the choice.

Though I am not the author of the link I mentioned, it offers an opportunity for discernment. This is an opportunity I wanted to share.

L/L

[Odinn]

About Facebook and Facebook accounts; a two minutes video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz9PUcUN-...re=related

More and more people are talking about these hidden aspects of Facebook.

Be well

Fakebook is 3d, really greedy 3d! Just read this article in The Guardian, dated three years ago, and you'll get an idea:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/200...4/facebook

Here's a list of links about the silent side of Facebook:
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...3#pid56063

[ƒ❤losopher]

Sorry, but that's rubbish. It all amounts to a little of that.

I don't think it all amounts to anything in particular. There are an infinite number of potential experiences for us, and we will experience certain situations and certain people when that experience is best suited for our growth. Whether it's rejection or acceptance, loneliness or feeling complete with someone.

Yes, you are quite right. And one such experience can be the realization that it is not your apparent physical shortcomings that defies 'getting' into a relationship with someone objectively attractive. You realize that there is something many women value quite highly in a man so that they prefer being with someone who exudes this quality despite some ethical shortcomings in his character. And finally you realize that 'it all amounts to a little commanding presence.'
You study men possessing it. You adopt their upright poise and see the difference. Women seeking your attention, unsolicitedly flirting with you. Soon you find out that there must be more to it than just confident bearing.

You ponder lengthily what there is to 'a-mount.' After some time you realize that the barrier lies within you. You realize that you have confined your masculinity. You realize that in your fear of the raw powers of your maleness you have built a wall around it. You don't want to hurt, so what can you do? In your cluelessness you look to your femininity. It seems a bit neglected. You begin to love your fortress of masculinity and see cracks appearing in its walls and your femaleness sprouting. You realize that your femininity is quite able and eager to balance out your masculinity if you let her. You love your maleness more and more and more.

And eventually you find out that the beauty your with is also just a human. One day, after a lot more loving your maleness, however, you realize that the 'commandingness' in your presence is just a phantom. There is only presence -- yet a presence ever so alluring in its divine origin.

[Conifer16]

Sorry, but that's rubbish. It all amounts to a little of that.

I don't think it all amounts to anything in particular. There are an infinite number of potential experiences for us, and we will experience certain situations and certain people when that experience is best suited for our growth. Whether it's rejection or acceptance, loneliness or feeling complete with someone.

Yes, you are quite right. And one such experience can be the realization that it is not your apparent physical shortcomings that defies 'getting' into a relationship with someone objectively attractive. You realize that there is something many women value quite highly in a man so that they prefer being with someone who exudes this quality despite some ethical shortcomings in his character. And finally you realize that 'it all amounts to a little commanding presence.'
You study men possessing it. You adopt their upright poise and see the difference. Women seeking your attention, unsolicitedly flirting with you. Soon you find out that there must be more to it than just confident bearing.

You ponder lengthily what there is to 'a-mount.' After some time you realize that the barrier lies within you. You realize that you have confined your masculinity. You realize that in your fear of the raw powers of your maleness you have built a wall around it. You don't want to hurt, so what can you do? In your cluelessness you look to your femininity. It seems a bit neglected. You begin to love your fortress of masculinity and see cracks appearing in its walls and your femaleness sprouting. You realize that your femininity is quite able and eager to balance out your masculinity if you let her. You love your maleness more and more and more.

And eventually you find out that the beauty your with is also just a human. One day, after a lot more loving your maleness, however, you realize that the 'commandingness' in your presence is just a phantom. There is only presence -- yet a presence ever so alluring in its divine origin.

That really resonates with me. Thank you. I have a very active feminin side I feel that my soul has taken the female Path and is learning about the masculine. So on her way to balance. However I am very secure with my being male and feel great affection for my soul. I have also found that I am much more comfortable around girls my age and less so around guys. So your advice is really very helpfull and for me makes a lot of sense. So again, Thank you. I have gotten much more confident in public since starting my GED program.

-Conifer16-
Adonai Vasu Borragus

[Oceania]

facebook is awesome but we're doing away with privacy with it.

[3DMonkey]

Die privacy! You fear mongering root of evil!!

[Wander-Man]

Sorry, but that's rubbish. It all amounts to a little of that.

I don't think it all amounts to anything in particular. There are an infinite number of potential experiences for us, and we will experience certain situations and certain people when that experience is best suited for our growth. Whether it's rejection or acceptance, loneliness or feeling complete with someone.

Yes, you are quite right. And one such experience can be the realization that it is not your apparent physical shortcomings that defies 'getting' into a relationship with someone objectively attractive. You realize that there is something many women value quite highly in a man so that they prefer being with someone who exudes this quality despite some ethical shortcomings in his character. And finally you realize that 'it all amounts to a little commanding presence.'
You study men possessing it. You adopt their upright poise and see the difference. Women seeking your attention, unsolicitedly flirting with you. Soon you find out that there must be more to it than just confident bearing.

You ponder lengthily what there is to 'a-mount.' After some time you realize that the barrier lies within you. You realize that you have confined your masculinity. You realize that in your fear of the raw powers of your maleness you have built a wall around it. You don't want to hurt, so what can you do? In your cluelessness you look to your femininity. It seems a bit neglected. You begin to love your fortress of masculinity and see cracks appearing in its walls and your femaleness sprouting. You realize that your femininity is quite able and eager to balance out your masculinity if you let her. You love your maleness more and more and more.

And eventually you find out that the beauty your with is also just a human. One day, after a lot more loving your maleness, however, you realize that the 'commandingness' in your presence is just a phantom. There is only presence -- yet a presence ever so alluring in its divine origin.

I really like this explanation..deep

[Plenum]

anyway, so I finally got around to this 'facebook' thingy. Apparently its somewhat a popular website? like its more popular than bring4th even!

so, I guess I'll be sending out friend invites in chat or what-not, or you can be pro-active and hussle me instead.

I used a social network years ago called zaadz, and the mechanics seem the same, but I'm a bit rusty, so forgive me if I try to dislike all your photos of cats and the like. (I will invent a dislike button for FB. It will make me rich).

so anyway, I already 'liked' the LLResearch fanpage; hopefully that earns me some good points with Ms Ankh (or Mrs Aaron these days??)

anyway, this is big news!

the plenum has arrived on FB!!!

lol

peace all

[Ankh]

Welcome to year 2013, plenum.

//Ms Ankh.

[Plenum]

Welcome to year 2013, plenum.

//Ms Ankh.

thank you Ankh (brushing off cobwebs from grey hair)

it was quite a long trip through the time machine vortex!

happy to have arrived

[Plenum]

man, facebook takes a bit of modding to make even halfway usable or acceptable to me.

Social Fixer: hide stuff, change functionality. UI stuff

Namerizer: change peoples names on your side. So some complex person who has a complex name with lots of syllables and confusion is just called 'Spaced' in my facebook lol.

both are chrome extensions.

I'm a modder at heart; though coding just frustrates me

[reeay]

lol this is so remarkable Plenz. I am still at the stage of merely sharing photos and silly internet memes and videos... and checking the privacy settings. Also, leaving silly comments on people's posts lol.

[AnthroHeart]

I don't use fb near to its potential. I post status updates and comment on peoples pics that I like. I also share pics that I find interesting. I'm just an average user. Been on a few months. Never play the games either.

[Spaced]

Ey, speaking of facebook, what happened to the treehugger's treehouse group?

[Brittany]

Its creator seems to have deleted it.

[reeay]

I just started a Jung/Law of One study group (for beginners) if anyone here is interested in learning together. Studying Jungian psychology and intersections with LOO.

[Plenum]

facebook is fun and all, and a great way to catchup and keep in touch.

but ultimately, I find it a very closed system.

after all, is not every stranger a friend that you have not introduced yourself to yet?



peace

plus - video ads coming soon to your timeline!!!!

[Conifer16]

........*shakes head*.. I feel like an actor watching his own film. My posts are so embarrassingly hilarious and I just love how they show the level of development I have gone through as a person. I'm 18 now, that girl I was talking about. We became friends. That is all. I haven't actually talked to her in ages upon ages. I like someone new now. I like them a lot. They like me back. We will see what happens. I am using google+ now almost as much as facebook. On a side note, I really like the new update to the facebook app for ipods/iphones. lol *sigh..* life is awesome. :-)

Namaste,
Conifer18 :-)
Live brightly

P.S
I deliberately used simple sentences throughout most of that. :-P

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This might be the longest thread of mine that has ever existed anywhere on the internet. lol

[Plenum]

you need a rename buddy.

CONIFER18

you can legally buy and consume alchohol in Australia. If you lived in Australia, that is ...

This might be the longest thread of mine that has ever existed anywhere on the internet. lol

this is an awesome thread! glad you started it.

I must admit, I have mixed feelings to digital social networks. I used one back in the day (it was more spiritually-oriented), but despite the high ideals things have a way of descending back to the mean (average), and it becomes a popularity contest after a while, despite what everyone protests or says to the contrary

metrics and numbers have an inherent way of doing that (being divisive).

I feel like an actor watching his own film. My posts are so embarrassingly hilarious and I just love how they show the level of development I have gone through as a person.

yah, me too. I look back on my 18 months here on b4th and see some of the inept and inexpert ways that I handled things ... but it was all part of the learning and development, albeit that it was on a public stage.

but I've learnt so much from the people here and what they 'bring' ... that it's brought me to where I am right now. So eternally grateful : d

so yes, life is a public embarassment in itself. I'm sure our higher self is constantly shaking it's head in wonder at the choices we make despite the nudges and inputs it tries to offer

peace brother; you are bright light indeed.

plenum

[Conifer16]

I use the tag "Conifer(whatever my age is) everywhere I go online, and I tried logging in just now with Conifer19. lol I almost can't believe that I joined this forum at 16... Like wow. I am now 19 and that just feels crazy. Things in my life were so very different.

Also, how do I change my Username?