What if it is true?

[Xplosiw]

I don't know, brother. This is only my belief. As I answered to Richard, Gaia will be fully 4D functional 2011/2012, not us. To fully begin 4D I think that everyone that didn't make the Harvest will have to die, in order to not break the Free Will. It is however stated that transition has allready begun. For me it means that those who made to 4D are incarnating now in dual bodies. That is the first step. 3D--->3/4D (dual bodies). The second one cannot occur until all 3D entities that didn't make the Harvest are dead (off natural causes). Then there will only be 3/4D left, and even still there will be slow progress of births of fully 4D entities. I don't think that year 2727 (just to take as an example) there will be mass births of fully 4D children.

Ahh, now I got it! I thank you for explaining this scenario, since it really resonates with me aswell, and makes perfectly sense. We shall wait and see what happens!

[Nabil Naser]

I wrote this post before all that has been happening in North Africa and the Middle East.

To be honest, I have always felt that the change will come from that area. I believe this because of the religious books that have suggested that such events will begin in that area.

I think that many of those intelligent entities that have shared with us have hinted at the same.

I remember more than one hint about the effect of technology and computers in the coming change.
I also remember a great number of sources telling us to look to what we consider "holy books", for hints as to what is about to happen.

I believe that we have entered the last phase of the transformation from a confused planet, to a united planet.

Parts of the views that some of us have held must be removed from our consciousness. This will not happen over night, but it will happen never the less.

The planet earth is awakening. We, as human being, have decided to give up the shackles and the prisons that have held us hostage for so long.

The problem is that the jailers will not give up easily.

The only way that we can graduate to the next stage is for us to stand together, and to remember that we are one.

If we remember that the creator is within all, then we will respect and have mercy on all.

This will provide all the guidance that we seek to begin the new world of love and peace.

[Tenet Nosce]

Just my two cents here...

Thanks for jumping in!

I believe that the date 2012 itself is more of a signpost. Sort of a suggestion about when human mass consciousness will make a switch, with no exact date or event in mind.

Yes, I have been wondering about this much myself. The reason I came to this forum was to discuss some of the more paradoxical considerations of a discrete transition in Post-harvest continuity of consciousness.

It seems to me that the channels who offer information on the transformation process freely, which is not all because describing certain events can instill fear, mostly agree that there will be an event which brings our world together. This event, to an unawakened and unaware person, may seem devastating.

As regards the Ra channel, I am of the opinion that the whole "earth changes" thread came from the group, and was not originally intended by Ra to be part of the communication. Look here in Session One of the Law of One:

Ra: In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

Ra: May we enunciate this law in more detail?

Questioner: No.

Ra: I am Ra. Is there another query at this time?

Questioner: Can you comment on the coming planetary changes in our physical reality? [Noise of cassette tape being flipped.]

I personally believe this will manifest in the nature of war. As humanity, we will get one last bold look at what we choose not to be. As the negative forces of humanity are fighting, we as beings of light will be able to witness this and come together in a strong wave of desire for peace. As war breaks out, it will be the ultimate catalyst to bring us all together as a race, in our minds and in our hearts. When we as humans are vibrating together, for love and for peace, the transformation will take place.

What kind of war? How "bad" do you suppose it is going to get? And when is the climax of this war? Has your view changed since you first posted this?

We should not be scared. We should not apply negative labels to ANYTHING, including war. We can use this as a tool to help bring others to the light, to help bring the transformation. Follow your heart and you will be where you need to be, experiencing what you need to experience, helping those who need your help.

We share a similar view:

And when asked directly, or when an opportunity presents itself, I am very upfront that eating animals is wrong, because I believe it is, and it would be a disservice and a lie to say otherwise, just as you wouldn't say "war isn't wrong", would you?

I would say that what I have observed about war is that it does not lead to peace. Then I would ask what they have observed in their own experience.

War can't be "wrong" because it is birthed out of the very idea of wrongness. We are right. You are wrong. Boom, boom, you're dead! "Wrong" is the problem, and war is the offered solution.

As for being scared, I really don't see what would be the point. The universe attends to my needs in ways that I cannot explain, nor do I need to explain, to others. As far as my body is concerned, I simply state that I leave it in the most peaceful, loving, joyful manner possible, given the circumstances at the time. That's good enough for me!

As for how exactly the switch will happen, I understand this is a widely debated topic. I personally believe that it is something that CAN happen in our incarnated lifetime, to an extent. Why else would we all be preparing for physical changes in our body? Why else would we be having a so-called "dual-body experience"? I understand most people's guides, including my own, encourage certain behaviors and habits that will help them to more easily handle the changes that are coming physically. Now, whether we'll be full 4d beings of light and everything in our reality will instantly be different, I personally doubt that, but I do believe we'll start the changes.

I am not too sure about physical changes in the body, but I absolutely see something going on in my mind. Of what sort of physical changes do you speak? And as for guides... I fired mine long ago. They kept giving me conflicting advice and I figured I could do at least as well without them. I grew tired of looking for the wolf in sheep's clothing, if you know what I mean.

Peace and love to you all. I hardly ever post, but I am an frequent visitor of these forums and love what I see here.

Peace and love to you. Thanks for posting, and please continue to post as you feel so moved. I very frequently write with a mind toward others that may be reading my posts, but not commenting on them.