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    Thread: Dealing with catalysts


    JoshC (Offline)

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    #1
    03-28-2010, 02:30 PM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2010, 02:31 PM by JoshC.)
    Ok so I'mma preface my question with a little story to show where I'm coming from.

    Every weekend or two, my friends and I smoke hookah (tobacco) around the campfire in my friend's backyard. Last night we decided to smoke some hookah and just chill for the night. So while I'm off doing something or other (I think I was getting water), my friends fill up the bowl and get the charcoal lit up, all ready to smoke. We play this fun little smoking game where you can't exhale until the hose is passed back to you (there were only 2 others and myself there) , and that usually gets me pretty light-headed.

    So about 4 or 5 passes in, I'm like, "whoa. I'm pretty high!" It turns out my friend had mixed some of his weed into the tobacco.

    Now, I have nothing against weed, and usually my friend pulls out his bong to take a couple hits anyways when we're smoking the hookah which is fine by me. The thing is, I've made expressly clear to my friends that I don't smoke weed any more because I'm trying to find a job.

    Anyways, I was trippin' out cuz I hadn't blazed in a while and I was upset with my friends for doing this behind my back. For the first ~20 minutes (time distorted pretty heavily) of my trip I/my consciousness was vacillating between feeling just the chill relaxed high, and being pissed at my friends for putting weed in it given the circumstances.

    One more thing: Recently, I asked the universe & my higher self to throw me some substantial, rapid-fire catalyst to aid in rapid polarization. So I'm not really angry at my friend for doing this since I can see that it was basically me who attracted it.

    My question is, how do you guys deal with catalyst in order to polarize efficiently? How would you deal with my situation? What methods would you apply to this specific catalyst?

    I was thinking about using the balancing exercise Ra talks about in TLOO and Carla mentions in Living TLOO:101. The problem with this method is that I'm not sure I can recreate accurately the feelings that I had while high, because they felt so distorted.

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    Turtle (Offline)

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    #2
    03-28-2010, 03:31 PM
    If I were you, I'd choose to talk to my friend in a sober state of mind and let him know EXACTLY how I felt about that crap. It's no small issue to you because of the job search thing. I would be blunt and honest with my friend, and let them know that I could not, would not, do the same to them because I respect them more than that. Nonetheless, some questions you may ponder...

    -Did he have the job search in mind when he mixed the bud in?
    -Do you know what his intent was?
    -Do you know if he did it of his own accord, or if he was influenced as well by others in the group?
    -etc. etc... ask these questions and if you can answer them, the meditation on it all will most likely be a piece of cake.

    Godspeed!

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    charlie2012 (Offline)

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    03-28-2010, 04:36 PM
    That was an unfair trick he pulled on you Josh, but it seems like you dealt with the situation well. I'd say that the way to most effectively act on catalysts is to try to be as much yourself as you can be, while keeping tightly on to the emotions that you wish to polarize towards. Tell him openly how you felt about the situation and that no harm (if none has in you opinion) has been done but that you would like to be shown some more respect regarding what you have stated earlier to him. You might want to ponder on why he would have done this; ie. out of love or power, and respond in an appropriate manner. The more open we are to our other-selves about how we truly feel, the less tension there is in the air.

    How do i personally act on catalysts? I embrace every problem/challenge/catalyst and try to be as much as my true self as i can while acting on them. Shedding all the negative ways to act on catalysts that this world has taught me, and working on spreading light on all situations of life. Love the world and it will love you back Smile

    Love & Light bro!

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    Cyclops (Offline)

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    03-28-2010, 04:48 PM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2010, 04:49 PM by Cyclops.)
    In your situation I would say get angry, bring that anger back and blow it out of proportion. Why would he do this? was he being stupid or was he trying to do something bad to you? only when you envelop yourself with this do you see the truth of what it really is. Ahh but can you see it? All is well. What was once anger is now acceptance and appreciation and the joy that your friend was so nice enough to mirror to you a side of yourself. For within all entities exists completeness. For as you have gotten the weed into your system and had already taken it know that within your friend lies the mirror image of yourself, given to you catalyst. Know that you are here the infinite one, you are experiencing yourself.

    Quote:Questioner: What is the difference in terms of energy center activation between a person who represses emotional responses to emotionally charged situations and the person who is balanced and, therefore, truly unswayed by emotionally charged situations?

    Ra: I am Ra. This query contains an incorrect assumption. To the truly balanced entity no situation would be emotionally charged. With this understood, we may say the following: The repression of emotions depolarizes the entity in so far as it then chooses not to use the catalytic action of the space/time present in a spontaneous manner, thus dimming the energy centers. There is, however, some polarization towards positive if the cause of this repression is consideration for other-selves. The entity which has worked long enough with the catalyst to be able to feel the catalyst but not find it necessary to express reactions is not yet balanced but suffers no depolarization due to the transparency of its experiential continuum. Thus the gradual increase in the ability to observe one’s reaction and to know the self will bring the self ever closer to a true balance. Patience is requested and suggested, for the catalyst is intense upon your plane and its use must be appreciated over a period of consistent learn/teaching.

    Quote:Questioner: How can a person know when he is unswayed by an emotionally charged situation or if he is repressing the flow of emotions, or if he is in balance and truly unswayed?

    Ra: I am Ra. We have spoken to this point. Therefore, we shall briefly iterate that to the balanced entity no situation has an emotional charge but is simply a situation like any other in which the entity may or may not observe an opportunity to be of service. The closer an entity comes to this attitude the closer an entity is to balance. You may note that it is not our recommendation that reactions to catalyst be repressed or suppressed unless such reactions would be a stumbling block not consonant with the Law of One to an other-self. It is far, far better to allow the experience to express itself in order that the entity may then make fuller use of this catalyst.

    It may be unwise to think right away that moving away from the emotions and from the negative situation will do you well. It is but the fruits offered by the negative catalysts which strengthen and intensify the positive radiant choice of a being. Continually un-distorting and seeking shall transform the one experiencing catalyst. Gradually shall one be balanced and not swayed. It will not though happen through repression and the blocking out.

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    Biu_Tze (Offline)

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    #5
    03-28-2010, 05:31 PM
    Thanks a lot for all your posts, some good info in here to ponder Smile

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    JoshC (Offline)

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    03-28-2010, 08:14 PM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2010, 08:15 PM by JoshC.)
    Aye, thanks for the responses guys. I spent some time pondering over it, meditating and napping with it on my mind.

    He did it mostly out of love, I remember he had said that he thought that I've been stressed lately (I'm pretty much the chillest person I know tbh, can't see where he got it from), so he wanted to help. He also said that weed only stays in your (general you) system for 5~6 days if you only do a bit of it for the first time since your system's been clear. This last point was something that I still am not sure of and it was one of the focal points of my anger; he's definitely the stoner of our group so I'd expect him to know more than me, but I've always heard that its 25~40 days (probably 20ish for me cuz I'm exercising and burning a lot of fat atm but still...). So I'll have to look that up.

    I was also astonished while I was high that he would do such a thing. I don't use the word lightly either, I was mostly stunned into not being able to think anything because of the nerve (lol that sounds so cliché) he had. (<--I'm not angry right now but I dunno how to rephrase that and keep the same meaning.)

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    03-28-2010, 09:35 PM
    (03-28-2010, 08:14 PM)JoshC Wrote: He also said that weed only stays in your (general you) system for 5~6 days if you only do a bit of it for the first time since your system's been clear. This last point was something that I still am not sure of and it was one of the focal points of my anger; he's definitely the stoner of our group so I'd expect him to know more than me, but I've always heard that its 25~40 days (probably 20ish for me cuz I'm exercising and burning a lot of fat atm but still...). So I'll have to look that up.

    Some teenagers I know told me that most employers do a saliva swab, which only detects THC if it's been in the last 48 hours. However if they do a urine test, it will detect if from much longer (not sure but I think it was measured in weeks). Supposedly the saliva swab is more commonly used; evidently they are mainly trying to screen out chronic druggies rather than weekend recreationists.

    So, chances are you'll be ok, though there's no guarantee which method that particular employer uses. Head shops have herbs to clean the system, but if you mention to them that you want it for a drug test, they can't sell it to you. So just say you want 'cleansing herbs' and don't mention why. (One of the teenagers works at a head shop and shared that bit of trivia with us.)

    Good luck!

    Regarding the anger and indignation you felt, I think they were warranted. Regardless of his reasons, he really had no right to deceive you and make the decision about whether to get high or not for you. So I wouldn't feel bad about having felt what you felt. Now that you have expressed your displeasure, you can move on to forgiveness. But I definitely think it was appropriate to let him know that what he did wasn't cool.

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    Phoenix (Offline)

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    03-29-2010, 01:41 AM
    Yeah, sounds like you are either less charged than me or have some repression going on there. I think my reaction/ anger would have been so intense that the "friend" would find himself experiencing the catalyst of shock.

    Catalyst to me is a process of desiring the answer [s], and looking very closely at reality 'as I see it in this moment.' Also, taking coincidences very seriously. Not getting lost in my head and missing the opportunities of the moment.

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    charlie2012 (Offline)

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    03-29-2010, 05:59 PM
    I used to be quite the stoner myself and Josh, you have absolutely nothing to fear regarding drugtests, it's already out of your system. Actually, you have nothing to fear at all in life if you so choose Smile

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    04-05-2010, 01:35 AM
    Since you are already at the point of asking for catalyst, then just accept it with amusement. You can choose to play the role of an angry friend, or you can choose to flip it around and analyze the original intentions of your friend. Or do both! Personally I like to analyze things from multiple perspective, from the eyes of multiple people and personalities, so that instead of just gaining the experience of the catalyst from one perspective, do it from multiple perspectives for an exponential gain in experience.

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    04-05-2010, 02:36 AM
    look at your friend, see the Creator

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