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    #121
    02-22-2013, 10:02 PM
    ruth
    i am sorry that u and your husband suffered in that past life and i am glad u are together now. do u think the two of u are a team that has reincarnated together several times agreeing to play different roles. and do u find a general theme to your relationship , something that u could say is the centerpoint of what the two of u are about ?

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    02-22-2013, 10:18 PM
    I take any past life recollection, either "remembered" in meditation or given to me by psychics, with an enormous grain of salt. I think in most cases such things are more of a distraction than a help, though on occasion remembering the karma you share with another person aids in resolving that karma.

    Upon meeting a certain individual in this life, we shared an instant recollection of one another, his immediate reaction being one of recoil. We both perceived that I had owned him as a slave in a previous life, and had been cold and abusive toward him. Working through that karma and becoming the best of friends was one of the more satisfying experiences I've had in this life. I've met another individual who murdered me in a past life, and in this life he has been one of my primary teachers in honing my psychic skills. Enemies of the past can really make the best of present allies.

    I have vague recollections of being a samurai in feudal Japan, or perhaps a sword maker. Perhaps both in separate lifetimes, as I feel I probably spent several incarnations there. My perceived memories of at least one Japanese lifetime are of having a wife and several children, and spending an entire lifetime unable to properly express my emotions to any of them. Though I loved them to the point it hurt, I was often cold and detached from my loved ones because I feared being perceived as weak by my superiors if I was openly emotional. I died younger than I would have liked, feeling that I had failed as a husband and father, and the spiritual wound caused by this carried through several lifetimes.

    I've had a fleeting glimpse of being a servant girl in what I assume was a Chinese palace. I remember no emotional impressions from this life.

    There is also what I call the Black City- one of the most vivid visions I've ever had, of myself in a huge palace that appeared to be made out of black stone, along with most of the other structures in the area. It was obviously no place on Earth. I was wearing black robes, and at one point stood in front of myself and looked into my own face. I was not human, though I was mostly humanoid in appearance. My eyes were black, and my skin was a greenish shade, with a texture to it that looked a little like lace laid across the skin. Instead of hair I had what looked to be numerous thin antennae. There was an immense sense of power in that place, and it was a great inspiration for several of the stories I've worked on. I wound up developing a whole culture for these beings in this city I had seen in my mind, though I've long since abandoned holding to this "memory" as if it were fact. The images could easily be symbolic, or even simply imagined, yet they inspire deep emotional impressions within me.

    I've had multiple psychics give me all sorts of stories of who I've been, though the closest thing to a famous name that has come up is one woman telling me that there are still swords in museums today that bear my mark. Two readings that particularly struck me were of me being 1. A Vietnamese monk who was betrayed and killed by some people that wanted the land he was on, and 2. some sort of astrologer who spent a mostly solitary life studying the stars. One thing that has corroborated with more than one psychic is that I do not often incarnate female, due to several extremely traumatic experiences suffered during past female incarnations. This resonates with me strongly, and often in this lifetime I have felt like a male trapped in a female's body, though over time I've come to very much enjoy my femininity.

    I have also astounded MANY psychics with the apparent amount of physical trauma I've accumulated over the lifetimes. One woman almost started crying, seeing violent death upon violent death- everything from being stabbed to being mauled by a wild animal. I can only assume this was for karmic reasons- likely my continual returning to the negative path in spite of setting my overall will toward becoming positive. I get the sense I beat my head against the wall for a long time.

    Speaking of violent deaths, I also had a very vivid experience of being a young villager who was tortured to death in what I think was the Vietnam war, judging from the uniforms I saw those around me wearing. I literally began screaming and thrashing about as these memories surged through my head, to the point my husband had to hold me down, and I continually shouted in what sounded like an Asian language. I couldn't understand the words, but I knew I was begging for mercy. The pain was mercifully blocked out as I experienced this, though I could feel the intense well of fear and sorrow in the heart of this person. In the vision I finally relented and told them whatever it was they wanted to hear, and then they continue to torture me until my body gave out and I died. I died with a heart full of fear, hate and pain. I felt cleansed after having this vision, as if it was something I was finally able to forgive and lay to rest.

    Ultimately though, all of the above is just a trivial curiosity in the back of my mind now. I'm more focused on this life and where it is going, and I think I'm doing just fine.
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    02-22-2013, 11:21 PM (This post was last modified: 02-22-2013, 11:24 PM by reeay.)
    Once, I was a translator for this group of Japanese tourists who were visiting Hawaii for a 'psychic fair' (didn't want to do it but my professor begged me to do it). So the group wanted to get a reading from this one lady, who was a known psychic locally. Every time she gave a past life reading, the condition was the same, 'You were Wumba-wamba, a shaman from the Amazon' or 'You were Umbala Wumba, an African chief' lol. Kept thinking, this lady is a con... what BS... At the end of the day, the psychic offered me a translation job bc she said she KNOWS that I am highly competent lol. Guess she couldn't psychically intuit that I thought her work performance was crap :p Declined.

    But I agree with this being fun and maybe significant for some, and not all that necessary to focus on to go where we need to go.

    (02-22-2013, 08:16 PM)Spaced Wrote: Interesting that you mention personal myth. I have become obsessed with mythology recently after dreaming about the Greek goddess Persephone. I have come to realize that the reason I have been drawn to this myth is that I can relate to all of the characters. I have been the victim Persephone, I have been the grieving parent Demeter and I have been the rapist Hades. In a way, this myth has become my own.

    Speaking of Persephone, I thought the mythology was similar to a polynesian deity called Hina, and found this lady's website about archetypes...

    http://home.earthlink.net/~maxmcdowell/quad4web.html
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    #124
    02-23-2013, 12:47 AM
    (02-22-2013, 10:02 PM)norral Wrote: ruth
    i am sorry that u and your husband suffered in that past life and i am glad u are together now. do u think the two of u are a team that has reincarnated together several times agreeing to play different roles. and do u find a general theme to your relationship , something that u could say is the centerpoint of what the two of u are about ?

    norral Heart

    No worries about past life suffering norral. It really isn't significant, except to perhaps explain why I like to have PLENTY of groceries stocked up. LOL.

    Yes, I do believe that we are a team and have been together several times. There is one other lifetime from which we both have very specific and vivid memories, and we believe that we first met in that lifetime on the land we now own in OK.

    I have had similar past life memories with a couple of other people in my life. And always there has been a fairly specific purpose for the recall. I did once have a hypnotist attempt a past life regression but it failed.

    The main thing my husband and I have worked on this time through is to really trust each other. And to love unconditionally - each other and all others. Really, every moment holds a lesson for each of us, whether we recall any past lives or not.
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    02-23-2013, 04:13 AM (This post was last modified: 02-23-2013, 04:22 AM by Ankh.)
    Knowing what happened in previous incarnations *can* act as a teaching tool, in my experience and understanding. The memory of what happened in previous life time can aid this current incarnation in a way of having an even more vivid and intensive learning experience in the now. But there are some problems with that.

    My memories come to me automatically, by themselves. For some time they have caused me, and I guess that they still do, discomfort because of not understanding what to do with them. What I understand now, is that they provide a very intensive teaching tool, a very intensive one.

    The problem that I see with having memories is that it is very easy to get lost in the details and emotions of previous incarnations for instance, instead of drinking that very essence in them, which is learning. And our current incarnation is already so rich in intensive catalysts, that putting on top of it, the previous ones, one can perhaps get the picture of sometimes being overwhelmed, which I have been and still am many times.

    What happens, when I start to remember, is that when starting to speak or when seeing/meeting certain entities, the memories of having had previous life experiences with them, are beginning to flow over me. I begin to re-live these memories, again. It doesn't happen that often though.

    Anyway, I will tell a little memory now, and how these memories can aid or how they can be used in this current incarnation as a teaching tool.

    I met a certain entity, and there it was - I remembered being a priest in Egypt. I was tall, good looking and had what could be called charm or charisma. I had also sharp intellect and could read most of the people well, by observing them. But I didn't use these "talents" well, and I was an arrogant a-hole so to speak. I supressed and controlled my sexuality for instance, in a way of when seeing that somebody wanted me, I almost never gave them that pleasure, but enjoyed manipulating them and having power over them. I climbed up very high in the hierarchy of the society I was living in, and I enjoyed those wordly things and the power I had.

    Then something happened. I met a woman. In the beginning she tried to play this game with me, having me "chasing" or courting her. I understood right from the start what she was doing, and never gave her that pleasure. But then something else happened. She came to *me*. She was in love with me, and she was vulnerable. Oh boy, was she beautiful! She had long, black hair, and shiny, dark eyes. Those eyes were shining with love, that genuine love. And she opened up to me, still fearing what I would do - I could see it, but she was so beautiful being that vulnerable and open in that situation. I can still see it in my mind. I chose to love her.

    After unions with her, I was transformed. And in the social arena my heart started to open up, more and more. I stopped playing all those games, and I stopped being a dick. I actually started to love and serve people.

    That incarnation has many more details. Some things are very vivid, and some come simply as understandings or "knowings".

    That incarnation has been serving as a teaching tool for me as to show me in a more vivid and more intensive way, the imbalances and distortions that I still have. It was, and is, simply showing me that the path that I want to take goes through love, through an open heart, but that I still struggle with such and such difficulties.

    Remembering an incarnation, in my experience, is like watching a movie about the self. The stuff that I don't want to see in that movie is that same stuff that I still struggle with, in this life time.

    Memories are my teaching tools of things that are in need of balance in this life time, but are very intensive and difficult tools, because I oftentimes lose myself in emotions and judgements and details of previous experiences, instead of seeing the core of it, of what is important.

    For instance, I don't know what happened to me and to her in that incarnation. I remember that there were some kind of social gatherings, and that I had to tell her to "control herself", because she was showing her love too much, openly, but our relationship had to be kept secret, or somewhat secret. She was higher than me in social rank, like being a part of the "royal" family, and we were not meant to be a couple. And these are the kind of details that I'm talking about here. One can lose itself in many unimportant things. What is important is that lesson. In my opinion.

    My experience is also that all those lessons that one has had in past incarnations and has not yet learned, if they are important, they are here in this incarnation too, so there is no reason of looking in the past. But, if these memories are used well, they can show you yourself, in a more clear way, bringing that clarity about the self. But the past life memories can at the same time act as a huge distraction, from the lessons to be learned now, and from this present moment, and at the same time they indeed provide an even more intensive learning experience.

    But this is just my experience and understanding of this. Each has its own.

    Spaced, my heart goes out to you, brother. Thank you for sharing. Heart
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    #126
    02-23-2013, 07:32 AM
    Dear Ruth

    u are a wonderful example of unconditional love to us all. i am always inspired by your kindness and reading your posts does make me a kinder person in my own life. my own personal path is not about unconditional love the theme of my life is justice and standing up for justice and whats right. everyone has their own unique story and mission and every one contributes to the whole.

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    02-23-2013, 04:29 PM
    (02-23-2013, 07:32 AM)norral Wrote: Dear Ruth

    u are a wonderful example of unconditional love to us all. i am always inspired by your kindness and reading your posts does make me a kinder person in my own life. my own personal path is not about unconditional love the theme of my life is justice and standing up for justice and whats right. everyone has their own unique story and mission and every one contributes to the whole.

    norral Heart

    Dearest brother norral - follow your own path! I love you and appreciate your passion!

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    02-23-2013, 10:38 PM (This post was last modified: 02-23-2013, 10:39 PM by kainous.)
    In my past "Earthly" life (of which I have been shown that I've only had one recently), I was a red-headed girl in Spain in around the 1600's, during the period of the Inquisition. The veil was thinner for me in that life, and I naturally seemed to know a lot about herbs, faith-healing, and sometimes some future knowledge (more like intuited knowledge based on observations). After it became known that I was healing a few of the people in the town that I lived, I was quickly labeled a witch. However, instead of persecution, my parents opted for excommunication and moved far away from civilization.

    My parents were so distraught that something which seemed so good was labeled so evil. Although there were many times after we moved that they attempted to coerce me to be more "normal," I was mostly so upset that I'd hurt my family so bad, and I blamed myself for causing them so much harm.

    One day soon thereafter, when I went to the lake near where we had moved, I walked into the lake, and I just knew that I could breathe underwater. So I walked into the water there, continuing to breathe for awhile, then let my self-disappointment take over and just stopped the "magic" which let me breathe underwater. So I drowned myself.

    On review of my life, I could see that it truly hurt my parents more that after they were kicked out of the church and the town of people that they loved, they then lost their daughter because of me as well. It took a lot of healing for me to forgive myself for what I'd done to them, and I recognized the karmic bondage that I'd created.

    So, I then spent some time as a creation in a world surrounded by light as a pink rounded-gumby looking creature, flying around with my blue friend whom I'd been in a teacher/student relationship between densities during a previous incarnation.

    My purpose of the 3D incarnation was to come here to see the progress of humanity at that time. I was to view how well people accepted or rejected that which was slightly out of their normalcy. Therefore, I decided to return nearer to the harvest, for the purposes of resolving my karmic burden to my parents. They agreed to take on a slightly open-minded but fundamentalist mindset, and my brother (with his own lessons to be learned from the family) agreed to join 11.5 years after.

    Again, I was to enter as a non-conformant member of society (gay and highly spiritual). However, I had to experience the severe depression and rejection (even before coming out), as well as perceived rejection by God (who continually told me otherwise), and a flat out rejection of myself. This depression and rejection were to come to 3 peaks in which suicide was attempted, then rejected at the last minute, by realizations of the selfishness behind it.

    After a first initiation moment (of MANY), I no longer feared death. I began to notice an extremely quick ability to learn Spanish, herb-healing, and other ancient healing arts. This began to occur as my father was beginning to experience abnormalities that doctors could not explain or cure (things like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, calcifications, etc.). Despite that I could provide help to numerous people, he would deny any help from me. This served as a catalyst about the free-will behind healing. It lead me to learn more about karma, spirituality, and eventually the reconciliation of my faith with the others (resolution of paradoxes), and in reincarnation. I then "saw" her. I began seeing the little red-head in flashes. Then viewing glimpses of the life before. I then began to dream about events of that incarnation, and about life between incarnations.

    I have seen glimpses of earlier ones, but they are not here, and do not follow the same rules per se. I know that I have spent some time as a slave before, and during that time, I wrongly fantasized about killing "an" enslaver of my friends and family. For that I believe that I've been in negative places before, but I'm unsure, because it seemed to have fallen away long before this incarnation, despite that I seem to understand and read those of a negative polarity as easily as positive polarity. My higher-self reminds me of the parable of the lost son.

    Then, I found Edgar Cayce, and then the LOO, and it all seems to make sense to me now.
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    #129
    02-23-2013, 10:51 PM
    The previous 22 posts have been merged into this thread from a separate thread.

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    02-27-2013, 11:56 AM
    I'm curious about something with regards to past lives. The overwhelming majority in here have posted with past 3d lives which is interesting because if many of us are so called wanderers, wouldn't more people have regressive memories of the higher density level to which they came from instead of appearing as if they were repeating 3d to learn what's needed for graduation?
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    02-27-2013, 12:55 PM
    I have in deep sound-aided meditation (at the peak spiritual cycle) discovered a past life on another planet. But I won't go into that except to say the 3rd density life form was not like Earth's (which contributed to my alienation here). I believe it was also more negatively oriented than this.

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    02-27-2013, 01:28 PM
    (02-27-2013, 11:56 AM)Jeremy Wrote: I'm curious about something with regards to past lives. The overwhelming majority in here have posted with past 3d lives which is interesting because if many of us are so called wanderers, wouldn't more people have regressive memories of the higher density level to which they came from instead of appearing as if they were repeating 3d to learn what's needed for graduation?

    I think the issue is different.

    Who choose the so called past life to be shown to the awareness? The Higher Self.

    What kind of value is there to get a past life of higher densities? Probably not much unless the entity is totally unaware of being a wanderer.

    However there is much value to discover a 3D past life because you can easily relate to it, and understand a little better your overall incarnative pattern. The challenges are usually the same. Or you may get a clue about why you have such or such distortion, which then allow you to undistort it and heal it.

    The Higher Self will use this opportunity to show you the thing(s) that it deems the most helpful for you. Unless an entity is totally depressed and in need of confort, the higher self will most probably not choose to show a higher density past life of extreme harmony.
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    02-27-2013, 01:54 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2013, 01:56 PM by Jeremy.)
    (02-27-2013, 01:28 PM)Vasistha Wrote:
    (02-27-2013, 11:56 AM)Jeremy Wrote: I'm curious about something with regards to past lives. The overwhelming majority in here have posted with past 3d lives which is interesting because if many of us are so called wanderers, wouldn't more people have regressive memories of the higher density level to which they came from instead of appearing as if they were repeating 3d to learn what's needed for graduation?

    I think the issue is different.

    Who choose the so called past life to be shown to the awareness? The Higher Self.

    What kind of value is there to get a past life of higher densities? Probably not much unless the entity is totally unaware of being a wanderer.

    However there is much value to discover a 3D past life because you can easily relate to it, and understand a little better your overall incarnative pattern. The challenges are usually the same. Or you may get a clue about why you have such or such distortion, which then allow you to undistort it and heal it.

    The Higher Self will use this opportunity to show you the thing(s) that it deems the most helpful for you. Unless an entity is totally depressed and in need of confort, the higher self will most probably not choose to show a higher density past life of extreme harmony.

    I can accept that but why then are these 3d lives so applicable to 3d earth lives and not an earth like 3d experience or alternate 3d life? I can't remember which federation member said it but they said their 3d planet was much more harmonious so I could deduce that alternative 3d planets weren't exactly like earths 3d experience which is where I'm a little confused.

    All of these past lives are indicative of this planetary spheres history rather than a alternate earth like sphere. Why the near absolutely resemblance to this earth rather than an alternate if some are in fact wanderers?

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    02-27-2013, 02:39 PM
    (02-27-2013, 11:56 AM)Jeremy Wrote: I'm curious about something with regards to past lives. The overwhelming majority in here have posted with past 3d lives which is interesting because if many of us are so called wanderers, wouldn't more people have regressive memories of the higher density level to which they came from instead of appearing as if they were repeating 3d to learn what's needed for graduation?

    Some wanderers have been on the Earth for a very long time. I feel like I've been incarnating here for at least 10000 years, before that who knows? I have a gut feeling that I lived on Mars before Earth, and in meditation I was told that my soul originated in the Lyra system. Could I be considered a wanderer? I'm not sure, I never felt totally comfortable with the label.

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    02-27-2013, 03:26 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2013, 03:29 PM by Vasistha.)
    (02-27-2013, 01:54 PM)Jeremy Wrote: All of these past lives are indicative of this planetary spheres history rather than a alternate earth like sphere. Why the near absolutely resemblance to this earth rather than an alternate if some are in fact wanderers?

    As explained before, to not create more 'shock' to the mind. Other planetary spheres implies other physical vehicles, and this might be too much for your little self. If you have no 'framework' to relate to, you will be shocked and the experience won't do you any good in term of healing, but rather will have the contrary effect, which is trauma. Remember the Higher self is trying to give opportunity to the little self for healing; so it will work the most in a framework that you are familiar with.

    Overall, what is important is your incarnative pattern, and your overall earth incarnation pattern. There is little to no value going beyond that, unless certain special case.

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    02-27-2013, 04:13 PM (This post was last modified: 05-23-2014, 08:31 PM by Adonai One.)
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    02-27-2013, 04:36 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2013, 04:37 PM by reeay.)
    I don't particularly see the 'big deal' in knowing my own past life because I have enough material to work with, in the here and now, thanks to a 3D lifetime full of distortions and catalysts.

    I observe some people attributing their present 'time' catalyst to past life incarnations where they experienced distress and trauma. Then the seeking stops there. The responsibility is then attributed to 'past life' so in the present life there is no accountability or sense of agency to make necessary effort to work with distortions. Ah yes, the response - but I can't do much about it. So to me past life, whether in 3D or higher density for wanderers, makes no sense. More likely, similar patterns are occurring simultaneously in this incarnation which is more proximal to our lived experience.

    Distortions/experiences are more accessible in the here and now. Knowing past lives is a good explanatory model but then I have no way of confirming or disconfirming the accuracy of this intuition or memory. The best that may be done is to look into how one 'remembers' and what inner processes are put into motion (e.g., imageries that trigger a sense of anger or sadness) and understand how that works in the here and now.

    We have all that we need (in terms of resources and material to work with) in the here and now.
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    02-27-2013, 04:36 PM
    Indeed I have studied political movements and they tend to be of mixed character in a democratic framework. The undemocratic aggressive entity like Nazi Germany, Mongol Empire or Soviet Union tends to the negative. What is characteristic is also enslavement by an elite hierarchy, the CSA had some such tendencies as well (as Ra also mentions).

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    02-27-2013, 04:47 PM
    democracy means mob rule lol

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    02-27-2013, 04:59 PM
    I believe by studying the French or Russian revolutions you may reach a better understanding of "mob rule". What is unique to democracy is the absence of coercion that exists in dictatorship or oligarchy, and the so-called mob can also be dissatisfied with conditions in a democratic system.

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    02-27-2013, 06:37 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2013, 06:39 PM by Parsons.)
    rie Wrote:I observe some people attributing their present 'time' catalyst to past life incarnations where they experienced distress and trauma. Then the seeking stops there. The responsibility is then attributed to 'past life' so in the present life there is no accountability or sense of agency to make necessary effort to work with distortions.

    It's funny, I actually believe what is said in your first statement. However, I don't agree with your response as though it is the only choice.

    Allow me to give you a personal example in which I made a different choice when attributing current catalyst to a past life:

    I was obsessed with post apocalyptic societies, zombies and Halloween for the better part of my life. I didn't really know why since I didn't grow up on horror movies or post apocalyptic movies or anything like that and lived a sheltered childhood. Yet whenever a movie, game, or book came my way I enjoyed it on an obsessive level, even fantasizing about being in whatever situation was portrayed. Before I awoke, I purchased quite a few firearms and in retrospect I think this obsession may have factored in to my decision at the time. I thought it was unrelated until piecing the puzzle together later, but I also loved the Cowboy Bebop movie.

    Later, after awakening and starting to learn about my past lives, I stumbled upon the probability that I experienced a 3rd density incarnation during the fall of Atlantis or one of it's major wars. The details are fuzzy but I think my past self survived the initial onslaught and experienced life in a post-apocalyptic world.

    After connecting the dots to my former obsession and inquired about origin of Halloween, I quite abruptly lost my obsession. It was no longer a stumbling block and is still not to this day.

    So, I could have dismissed this catalyst rather than accepted it and moved past it, but I would probably still be experiencing catalyst related to that. In my opinion, it helped me more purely experience the NOW by removing a stumbling block which was distracting my attention to the past.

    I have heard mention of entities experiencing much more harsh catalyst until they remembered and acknowledged their past life. It seems to me like catalyst set for by your higher self which has a condition of being removed when remembered.
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    (02-27-2013, 06:37 PM)Parsons Wrote: It's funny, I actually believe what is said in your first statement. However, I don't agree with your response as though it is the only choice.

    I didn't say this was the only choice, I said 'some' people choose to attribute responsibility to the past.
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    02-27-2013, 08:13 PM
    My mistake then, I read too much in to your words.

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    (02-27-2013, 06:43 PM)TheEternal Wrote: I did a bunch of past life work over a year ago that I had been working with for a couple years...

    Did you go to someone local to you, or someone you knew? I'd like to learn a little about my past few lives here.
    I feel like I'm missing some context for this life's catalyst - like I'm seeing the tail-end result of important events set into motion before here and now.

    Where did you start, Eternal?

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    There seems to be a couple of people who went through past life regressions discussed in this thread and others:

    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2626

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    02-28-2013, 04:16 PM
    (02-28-2013, 03:51 PM)TheEternal Wrote:
    (02-28-2013, 03:04 PM)kdsii Wrote:
    (02-27-2013, 06:43 PM)TheEternal Wrote: I did a bunch of past life work over a year ago that I had been working with for a couple years...

    Did you go to someone local to you, or someone you knew? I'd like to learn a little about my past few lives here.
    I feel like I'm missing some context for this life's catalyst - like I'm seeing the tail-end result of important events set into motion before here and now.

    Where did you start, Eternal?

    I started with my memories, I didnt have anyone tell me most of my past life experiences. There were a few that were very vivid, and so I meditated on those lives and the connected revealed themselves in very real ways. There was a period where I struggled to not get caught in taking on those old identities. A good practice to try is to go back as far as you can in your memory, back to when you were born, and then continue pushing backwards in to your memory.

    Same here, TheEternal. What I "know" of past lives has come by way of very vivid memories that often come spontaneously when triggered by an event or a location, or by coming into contact with a person I recognize from another time period.
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    (02-27-2013, 11:56 AM)Jeremy Wrote: I'm curious about something with regards to past lives. The overwhelming majority in here have posted with past 3d lives which is interesting because if many of us are so called wanderers, wouldn't more people have regressive memories of the higher density level to which they came from instead of appearing as if they were repeating 3d to learn what's needed for graduation?

    I remember both 3D on another planet, and other densities. And:

    (02-27-2013, 01:54 PM)Jeremy Wrote: I can accept that but why then are these 3d lives so applicable to 3d earth lives and not an earth like 3d experience or alternate 3d life? I can't remember which federation member said it but they said their 3d planet was much more harmonious so I could deduce that alternative 3d planets weren't exactly like earths 3d experience which is where I'm a little confused.

    All of these past lives are indicative of this planetary spheres history rather than a alternate earth like sphere. Why the near absolutely resemblance to this earth rather than an alternate if some are in fact wanderers?

    There is, in my thinking and experience, no value of learning from these memories. The 3D experiences were different than here, so the lessons (although the same in the bigger scheme, i.e. learning ways of love) are not understandable/applicable to this current incarnation. And my theory is that, since our mind already contains so much jumble, why overload it with more things that have no direct connection to the current incarnation? So, Higher Selves are probably choosing, in most cases, to not to give access to remembrance of the incarnations which are not useful to the current experience.

    In regards to memories of higher densities - the lessons there are different from both this Earth and this density - so again, why overload the mind with more unnecessary information? But Ra did mention this though:

    Ra, 85:16 Wrote:In the case of Wanderers there are half-forgotten overlays of other lessons and other densities.

    Which I understand as, the Wanderer does sometimes remember these lessons too. But again, just before saying the above, Ra did say:

    Ra Wrote:We may suggest at all times the constant remembrance of the density from which each adept desires to move. This density learns the lessons of love.
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    (02-22-2013, 10:18 PM)Brittany Lynn Wrote: I think in most cases such things are more of a distraction than a help, though on occasion remembering the karma you share with another person aids in resolving that karma.

    Most of my past life memories were snapshots in time that acutely illustrated a karmic pattern with myself or others. The whole reason I was able to access the memory at all was because I was working on resolving karma. I asked to understand the dynamic so I could heal it, and in my search for answers, the glimpse into the past life surfaced.

    In all cases, it wasn't for kicks, but part of a therapeutic healing process.

    (02-22-2013, 10:18 PM)Brittany Lynn Wrote: Upon meeting a certain individual in this life, we shared an instant recollection of one another, his immediate reaction being one of recoil. We both perceived that I had owned him as a slave in a previous life, and had been cold and abusive toward him. Working through that karma and becoming the best of friends was one of the more satisfying experiences I've had in this life. I've met another individual who murdered me in a past life, and in this life he has been one of my primary teachers in honing my psychic skills. Enemies of the past can really make the best of present allies.

    Those are great stories! I too had intense karmic connections with people I'm close to in this life; the memories helped understand and heal.
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