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    Thread: 1993.05.08 how do you visualise Energy??


    Plenum (Offline)

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    #1
    06-17-2013, 05:53 PM
    someone mentioned dragonball-z a while ago, and so this is somewhat appropriate Tongue

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    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0508.aspx

    D: Before I move with any of my questions, does anybody else want to query further about that?

    For the purposes of exploring some of my own perceptions here, I’m going to ask a few questions having to do with the aura and the chakra system (inaudible). Within our physical mind/body/spirit complex—and I would appreciate if you feel I am moving with that shielding you just spoke of, I would like you to know that, and I also understand that if there are things that are best left for me to further study I will accept that as your answering.

    The first question I have is that researcher have [divided] our aura and chakra system into seven layers for the purpose of labeling, into which resemble our concept of consciousness and light moving into physical manifestation. The chakras, then, have these seven layers which have been defined many times by many researchers. If I’m correct, the reality is that these layers, in fact, really reach out toward infinity, but in the limitation of our logos it holds us to viewing only the seven layers or concentrating on the seven layers, since our concentration within third density lies within clearing the first three layers to allow the universal light to flow from the seventh layer inwards. Is there purpose to exploring beyond the seven layers which would then prove useful in aiding in our healing techniques, or is this a diversion or unhelpful to the purposes of our third-density experience?


    begin Q'uo

    I am Q’uo. My sister, the subjective nature of a healer’s individual method of perception create for that one healer the needs and requirements of that healer’s work. One healer might find the need for the grasp of a system of visualizing which involves only seven colors in seven simple bands. Another healer might find that the seven times seven, as you mentioned, of the bodies, each color existing in a band of ever finer material, one for each chakra, to be that visualization which makes that healer feel able to heal and therefore this is necessary information.

    In effect, as long as the healer has a consistent and compelling individual method of visualizing the movement of light this system of visualization is virtually and functionally accurate. We are not attempting to be obscure but are saying that almost any consistent method of visualizing the passage of energy will work for the one which has healing gifts and the desire to manifest these gifts. The healing ability is not raised by these visualizations or managed or controlled in their nature because of this system of visualization, rather the healing energy is channeled through the instrument, and what occurs as the healer does its work is that the healer discovers a way of visualizing the procession of this light in motion or this energy in such and such a way which does not interfere with the healing energy’s own intelligent movement.

    The goal here is for the healer to become transparent to this energy so that it is completely calm and is functioning as conscious catalyst. However, in order that the mind of the healer be stayed and comforted some method or system of visualizing the traduction of this energy is necessary. Therefore, we urge that each healer—however modest or great the healing gift, each is a healer—that each healer find that level of detail and informative embroidery which is wholly sufficient and satisfactory for the self, knowing that the purpose of this visualization structure is to so secure and quiet the instincts of reason and so sweeten and make cooperative the nature that the infinite energy of the one Creator may flow freely and intelligently to do its work.

    end Q'uo

    - -

    my own method was 'taught' to me in a dream sequence. I only share for the purposes of 'illustration', and how one 'system of visualisation' might work.

    diagram:

    [Image: TZzCJdH.jpg]

    where the 'numbers' represent the various chakras. ie 1=red, 2=orange 3=yellow energy centre etc etc

    you may notice that it is not vertical!! being a visualisation or control scheme means that it doesn't need to match the physical representation of the thing. All the is needed is a 'map'.

    it was explained to me that this 'map' was set out as thus:

    1) chakras 1, 2, and 3 representing the 'lower triad' of energies
    2) chakras 4, 5, and 6 representating the upper triad
    3) chakra 7 from which all movements of energies can be directed, when the mental map has been thoroughly 'connected' with the 'real' energetic system.

    when this 'mental map' has been integrated (for me that is lol, everyone's map can be different), the movement of energy happens as easily as thinking you want to move your hand, or to type a certain key on the keyboard. It just 'happens'. The mind is connected to the physical at that stage. And so it is with this internal map (or so I've been told lol).

    anyway, everyone has a different way of 'experiencing energy'. Others are very 'visual'; I am not so; it is more diagrammatic and x-ray for me.

    anyway, it is a cool thing that has dropped into my life in the past couple of months, although the precursors have been present for more than a year now (looking back on how it developed).

    peace, fellow seekers.

    plenum
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    #2
    06-18-2013, 07:36 PM
    Amazing Plenum thank you for drawing me to this article.
    THis quote particulary resonated with me yesterday and will invovle many more meditations. .
    "the nature of actual consciousness is so plastic and so unaffected by the laws of motion that they can adapt to any set of expectations and can move intelligently within the sensing entity to fill in any blanks, as it were, that the system pulled to one had left out."

    IN relation to your comments thank you I am interested to mediate on this new technique, latley focus for me has been completely on balancing(state of bliss comes naturaly now during/afterwards) this is via Vertical Approach. Mental map provides a much different way to contemplate and another learning option for more catalyst!

    (06-17-2013, 05:53 PM)plenum Wrote: someone mentioned dragonball-z a while ago, and so this is somewhat appropriate Tongue

    - -

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0508.aspx

    D: Before I move with any of my questions, does anybody else want to query further about that?

    For the purposes of exploring some of my own perceptions here, I’m going to ask a few questions having to do with the aura and the chakra system (inaudible). Within our physical mind/body/spirit complex—and I would appreciate if you feel I am moving with that shielding you just spoke of, I would like you to know that, and I also understand that if there are things that are best left for me to further study I will accept that as your answering.

    The first question I have is that researcher have [divided] our aura and chakra system into seven layers for the purpose of labeling, into which resemble our concept of consciousness and light moving into physical manifestation. The chakras, then, have these seven layers which have been defined many times by many researchers. If I’m correct, the reality is that these layers, in fact, really reach out toward infinity, but in the limitation of our logos it holds us to viewing only the seven layers or concentrating on the seven layers, since our concentration within third density lies within clearing the first three layers to allow the universal light to flow from the seventh layer inwards. Is there purpose to exploring beyond the seven layers which would then prove useful in aiding in our healing techniques, or is this a diversion or unhelpful to the purposes of our third-density experience?


    begin Q'uo

    I am Q’uo. My sister, the subjective nature of a healer’s individual method of perception create for that one healer the needs and requirements of that healer’s work. One healer might find the need for the grasp of a system of visualizing which involves only seven colors in seven simple bands. Another healer might find that the seven times seven, as you mentioned, of the bodies, each color existing in a band of ever finer material, one for each chakra, to be that visualization which makes that healer feel able to heal and therefore this is necessary information.

    In effect, as long as the healer has a consistent and compelling individual method of visualizing the movement of light this system of visualization is virtually and functionally accurate. We are not attempting to be obscure but are saying that almost any consistent method of visualizing the passage of energy will work for the one which has healing gifts and the desire to manifest these gifts. The healing ability is not raised by these visualizations or managed or controlled in their nature because of this system of visualization, rather the healing energy is channeled through the instrument, and what occurs as the healer does its work is that the healer discovers a way of visualizing the procession of this light in motion or this energy in such and such a way which does not interfere with the healing energy’s own intelligent movement.

    The goal here is for the healer to become transparent to this energy so that it is completely calm and is functioning as conscious catalyst. However, in order that the mind of the healer be stayed and comforted some method or system of visualizing the traduction of this energy is necessary. Therefore, we urge that each healer—however modest or great the healing gift, each is a healer—that each healer find that level of detail and informative embroidery which is wholly sufficient and satisfactory for the self, knowing that the purpose of this visualization structure is to so secure and quiet the instincts of reason and so sweeten and make cooperative the nature that the infinite energy of the one Creator may flow freely and intelligently to do its work.

    end Q'uo

    - -

    my own method was 'taught' to me in a dream sequence. I only share for the purposes of 'illustration', and how one 'system of visualisation' might work.

    diagram:

    [Image: TZzCJdH.jpg]

    where the 'numbers' represent the various chakras. ie 1=red, 2=orange 3=yellow energy centre etc etc

    you may notice that it is not vertical!! being a visualisation or control scheme means that it doesn't need to match the physical representation of the thing. All the is needed is a 'map'.

    it was explained to me that this 'map' was set out as thus:

    1) chakras 1, 2, and 3 representing the 'lower triad' of energies
    2) chakras 4, 5, and 6 representating the upper triad
    3) chakra 7 from which all movements of energies can be directed, when the mental map has been thoroughly 'connected' with the 'real' energetic system.

    when this 'mental map' has been integrated (for me that is lol, everyone's map can be different), the movement of energy happens as easily as thinking you want to move your hand, or to type a certain key on the keyboard. It just 'happens'. The mind is connected to the physical at that stage. And so it is with this internal map (or so I've been told lol).

    anyway, everyone has a different way of 'experiencing energy'. Others are very 'visual'; I am not so; it is more diagrammatic and x-ray for me.

    anyway, it is a cool thing that has dropped into my life in the past couple of months, although the precursors have been present for more than a year now (looking back on how it developed).

    peace, fellow seekers.

    plenum

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    #3
    06-18-2013, 09:35 PM
    When I attempt distance healing or on-hand healing, I imagine green light that looks like a soft mist for healing. And blue light of the same consistency for soothing of pain. And I will usually cloak the hurt area in varying thicknesses of this light in alternating bands of green and blue. Recently a friend spilled hot coffee on her left forearm. She went to the hospital for second degree burns. When I learned of this I offered to try distance healing for her. She agreed and I did not tell her when I was going to do it. I requested, to the general universe, to be able to feel her pain represented on my arm. I suddenly did feel as such (who knows if it was actually her pain and not just my mind in a sort of placebo affect?) and applied green light and then blue light. I imagined it sinking in softly to her arm and then repeated the process several times. I then asked that the universe use my body as a conduit for further healing to flow to her. I asked her if she felt any different. She said that the burning sensation was gone and her arm felt much better. I asked when it started feeling like that and she told me that it did around the same time that I started the first visualization. So yeah, I visualize healing energy in greens and blues. And it would seem to work.

    Namaste,
    Conifer18 :-)

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    #4
    06-18-2013, 09:39 PM
    I am confused by a certain aspect of Q'uo's answer in the original post. The confusion is that i do not understand how the seven chakras, or their seven layers, have anything to do with the healing information which Q'uo speaks of.
    I invite anybody to clear up my confusion.

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    #5
    06-19-2013, 04:35 AM
    Through this device called the Brain. That I place in this place called the Environment.

    But more specifically, what bandwith of energy are you referring to?

    May I assume you are referring to the weak electro-magentic force (willpower driven magic) instead of say. Radiowaves (which I also see through the device called "a radio" and so forth).

    If we are talking about Prana/Chi/Mana/Emotions/Etc area of the Weak-EM then I visualize it through a complex system of energies, currents, subsidiary systems, centers, desires, manifestations, beings, paraller personalities and so forth. In the end result to get a good visualization you would have to:

    Read Barbara ann Brennan Hands of Light / Light Emerging for some of the finer points in written form.

    Watch Naruto for some of the pressure points and accurate systems from start on up.

    Then imagine a endless fractal beginning from where you sit in all directions and ending in "the void" which you can actually go to the other side of. And that the person you see is the interactions of you and that person until you reach "the void" (destiny). If you jump to "the void" you can see all the potential interactions between now and "the big crunch" at the end of time but you cant decode it short of short bursts here and there which enables you to see "soul level" data.

    So. Add those together and you can have an idea of how I visualize. I see aura/chakra/energy-grid/intent/etc levels active or inactive as I need to prefer to see them for optimal interaction with my lifeline.

    So how do I visualize it? However I need to visualize it deary.

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    06-21-2013, 09:35 PM
    I'm of the Dragonball Z camp aha
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    08-17-2013, 03:47 PM
    It seems Quo is saying that the technique is not really important, rather the faith of the healer and the person being healed. Once we develop this faith and power of will we can bring about changes in reality through thought, the technique gives the focus point of this concentration/will power to the healer.
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    08-17-2013, 04:57 PM
    I go by feeling. I don't see the energy. It feels like a pressure in my heart and indigo chakras. I've felt it in my solar plexus before as well, which at the time worried me because Ra says that in negative entities the solar plexus is extremely compact. I couldn't tell whether I am radiating or absorbing. It sometimes feels like I am absorbing energy, even when I am a radiant being. I don't worry about that any longer. I know after this life, there will be things I wished I had done differently, particularly when I didn't demonstrate love. In my life review there are only a few things I will dread experiencing. The pain I caused other animals. I don't think I caused people any physical pain. I've never attacked anyone. I am generally loving of others.

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    08-18-2013, 01:40 AM
    I visualize it as required by; "faith of the healer and the person being healed"

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    08-21-2013, 08:30 PM (This post was last modified: 08-21-2013, 08:30 PM by Adonai One.)
    I recommend just setting an intention of being able to see the energy as it is and meditating on said intention whether it be through a mantra, sigil or otherwise. It may take many months for it to kick in for the budding practictioner... but it will certainly be worth it.

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    11-19-2013, 02:19 AM
    During meditation, I see energy exchanged between my Higher Power (Who is the Creator) and myself. It appears as green dotted lines moving between us, green like the computer screens in "The Matrix." The between part is the force that flows and is shared among all things. E=MCsquared. The photons interacting with all the others is the squared. I try to recall that energy is love.
    On a physical level, I see energy as a giant Hershey bar.

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