On Lemuria

[Plenum]

there has been some recent talk of Atlantis in the chatroom, and I thought it would be appropriate to give some more attention towards Lemuria, as they are often paired, and yet one civilisation gets most of the attention.

From Ra:

Don asks about these two ancient Civilisations:

10.15 Questioner: [I] was wondering about the advent of the civilization called Atlantis and Lemuria, the way these civilizations occurred, and where did they come from [inaudible] civilizations?

Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of this work. The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities.

and the Lemurians were apparently not living in a high civilisation like later Atlantis, but they were spiritually advanced.

They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions.

when was the time of Lemuria?

The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago.

and then, much like Atlantis, it's land was washed beneath the oceans. Although not due to war.

It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own.

The survivors then populated North America, South America, and Russia, and those indigenous tribes seemed to have borne the legacy of spiritual wisdom, and an understanding of the land.

They set out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you have come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities.

and the Lemurians (and hence their descendents as well) were drawn from a galaxy called Deneb.

Like the other incarnates of this cycle, they came from elsewhere. However, these particular entities were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions. This planet was from the galaxy Deneb.

The Denebs also populated the Chinese race here:

21.28 There was some advancement among those of Deneb who had chosen to incarnate as a body in what you would call China.

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plenty of people here have memories of Atlantis, any of Lemurian life?

[zvonimir]

some info on Lemurian civilization can be found scatered in many different books by Richard Ingalese and what i am now reading in Alice Baileys books which are channeled from some tibetan master Djwhal Khul.
he mentions Lemurian and Atlantean civilisation much to compare issues of health with present civilization which he names Aryan.

excerpt from:Treatise on the seven rays book 4

Note: In the fourth kingdom, the human it is the energy of the fourth ray which, cooperating with the first ray, eventually brings synthesis. There is a close relation between the highest centre (the head centre), and that at the base of the spine. This fourth type of energy thus expresses itself in cooperation with the first type because we are still Atlantean in our polarisation, and that civilisation was the fourth in order. It is very largely the work done in our fifth civilisation, our present Aryan race, which will, in cooperation with the fifth principle of the mind, bring a shift into a higher level of consciousness. This will produce a harmonising of all the centres through an act of the will, intellectually and intelligently applied, with the objective of producing harmony. This point warrants thought.

he also states that a new group called The Legion is operating on earth now (some perhaps SMC? but they can be a new theme on forum.


Things are not well and humanity and the Planetary life are not well. This, the Hierarchy knows, and is working for the amelioration of the conditions. When the throes of the "planetary influenza" are over (and the patient will not die), then investigation can be made and effort produced which can prevent a recurrence. At present, all that can be done is to keep the patient quiet and also keep the fever down. This is the work of the New Group of World Servers and the intelligent men of goodwill. Their name is Legion.

if you wish plenum i can dig out thAt info on lemuria and pass it here

[zvonimir]

from : The history and power of mind ;Richard Ingalese ( no clue in book from where does the source of info comes)

During the third period of evolution, man lived upon the continent known as Lemuria. A continent lying in the Pacific Ocean, Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean. Its Northern portion was much in the present location of Australia, the Philippines, and the Islands of the Southern Pacific; all of which constitute the remnants of that continent now sunken beneath the Seas. That periods occur in which there is a sinking of certain continents, and a rising of others, is as well known to Physicists as to Occultists. In Lemuria man passed from his lowest state of animal existence into what we may call a more rational or human state. His development during this time is substantially shown in the history of primitive man. Some of the egos, outstripping the others, succeeded in reaching adept-ship along certain lines, but the great mass of the people lived sensuous and sensual lives. There was very little spirituality manifested by the race during this period, and the perversion of natural laws and forces became marked toward its close.

The most notable event which occurred on that continent, immediately prior to the cataclysm which swept it beneath the waters, was the establishment of colonies in India. The colonists consisted of Masters, the Adepts and the cream of the race. It was these colonists who built the rock temples of Elephanta and the other great temples of India— those temples in which mysticism seems to have had its earlier home; and where, upon their walls, are painted the strange old symbols, in colors, that indicate the history and the growth of man.

Those were the souls who gave to India its riches in literature and philosophy, and established the mighty empires which even tradition has forgotten. But it was the degenerate descendants of these colonists who spread Northward and Westward, and populated first Asia, and later, Europe.

After the continent of Lemuria had passed away, then came the fourth period, with man's field of activity in Atlantis. Atlantis extended from the West Indies to the coast of Central and Northern Africa, as we know from the investigations of the British Government, which spent many years, and large sums of money, in determining the extent of the sunken continent; and it was here that civilization proceeded with tremendous strides. All the accumulated knowledge of the other periods was stored in the minds of those who had been the Le-murians, and were then incarnating as Atlanteans. As they acquired greater and greater knowledge, they not only reached a point in mechanical development far beyond anything that we have reached at the present day, but they also took up the study of Occultism, which became common among the people.

By that time the great Masters had retired from physical contact with men, and the, Adepts had taken their places as direct teachers of the people. They moved among men, and were the kings and rulers, the law-givers and inventors; in fact, they were the inspirers of the race up to the time it reached its highest point of development in that period.


Then the continent became divided into five great kingdoms, and in each of these there were lodges of Adepts. At the height of Atlantis' glory, once more the people turned to sensual abandonment, and the Adepts withdrew into Retreats with their But the misuse of Occult forces brought its re-action, as it always does, and, as Plato tells us, Atlantis suddenly became submerged. You remember that when he went to Egypt he was informed that the last remnants of Atlantis had disappeared about five thousand years prior to his visit; and also that the priests had records of the old continent, as well as of their own country, which extended back thousands of years. These records were kept by the Occultists who were priests in the time of Plato, and are still kept in triplicate; one copy has been placed in each of the three great repositories situated on separate continents.

Before Atlantis went down those of the inhabitants who had preserved their purity and who were trying to lead upright lives, were taken by the Adepts out of the country. Those living in the Western Empires were colonized in Central and South America. In Central America that rare civilization which preceded our own was founded, and was the duplicate in every respect of the one formerly established in India. The degenerate descendants from the Central American civilization emigrated to North and South America and populated them.

The degeneracy of these aboriginal Americans was due to the fact that at this time in that Fourth Period the undeveloped souls of the At-lanteans were incarnating in those bodies; for it was with the Atlanteans as it had been with the Le-murians, the strongest souls came first and became the pioneers. They bore the heaviest burdens and thus prepared the way for the less developed souls who had not the strength to do the work that their elder brothers had done. And it should not be forgotten that the history of the Lemurians and the Atlanteans is but the history of ourselves. Our strongest and bravest souls came forward to start the Fifth Period onward in its evolution, as even a cursory reading of general history will disclose, and they have reappeared from time to time to manifest their energies in the several lines of human achievement, in order to teach, help and direct the course of events.

From the Eastern Empires of Atlantis the advanced souls went into Africa and laid the foundation of what is known now as the Egyptian Empire.

And this brings us to the Fifth Period, in which Occultism was again taught popularly and openly among the people. A study of Egyptian history reveals that during its entire period there were Occultists —Magicians they were called—who could produce great phenomena. They were teachers of the people and were the priests and law-givers; they were the friends of kings and were consulted whenever there was sickness or national calamity. These teachers were the Adepts who came in contact with the people.

In the Fifth Period, which is the present one, the descendants of the colony which remained in India, having reached the height of its prosperity and development, passed Westward and founded the Assyrian and Babylonian Empires. There again the Adepts moved among men. In both sacred and profane history of those times we find that the Magi were able to cure all manner of diseases and to manipulate the laws of nature. Passing upward from Babylon and Syria to the Mediterranean on the one side and through Egypt to the Mediterranean on the other, we find that the great remnants of the Third and Fourth Periods were merged and blended in the Fifth Period in the Phoenician, the Grecian, the Carthaginian and the Roman peoples.

This is not a statement of occult history in full; but is merely the barest outline in order to show you how Occultism has been presented in the past, and how it has been preserved for us.

The culmination of what is known as the Dark Age, in this period of evolution, came in the nineteenth century, for at that time the world reached its lowest point in materialism, and from now the tendency will continue to be upward toward Spirituality. A few Occultists believe that the time has passed when there is a necessity for guarding these secrets with such jealous care, and believe that the world is ready to receive more of these truths than formerly. Then, too, many persons are making discoveries along these lines and are ignorantly misusing the forces they are learning to use. So it has been decided to teach the people something about these forces and how they can and should be used, in the hope of averting, if possible, the fate of the Lemurians and Atlanteans

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it seems that info on Lemuria is from :

One of the most elaborate accounts of lost continents was given by the later theosophical author William Scott-Elliot. The English theosophist received his knowledge from Charles Webster Leadbeater, who communicated with the Theosophical Masters by "astral clairvoyance".[10] In 1896 he published The Story of Atlantis, followed in 1904 by The Lost Lemuria, in which he included a map of the continent of Lemuria as stretching from the east coast of Africa across the Indian and the Pacific Oceans.[11]

Lemuria entered the lexicon of the Occult through the works of Helena Blavatsky, who claimed to have been shown an ancient, pre-Atlantean Book of Dzyan by the Mahatmas. Lemuria is mentioned in an 1882 Mahatma Letters to A.P. Sinnett.[8] According to L. Sprague de Camp, Blavatsky's concept of Lemuria was influenced by other contemporaneous writers on the theme of Lost Continents, notably Ignatius L. Donnelly, American cult leader Thomas Lake Harris and the French writer Louis Jacolliot.[9]

[Patrick]

Interesting to see this from another perspective. It does not resonate with me very much, but it's really interesting none the less.

Thanks

[1109]

Are you familiar with the Expanding Earth theory?

http://youtu.be/7kL7qDeI05U

There is, according to this theory, no "missing continent". I believe that the entities of Mu lived on some coastal land or island in asia that suffered some natural disaster after which they spread out. Lemuria has been disproven, both by tectonic plate theory and by expanding earth theory, but that doesn't mean that the entities we call Mu never existed.

[BrownEye]

plenty of people here have memories of Atlantis, any of Lemurian life?

I have memory of Lemuria and none of Atlantis. I remember that I was comfortable with caves. I think Atlantis was concurrent, along with primitives. I would describe myself as more treehugger, Atlantans as elitist, and the primitives as very ghetto.

[Unbound]

I am not sure if it's Lemurian (when it came to me that was the strong impression) but I have a distinct memory of living in a large, ivory white city full of gardens living as an alchemist.

[Plenum]

Are you familiar with the Expanding Earth theory?

http://youtu.be/7kL7qDeI05U

yes, I saw that vid a few years ago. Most interesting!

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I have memory of Lemuria and none of Atlantis. I remember that I was comfortable with caves. I think Atlantis was concurrent, along with primitives. I would describe myself as more treehugger, Atlantans as elitist, and the primitives as very ghetto.

that's a very neat description! very in tune and harmonious with the planet

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I am not sure if it's Lemurian (when it came to me that was the strong impression) but I have a distinct memory of living in a large, ivory white city full of gardens living as an alchemist.

The Alchemist of our Times.

[Unbound]

I will materialize, I assure you, and I will reveal to the world how to do it.

[David Junior]

What Tanner is on about is the 5th sub"time/space"density as all the houses are built from white marble according to Horus and friends from this heavenly density.

[David Junior]

He isnt totally correct as there is no land under the poles just ice, I will say though that there is a pure iron tetrahedron lying at the bottom of the north pole, Why its there i will leave to imagination of the readers.

[Parsons]

Forgive my OCD as it is not important, but I'm not sure if you were serious about Deneb "galaxy" reference. I believe Ra were referring to the Deneb solar system which is our relatively close neighbor (2600 light years).

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I will materialize, I assure you, and I will reveal to the world how to do it.

Care to expand on this? Is this a quote?

[Unbound]

Forgive my OCD as it is not important, but I'm not sure if you were serious about Deneb "galaxy" reference. I believe Ra were referring to the Deneb solar system which is our relatively close neighbor (2600 light years).

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I will materialize, I assure you, and I will reveal to the world how to do it.

Care to expand on this? Is this a quote?

What I believe is my "personal legend".

[Plenum]

Forgive my OCD as it is not important, but I'm not sure if you were serious about Deneb "galaxy" reference. I believe Ra were referring to the Deneb solar system which is our relatively close neighbor (2600 light years).

Thanks Parsons. I think you're spot on there. I should have translated Ra's 'galaxy' reference to 'solar system' in my explanation, so that it was more clear in our frame of reference what was being expressed.

I think sometimes the word "Logos" is also used in the more general sense a lot in Ra's communications. Sometimes I have to do a double-take on whether the "Logos' they are referring to is the central sun (of the Milky Way), or a sub-logos, like a single sun (as in the Logos at the centre of a solar system).

but cheers again for the correction/clarification

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and 2600 light years still sounds like a lot!!

[Spaced]

I had this experience last year that I felt it was related to a memory of Lemuria:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=7475

[AnthroHeart]

Oh Plenum, you changed your avatar from the cartoon sunflower.

[Nicholas]

Totally procrastinating on Lilou Mace video interviews at the moment. This one is awesome!

[Bluebell]

plenty of people here have memories of Atlantis, any of Lemurian life?

i've always liked Lemurian tales more.

[zvonimir]

http://www.anandgholap.net/

book Story of Atlantis and the Lost Lemuria can give more details to those interested and many other informations about races -sub races

[Patrick]

http://www.anandgholap.net/

book Story of Atlantis and the Lost Lemuria can give more details to those interested and many other informations about races -sub races

Hey, thank you very much for that link.  There is overall some great info over there.