corporate "entities"

[KMcNay]

We all have to deal with corporate/organizational entities, whether they are a public utility we buy services from or they are the company that we work for. I have a very customer service oriented job at the moment and I deal with co-workers and customers in a loving way. What I don't deal well with is the corporate entity itself. The one I work for is all "cheerful and healthful" on the outside, but it is just another slave mill that doesn't walk the walk of their happy talk. I'm feeling resentful of their insincere happy talk and hypocritical actions at the moment. Their "we're all in this together/let the good times roll" is really just profit/growth oriented while pay is low and hours are cut with no warning a the same time if the employee who just lost part of their rent doesn't keep a smile on their face, then they are deemed as negative and not working in the spirit of the company. Corporations, to me, feel like negative polarity and sending them L/L seems like a big waste of time.

So, my question is, how do we relate to the corporate entity according to Ra? Also, what is our Karmic relationship to corporate entities and STS groups who are trying to enslave us?

[ChickenInSpace]

To me, it always depends.

There are corporate entities which I feel are built up around a budding or existing 'social memory complex' which may give you alot of good stuff (expressed badly) if you are willing to be part of this or not.

Inversely you may spend alot of energy trying to build a network which has the goal of using you in any business-related phenomenon.

[Unbound]

Use the opportunity of the environment to serve others. I work for a grocery store chain in the deli, but my love and light is not directed towards the company, it is directed towards the people within it and the people who come in for service. I do not always agree with the corporation itself, or the way it is designed or structured, however it does allow me to interact with many people I otherwise never would have, and thus individuals I have been able to send love and light to more directly that I otherwise would not have been able to.

[KMcNay]

Use the opportunity of the environment to serve others. I work for a grocery store chain in the deli, but my love and light is not directed towards the company, it is directed towards the people within it and the people who come in for service. I do not always agree with the corporation itself, or the way it is designed or structured, however it does allow me to interact with many people I otherwise never would have, and thus individuals I have been able to send love and light to more directly that I otherwise would not have been able to.

That's what I do also ..love and light to the people. But, my question was about corporate entities because they do take on a life of their own.

How do we relate to the corporate entity according to Ra? Also, what is our Karmic relationship to corporate entities?

[Sagittarius]

I'd start by paying attention to your thoughts and others about the workplace. If mind leads to body why are you so surprised there is unrest when your mind constantly gives significance to these feelings of powerlessness.

The corporate entity is you essentially you are giving it's story the charge as is everyone else. Possibly a revaluation of your sympathy towards yourself and others would prove the story.

[βαθμιαίος]

I don't think Ra addressed our relationship to corporate entities, but they did mention the "somewhat negative orientation of your social complex distortion."

Personally, I'm in favor of ending corporate personhood, but that may not happen for a while yet.

[KMcNay]

I don't think Ra addressed our relationship to corporate entities, but they did mention the "somewhat negative orientation of your social complex distortion."

Personally, I'm in favor of ending corporate personhood, but that may not happen for a while yet.

They probably won't end in 3D anyway. I know there's a volume of work "Living the Law of One - 102" that address the lower game board, but I haven't found it yet ... maybe it is still to be published.

[βαθμιαίος]

Yeah, I don't think she's finished that one yet.

[Parsons]

I have heavily contemplated this topic, so I am inclined to comment.

I have come to much the same conclusions as many here regarding the treatment and feeling towards customers and coworkers. Everyone should be treated with love and respect. That point has been more than adequately covered, so I would like to answer the heart of the OP's query.

I also have had difficulty with my perception of the 'corporate entity' as a whole. Without exception, of the 3 large corporations I have worked for, I found an unfairly disproportionate amount of money, power and incompetence concentrated towards the top of the corporate pyramid.

In the past, I have resented or hated the corporation as a whole as a result. However, my experiences of being a lower/middle manager have given me an appreciation for the immense, pragmatic pressure from your employees from below, and the selfish bullshit from above. What I realized was that no matter what my opinion was, I had to institute the terrible policy changes from above. Not to mention the constant dishonesty I was forced to commit. If I refused, I would simply be replaced by someone who wouldn't refuse. I only lasted 11 months like that, and vowed never to do that again.

However, I am very grateful for the experience. If I hadn't been a manager, I may never have ceased seeing my boss as just the impersonal face of a cruel corporation. Now I see any given coworker or boss as a person simply experiencing 3rd density. Even the corporate ladder climbers that don't mind breaking a few necks climbing their way up the pyramid are just human. I actually feel just as much compassion for them as someone in poverty at the bottom of the corporation, just for different reasons.

The point is I just don't see or recognize the corporation itself. I just see individuals. There is no relation or so called 'karma' to be had for something that isn't an entity in the first place. As for the ones who unknowingly commit unloving, selfish behavior: forgive them, for they know not what they do. As for the ones who knowingly do so, they are simply trying to polarize towards a path I have not chosen, yet I still love and respect them for it.

[ScottK]

A great question..

A corporation would be defined more or less as a collection of one or more people organized or aligned in a certain manner. So a corporation isn't necessarily bad. In fact, I'm sure you could find many corporations in your life that are aligned positively, such as churches, charities, and many small businesses as well.

The problem we have today, and the reason we have a problem with the term "corporation" is twofold. First, the sole point of many corporations is simply maximizing profit. And secondly, the laws instituted by government encourage consolidation and the formation of very large corporations. So the structure of these corporations naturally becomes a large pyramid structure where the higher levels are completely detached from the lower levels and decisions are made solely on the basis of money. So the upper levels are practically encouraged to perpetrate despicable acts against the lower levels, since the lower levels are dehumanized because they are viewed upon as monetary instruments.

This is, indeed, probably THE major third density problem as an STS leaning person has legal cover for perpetrating negative acts for the self under the guise of doing positive for the corporation, whilst sucking the life out of humanity in the process.

So, as we transition to fourth density, we really need to reform the concept of a corporation. Laws need to be promulgated which encourage the formation of small corporations and give them an equal footing with large corporations.

Also, back when the US was founded, many corporations were actually created in the church and the articles of association of those corporations referenced "God's law" as the law those corporations were operating under. So those corporations were under the common law (God's law) rather than administrative law (man's law). Reference the 1632 Dordrecht Confession of Faith - http://www.bibleviews.com/Dordrecht.html

I would *love* to put together a template for a corporate articles of association using the Law of One that would enjoy higher status in law than administrative law because of religious protection and also set up a proper structure for operating under common law. Now, that would be HOT!

I wouldn't know specifically what Ra would say about large, STS based corporations. It really is painful that just to get by, one often has to at least modestly support such negative entities. But at the same time, it also offers you catalyst to clearly see the negative choice and either go along with the negative choice for personal gain, or to make the positive choice. One would think Karma would be associated with the negative choice, but who knows, I'm not the CEO of the wheel of Karma

[Rusalka]

I have heavily contemplated this topic, so I am inclined to comment.

I have come to much the same conclusions as many here regarding the treatment and feeling towards customers and coworkers. Everyone should be treated with love and respect. That point has been more than adequately covered, so I would like to answer the heart of the OP's query.

I also have had difficulty with my perception of the 'corporate entity' as a whole. Without exception, of the 3 large corporations I have worked for, I found an unfairly disproportionate amount of money, power and incompetence concentrated towards the top of the corporate pyramid.

In the past, I have resented or hated the corporation as a whole as a result. However, my experiences of being a lower/middle manager have given me an appreciation for the immense, pragmatic pressure from your employees from below, and the selfish bullshit from above. What I realized was that no matter what my opinion was, I had to institute the terrible policy changes from above. Not to mention the constant dishonesty I was forced to commit. If I refused, I would simply be replaced by someone who wouldn't refuse. I only lasted 11 months like that, and vowed never to do that again.

However, I am very grateful for the experience. If I hadn't been a manager, I may never have ceased seeing my boss as just the impersonal face of a cruel corporation. Now I see any given coworker or boss as a person simply experiencing 3rd density. Even the corporate ladder climbers that don't mind breaking a few necks climbing their way up the pyramid are just human. I actually feel just as much compassion for them as someone in poverty at the bottom of the corporation, just for different reasons.

The point is I just don't see or recognize the corporation itself. I just see individuals. There is no relation or so called 'karma' to be had for something that isn't an entity in the first place. As for the ones who unknowingly commit unloving, selfish behavior: forgive them, for they know not what they do. As for the ones who knowingly do so, they are simply trying to polarize towards a path I have not chosen, yet I still love and respect them for it.

Looks like you've given it a lot of thought. You're a good and wise man :-)