11-23-2011, 10:09 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-24-2011, 12:21 AM by TheFifty9Sound.)
One thing I'm fascinated with is the miracle of Our Lady of Fatima in Portugal in 1917. For those of you who don't know the story, you can read all about it here, (Wikipedia), but here is a quick run down.
On May 13, 1917, three young cousins were visited by a woman of almost pure light whilst they were shepherding some sheep under a tree. The entity appeared to them again each subsequent month around the same time and encouraged the children to do acts of penance, which resulted in borderline mutilation, and to pray the rosary every day. Furthermore, the entity gave the children 3 secrets which I'll get to in a second.
The entity promised that on October 13, a miracle would occur so that all would become believers. On this day 70,000 people arrived at the sight of the apparitions and an apparent "Miracle of the Sun" was witnessed. The sun did some crazy things like shoot out all different colours, "dance" across the sky and spin like a wheel, but it was reported only around half of those who had gathered could see the miracle.
At this point, it was also prophesied that a great light in the sky would precede a second great war, and on January 25, 1938, the biggest aurora borealis occurred in 200+ years.
Of the three secrets, the first two were revealed. I'm a little sketchy on the details - I think they were given to the Vatican and then released, the first being a vision -
"Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror."
The second, how to save souls and convert everyone to Christianity-
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illuminated by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."
Then apparently, the third secret the children were given was supposed to be revealed in 1960, according to the entity's wishes. However the church decided to keep it secret until 2000, and even then, there was much debate as to whether or not the information released was the real, or the whole thing. It reads as follows..
"After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!' And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, Religious men and women going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, Religious men and women, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God."
What do you guys make of all this? It's difficult to deny the supernatural nature of the event if at least 35,000 saw the "miracle" occur, and if the Catholic church took it as serious as they did. Do you think this was an Orion type contact? Perhaps a Confederation contact that was sent askew? Why the consecration of Russia? Do you think the third secret revealed by the church was the real deal, and if so, why hide it for 40 years longer than was requested by divine authority? What do you think it all means?
If anything, I find it fun to think about.
On May 13, 1917, three young cousins were visited by a woman of almost pure light whilst they were shepherding some sheep under a tree. The entity appeared to them again each subsequent month around the same time and encouraged the children to do acts of penance, which resulted in borderline mutilation, and to pray the rosary every day. Furthermore, the entity gave the children 3 secrets which I'll get to in a second.
The entity promised that on October 13, a miracle would occur so that all would become believers. On this day 70,000 people arrived at the sight of the apparitions and an apparent "Miracle of the Sun" was witnessed. The sun did some crazy things like shoot out all different colours, "dance" across the sky and spin like a wheel, but it was reported only around half of those who had gathered could see the miracle.
At this point, it was also prophesied that a great light in the sky would precede a second great war, and on January 25, 1938, the biggest aurora borealis occurred in 200+ years.
Of the three secrets, the first two were revealed. I'm a little sketchy on the details - I think they were given to the Vatican and then released, the first being a vision -
"Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror."
The second, how to save souls and convert everyone to Christianity-
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illuminated by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."
Then apparently, the third secret the children were given was supposed to be revealed in 1960, according to the entity's wishes. However the church decided to keep it secret until 2000, and even then, there was much debate as to whether or not the information released was the real, or the whole thing. It reads as follows..
"After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!' And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, Religious men and women going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, Religious men and women, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God."
What do you guys make of all this? It's difficult to deny the supernatural nature of the event if at least 35,000 saw the "miracle" occur, and if the Catholic church took it as serious as they did. Do you think this was an Orion type contact? Perhaps a Confederation contact that was sent askew? Why the consecration of Russia? Do you think the third secret revealed by the church was the real deal, and if so, why hide it for 40 years longer than was requested by divine authority? What do you think it all means?
If anything, I find it fun to think about.