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    Bring4th Bring4th Community Olio [Shower question] Why do we have to fight the urge to do bad things?

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    Aion (Offline)

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    #31
    12-11-2015, 09:28 PM
    (12-11-2015, 07:56 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 07:44 PM)Aion Wrote: I consider meditation to be focus.

    I ordered a meditation CD called Insight. They have another one called Focus.

    I thought Insight would be better for meditation to seek inwards. I thought Focus was if you're playing chess or an active sport.

    I see what you mean, I could see the one (Focus) as enhancing the ability to focus and one (Insight) which enhances the inner 'guide' of the focus. Thus the meditations are continuing all the time with different elements and properties.

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    #32
    12-11-2015, 09:30 PM
    (12-11-2015, 08:43 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 08:04 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 07:58 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 07:44 PM)Aion Wrote: There is an idea I encountered from a Buddhist which went 'washing the dishes to wash the dishes'. The suggestion there being to be focused upon what is immediately in front of you, to focus entirely on whichever task you are set on whether that is abtract, metaphysical or concrete, physical.

    So, I found that meditating is actually a natural method of mental and emotional balancing and release which is a self-aware method of 'internal grooming' if you will. What you groom yourself towards depends on the nature of your focus/meditations.

    I'd like to incorporate a similar, mindfulness based routine. I would like to have it be part of my day-to-day routine. I think that my mind makes it a problem when it's something that I do in a room for a specified amount of time. I probably have to trick my mind into thinking that it's no different from what I'm normally doing. I just didn't like that weird, withdrawal-like feeling. I would like to avoid something like that as much as possible. Or at least the implication that it entails that meditation is like some kind of drug for me.

    Note: There are a lot of awkward I-statements in this reply! Lol.

    I combine it with a physical activity, that is, stretching, walking, breathing. So for me, I don't really think 'I'm going to meditate now', I think, 'in what way am I meditating right now?'. It is a subtle difference but meaningful I think.  

    Maybe consider the withdrawal isn't a matter of being away from meditation but more that there is some part of you which yearns to make that deeper exploration? I think it's like if you never clean your house it gets messier and messier. The mind and emotions are the same way.

    Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. I'll try to consider that. Thanks.

    Always nice to be able to put down my thoughts and try to makes them cohesive so we both benefit aha
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    #33
    12-11-2015, 11:01 PM
    (12-11-2015, 09:30 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 08:43 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 08:04 PM)Aion Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 07:58 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (12-11-2015, 07:44 PM)Aion Wrote: There is an idea I encountered from a Buddhist which went 'washing the dishes to wash the dishes'. The suggestion there being to be focused upon what is immediately in front of you, to focus entirely on whichever task you are set on whether that is abtract, metaphysical or concrete, physical.

    So, I found that meditating is actually a natural method of mental and emotional balancing and release which is a self-aware method of 'internal grooming' if you will. What you groom yourself towards depends on the nature of your focus/meditations.

    I'd like to incorporate a similar, mindfulness based routine. I would like to have it be part of my day-to-day routine. I think that my mind makes it a problem when it's something that I do in a room for a specified amount of time. I probably have to trick my mind into thinking that it's no different from what I'm normally doing. I just didn't like that weird, withdrawal-like feeling. I would like to avoid something like that as much as possible. Or at least the implication that it entails that meditation is like some kind of drug for me.

    Note: There are a lot of awkward I-statements in this reply! Lol.

    I combine it with a physical activity, that is, stretching, walking, breathing. So for me, I don't really think 'I'm going to meditate now', I think, 'in what way am I meditating right now?'. It is a subtle difference but meaningful I think.  

    Maybe consider the withdrawal isn't a matter of being away from meditation but more that there is some part of you which yearns to make that deeper exploration? I think it's like if you never clean your house it gets messier and messier. The mind and emotions are the same way.

    Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. I'll try to consider that. Thanks.

    Always nice to be able to put down my thoughts and try to makes them cohesive so we both benefit aha

    Haha. That's also why journaling works so well. Even if you don't necessarily read what you wrote. It helps organize your thoughts.

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    Aion (Offline)

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    #34
    12-12-2015, 12:18 PM
    I've never been able to journal it seems. It seems to be the interaction with others, the need to explain precisely which helps. By myself my thoughts just stay crazy if I write them aha
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    #35
    12-12-2015, 10:54 PM
    (12-12-2015, 12:18 PM)Aion Wrote: I've never been able to journal it seems. It seems to be the interaction with others, the need to explain precisely which helps. By myself my thoughts just stay crazy if I write them aha

    For me, the magic formula would be: written record of what was said + having said it to someone else. So yeah, I think that interaction is a big part of it.

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    #36
    01-02-2016, 06:52 AM
    So, let me get this straight, as this is such a new idea to my evil robotic human-simulacrum synthoidal program-o-soul-- we're supposed to fight the bad-urge-thing?!  This is... a good thing?!  And to think, all this time I-- oops.  Blush Well, back to the drawing board.

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    #37
    01-02-2016, 10:40 PM
    Send the impulses to the significator, while still maintaining the urge to shower.

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