Earth's progression through the densities

[caycegal]

I have some concept of individual spiritual evolution.

However, I would like to hear what some of you make of the idea of Earth's progression through densities. Is first density Earth still in existence, even though we don't see it? Is second density Earth still going on, although we are not aware of it?

Or maybe the categorization of Earth as 2nd, 3rd, 4th (etc.) density is just a way of saying that most of the people or all of the people living on the planet have evolved to a new state, and they have changed the earth as they did so.

I see Venus and Mars in the nighttime sky. What am I seeing? Am I seeing just one version of the planet which is simultaneously occupying many different densities, with different realities on each density?

Perhaps as all the entities on Earth evolve to new levels of perception, we have the ability to alter everything in our environment through "infinite energy" (which I assume is a kind of mental channeling of God-force) and thus we create a world which is pleasing to us. So it's not really possible to predict what our fourth density world will be like - we'll create it as we move into it.

A second or third density entity might look at our world, yet not perceive what we experience at all.

[Conifer16]

it is my understanding that we can still see the 1st and 2d densities. the first is all the elements around us like the rocks and water and air and fire when it exists. then second density is all the animals and plants and all other forms of biological life on this planet. as to what we see when we look at planets outside of our own? for mars and venus,having no native life as far as we are told, i would say that we see their first density. i don't know how to determine if a planet can hold second density life or third. but it is fairly obvious,to my understanding at least, that if there is no life and we can still see a plantet then it exists for our vision as only first density. hope that helped :-)

Conifer17
Adonai Vasu Borragus
Namaste :-)

[Spaced]

I agree with conifer17's assessment of first and second density. I think that every planet has 1st density activated by necessity, since all other energies use the red ray as foundation and so for any sort of life to exist 1st density needs to be activated. I don't think there are any planets in our system other than Earth with 2nd density activated (I could easily be wrong though). 3rd density Earth to me is represented by our global society and our social institutions, it is an abstract framework which allows us to experience 3D lessons and excludes lower animal life who are less capable of abstraction and therefore cannot assimilate into the framework of society.

Ra mentions that when 4th Density comes 3rd density will no longer be activated but revert to a potentiated state. I see that as meaning that our modern society may suffer a collapse or might simply not be compatible with the new awareness provided by 4D and that, until we as a species decide we are ready for a new global society, we will no longer have central institutions directing our action.

[jivatman]

I believe that Ra said that Mars has second density life, probably bacteria and other simple lifeforms that survived Mars cataclysm.

Venus is habitable in 5th and 6th density, if I remember correctly.

[Siren]

EDIT
Upon review, I realized my original response was poor, lacking and wanting in depth and clarity. I have now revised it and hopefully made it a bit more explicative. My apologies.

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Is first density Earth still in existence, even though we don't see it?

This is basically correct. 1st density "exists," if you will, or rather, co-exists, with the 2nd and 3rd densities of this planetary sphere. We remind you, however, that all densities exist potentially, yet at the present space/time in its evolutionary cycle, these three densities are actively functioning upon this planet (alongside the currently incoming 4th density).

As for the second portion of the query, we'd offer the slight correction that you do "see" 1st density, and in fact, you interact with it on a daily basis.

Is second density Earth still going on, although we are not aware of it?

This is correct. 2nd density is still "going on" alongside 1st and 3rd densities, although the planet itself is primarily a 3rd density planet (again, presently entering 4th density).

And again, the small correction we'd make is that you actually are aware of 2nd density as you can very well witness all around you; just look at the wide variety of 2D entities that inhabit this planet. Although "meshed" with 3rd density to some extent, their experience is of a 2nd density nature. Similarly, your experience is of a 3rd density nature, therefore although you are aware of 2nd and 1st density, your awareness is that of a 3rd density entity, not 1st or 2nd.

Or maybe the categorization of Earth as 2nd, 3rd, 4th (etc.) density is just a way of saying that most of the people or all of the people living on the planet have evolved to a new state, and they have changed the earth as they did so.

If I grasp your query correctly, this is precisely correct. The present "state" of the Earth correlates to the highest level of awareness of its collective society, so to speak. That is, 3rd density (which is rapidly entering 4th density as of now). You are correct in surmising that the 3rd density collective is "birthing" this 4th density Earth. As the 3D collective transitions to a 4th density level of awareness and understanding, so too is the Earth transformed.

I see Venus and Mars in the nighttime sky. What am I seeing?

By this I suspect you are inquiring about the present density of these planetary spheres. If so, this is the answer:
The entity Mars has been "interrupted" at mid-3D. It is still remains a planetary sphere of 1st density entities at the very least. I intuit 2nd density entities upon and/or within its surface as well.
As for Venus, last I checked, it was a 5th density planet at this present space/time continuum.

Am I seeing just one version of the planet which is simultaneously occupying many different densities, with different realities on each density?

Let us put it this way: with a 3rd density awareness you are capable of seeing, perceiving and experiencing that which pertains to a 3rd density level of awareness; including "lower" densities below your own. However, we repeat, your awareness is of a 3rd density entity, therefore you do not and will not experience nor "see" the world around you the same way a 1D and 2D density entity does.

A second or third density entity might look at our world, yet not perceive what we experience at all.

This is precisely correct. A 2nd density entity will perceive, and hence experience the world around it, with a 2nd density level of awareness—it may perceive, interact with and experience 3D in a way similar to how a 3D entity may perceive, interact with and experience 4D (the only slight difference is that this particular 3D experience upon this planet has been "veiled," causing the 3D entity to "blinded," to a great extent, of its time/space reality, as well as the "higher" densities above its own).

[caycegal]

Thanks for all your helpful comments. I'm beginning to feel more comfortable with the "density" concept.

[anagogy]

I have some concept of individual spiritual evolution.

However, I would like to hear what some of you make of the idea of Earth's progression through densities. Is first density Earth still in existence, even though we don't see it? Is second density Earth still going on, although we are not aware of it?

Or maybe the categorization of Earth as 2nd, 3rd, 4th (etc.) density is just a way of saying that most of the people or all of the people living on the planet have evolved to a new state, and they have changed the earth as they did so.

I see Venus and Mars in the nighttime sky. What am I seeing? Am I seeing just one version of the planet which is simultaneously occupying many different densities, with different realities on each density?

Perhaps as all the entities on Earth evolve to new levels of perception, we have the ability to alter everything in our environment through "infinite energy" (which I assume is a kind of mental channeling of God-force) and thus we create a world which is pleasing to us. So it's not really possible to predict what our fourth density world will be like - we'll create it as we move into it.

A second or third density entity might look at our world, yet not perceive what we experience at all.

"Densities" are basically just thresholds of consciousness. The higher density you are, the closer to the One you are. You basically have mind and matter. Both are vehicles for consciousness. Mind is the inner self, and matter is the outer self. Mind is time/space, matter is space/time.

When a 3rd density mind (which exists in inner non-physical time/space) moves into outer physical matter (which exists in space/time) it "collects" about itself matter that reflects that consciousness. Basically, a tangible manifestation forms around this intangible mind. This results in a body that is yellow ray or third density. Yellow ray is the consciousness of self awareness, so it must needs be that this material reflection of that consciousness possesses the capacity for self reflection. This is why the homosapien brain is as big as it is. A 3rd density chemical body requires a brain that can think in "abstract" or useless (in the sense of survival) ways.

If you'll notice, there is no difference between the matter that makes up second density lifeforms (animals/plants/bacteria), and the matter that makes up 3rd density lifeforms (humans). Or even 1st density lifeforms. Its all the same "stuff". The part that is different, is the arrangement of the chemical body. 2nd density mind, manifesting in the material plane results in a chemical body that does not innately possess self awareness. I would almost call 2nd density the "genetic body" as the consciousness that makes up that threshold of consciousness is simply the elements moving in a purposeful growthful ways. 1st density consciousness does not have this "organizing" characteristic, which is why this red ray threshold of consciousness is composed only of the random dissolution or change of air, earth, fire, and water (or if you prefer more scientific terminology: gases, solids, plasma, and liquids).

So when the social memory complex of Ra asks us to imagine our world as being seven Earths, they are referring to the vibrational levels that make up each density. We can see the physical manifestation of 1st density consciousness in the elements that make up the Earth. We can see the 2nd density manifestation of matter which is the genetic kingdom. And we can see the 3rd density manifestation of matter, which is the human body. Presently, the higher density manifestations of matter are not visible to the bodies we are currently looking at the world through. But every density has a mental manifestation, and a physical manifestation all the way up to 6th density.

Anyway, hopefully these examples have helped, in some small way, to make the density concept clear.

[Liet]

The physical earth we see is its solar plexus / skin (do note that its possible to see an entire spectrum within each color).
Just like with your chakras... You have a bunch of chakras which are not physical, only energies who contain your plexus area's energies are (the heart etz needs in 3d to be concentrated // heavily blended with the masculine energies in order to be physicaly perceptible).

[Cyan]

Edit: was super baked when writing, tone isnt exactly... me....

I have some concept of individual spiritual evolution.

Ok.

However, I would like to hear what some of you make of the idea of Earth's progression through densities. Is first density Earth still in existence, even though we don't see it? Is second density Earth still going on, although we are not aware of it?

First density is all material before the possibility of growth / movement as an independent system. (just what exactly that means depends on your pov (cant have matter without a OBJECTive point of view))
(or, Matterial, material, madreial) focus of the soul/self. Subjective is divisive (going away from madre, matter, material,). (Sub of the I that is same in all)

Or maybe the categorization of Earth as 2nd, 3rd, 4th (etc.) density is just a way of saying that most of the people or all of the people living on the planet have evolved to a new state, and they have changed the earth as they did so.

2nd is all matter that can move/grow but cant make concious choices of how to react in a situation.
3rd is all matter that can move/grow/make independent choices of how to react in a situation.
4th is interesting because it varies, it can be 4A where you approach the obvious question that arises "where are we operating in" from a point of view of "time is now, infinite and all is an illusion and we are the godself in the moment. So we have infinite power over everything but we choose to experience as we have seen best fit to experience before and new ideas bring new conclusions to old solutions and thus a growth of the whole of the neural net and as such the perceived change from a past illusion into a future illusion but still within reality"

4B is where you approach it from a point of view of matter up, where you analyze all systems you see until you see patterns and when you see the pattersnw ell enough you start to see the control system itself and you can manually through willpower in your present manifestation change the circumstantes enough and manifest significant changes into your matter state. But you see no greater meaning to it other than its application for something else.

Which ever you choose is irrelevant but once you have established your growth in one or the other and become aware of it and the choices you have made the easier it becomes to cross into the other system of belief because the more appartnet it because that belief is all that maintains reality around you. Once that becomes appartent, understood and internalized and externalized in the visible and invisible universe, you are standing on the opening of the 5th density. Once that is grasped you see that the 5th is the mathmathical aspect of the communication between the various aspects and your calculation of your individual flightpath of the previous 4 states.

6th is the unification of this into a singular understanding of humanity as the "grand experience" where there is no end, no beginning and you only have a single life yet you never die and you are never born. You exists in this state for as long as you wish, in any form you wish until you no longer wish to exists and you pass that form on and eventually you have less and less available forms that you havent used and you grow more and more interested in "new forms" no matter how banal or weird. And as you grow older you try stretch the boundaries of what is and what isnt possible in form and emotional construction and the main point of interest is in contacting and meeting new creatures for their artistic and expressive qualities and try to influence them to grow in new and novel ways, which show the crafting influence of the 12 archtypes which is how we on this relaity understand the "schools" of spiritual form design. (artistic lisence here, hope you enjoy)

7th is the unification at the moment of transition between this whole reality as created by the self to the point of all possible realities created by more remote selves until infinity (the fractal pattern begins here, entirely different forms of life that go beyond our understanding 6.5 being the point of unity and what not)

8th is the central point in the center of the fractal pattern

9 is "all else"

thats just my theory ofcourse, i have no idea if its true or not

I see Venus and Mars in the nighttime sky. What am I seeing? Am I seeing just one version of the planet which is simultaneously occupying many different densities, with different realities on each density?

You are seeing a surface probably around 3-4 meters away from you in your perceptual reality the inside of which is colored by what you are willing to accept your world to be (because you are human, i assume, that your environment has trees, plants, birds, water, and such), and into that environment you have added a symbol of the entity of "mars" and the entity of "venus".

These entities appear at points along your reality sphere tha tyou are willing to accept. since I assume you live on earth, we have at some point in our collective evolutionary path agree dto call "that ball of light there love" and "that ball of light over there war"

They are neither here nor there but they are floating as concepts in all our fields.

Now, not all posters here might physically live anywhere near a human world. That is a reality. Some of the posters here are so "out there weird" that i wouldnt be surprised if some of them live on other worlds and talk through portals such as these. But thats also just a theory. Such stuff i suppose probably doesn thappen, right?

anyway. moving on.

What you see in your field isnt actualy mars, it is what you are willing to accept as mars.

And you "entities" are grouped according to what you are willing to accept (grouped by belief)

Such belief groups evolve together but paraller occupying the same "anthill in empty space" like structure which looks like strands of light in vaccuum.

Such "pipe systems" are arranged side by side to each other floating in space with intersecting points allowing transfer between realities.

So.

If you go home and meditate and your guides (the people around you) are good (you believe them and they belive you) when you go into an alternate state (your higher self is your idealized version of self that has roughly 2-3 days "relative" time to build your experiences ahead of you) and you start to travel. What happens then is that one of these pipes has been built by "the system"(you may insert god here but i'm trying to be technical because god is self imho) and it allows you to travel to a paraller "honeycomb" network.

so what it looks like is simple.

You live in honeycomb network A primarily as a new soul

Assume that your friend is, say, 100 times older than you and is assigned to watch you grow.

You live in network A which consists of stuff that you perceive as relatively important.

In network A you have understanding of "top is better than bottom" because you are a plant, you are used to evolvoing towards the top.

Now.

I live in network B and A. B Is where you have relative concepts available to you, as the ability to hang upside down where by the bottom becomes the top, or sideways or any other direction in a 3 dimensional space.

If i explain this to a plant, the plants reality (belief system) will be momentarily transported to my honeycomb like system and i will be able to describe the transition.

This is possible because i am also as an individual looking down at this moment from the point of view where i believe evolution will lead to intelligent plants eventually and the internet preserves all things written onto it because humanity will evolve towards and past is more important with time.

So.

5th density me is watching the transition between plants from 2nd to 3rd, narrating it to 4th D me which is passing orders to 2 density me to write it down while the 6th density me is listening to music and tripping out and the 7th density me is "evolvoing" and the 1 density me is furiously going back and forth as the trillions of photons in my cpu dancing to the beauty of it all.

Any questions?

Your relative reality has a relative concept of mars as a relative planet. My concept of mars is that i have no freaking clue what mars is, thats why i like that humans are launching probes at it, i'll let the scientists go over the results before i poke my nose anywhere NEAR there, quantum observer and what not. Let the better minds work unmolested on !science!

Perhaps as all the entities on Earth evolve to new levels of perception, we have the ability to alter everything in our environment through "infinite energy" (which I assume is a kind of mental channeling of God-force) and thus we create a world which is pleasing to us. So it's not really possible to predict what our fourth density world will be like - we'll create it as we move into it.

A second or third density entity might look at our world, yet not perceive what we experience at all.

You start at that level, you work from infinite creator through making choices to a more and more advanced state until you become aware of the concept of having grown as such (when you ask the question of how do i grow). Then you make your best to improve your life condition and produce the best possible outcome for your species.

If you want a goal.

Infinite energy is a fancy way of saying "you in a dream broh!"

Infinite intelligence is a fancy of saying "use yo imagination broh!"

the rest is just "dont fudge it up once you learn of it because this is the only long term dream you got, its been growing for as long as you've been growing until you're alive and aware of it, you can jump to any reality you want but isnt that kinda stupid, because its the same as dying if you assume that all is relative anyway?"

So... You know... Harvest? "We see that the echo of what you are doing is getting back to you" "yes we see that too, how interesting" "how about we start to discuss what happens in 40 years"....?

[caycegal]

You have a bunch of chakras which are not physical, only energies who contain your plexus area's energies are (the heart etz needs in 3d to be concentrated // heavily blended with the masculine energies in order to be physicaly perceptible).

Please expand and explain your last sentence, especially the part about masculine energy blend.

Thanks.

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Reply to Cyan:

Yes, you were baked (believe it or not I had to look that up in urban slang dictionary, it's been so many years since I've been baked), which has made a lot of what you said difficult to sort out, but I also think there's a lot of interesting stuff in there, so I will keep with it. Thanks for taking the time to share so much.

[Cyan]

Thanks.

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Reply to Cyan:

Yes, you were baked (believe it or not I had to look that up in urban slang dictionary, it's been so many years since I've been baked), which has made a lot of what you said difficult to sort out, but I also think there's a lot of interesting stuff in there, so I will keep with it. Thanks for taking the time to share so much.

I think that it might be aptly called "channeling the god of the plant"

And since it isnt exactly a steady state it tends to get kind of back and forthy but the concepts in it are so interesting that i feel sometimes that i must share a tidbit here or a tidbit there. When i do i rarely have the time that it would take to properly clear out, balance, and edit the texts that i produce. And in that editing i fear i would lose something that is inherant to the state of confusion that i use as a tool, i suppose.

To give it a proper analgoue / reference point, think of the "drunken kung-fu" style, and as it relates to channeling and Ra.

Hope that helps clear it up a bit.

[Liet]

You have a bunch of chakras which are not physical, only energies who contain your plexus area's energies are (the heart etz needs in 3d to be concentrated // heavily blended with the masculine energies in order to be physicaly perceptible).

Please expand and explain your last sentence, especially the part about masculine energy blend.

Water energies (Vermilion, Green, SoftPink(Sacrum, Thymus, CrownBody)) are the softest, largest, most diluted/unfocused energies of its level.
They could all be considered "crown chakras"..
Two things can happend when focusing on a water energy depending on how you do it; consequtive energies sliding up towards the next level where there is more room, or compacting it to create more room "here":

Fire energies (Red, Yellow, Indigo(Prostate, solar, Forehead) are the sharpest, most compact/-ing, concentrated/-ing of its level..
Fire energy activity determine how tight grip you will have on the earth energies flowing into it, "preventing progress" untill sufficient pressure has built up below to have it energetic enough to slip through the iron grip..
If slipping through, Fire activity makes the core of each crown thinner and reaching further up (reaches the next fire energy immediately if done properly).

But due to collateral damage, as not all pixels are shot with perfect aim (better and better aim the more fire energy activity, maximum fire activity still causes a percentage or two to be "collateral damage")
The surrounding femenine energies will build up with time and slowly dilute the border between the two (core and body)
Because the thinnest/softest can not exists side by side, to the densest/sharpest fire (it'd be shredded to pieces)... there needs to be gradiants between the two.
In this, energies will attain properties of the other... Making for example the previously sharp fire soft and the previously metaphysical water physical.

Compacting femenine energies to have part of it become "core", alter that part of its properties to become more masculine... this compacting also allows for more growth to take place within the same area.. because if your space is "full" you become satied (plummeting your desire/motivation to meditate).

Earth (the ones determening how fast below energies are drawn into the fires) when left with minimal fire activity, causes the beam to shoot up as a relatively broad and short beam (can still be a few meters though), allowing femenine energies to accumilate rather quickly.
But the quickest way to allow a femenine energies to build up, comes from the lowest water energy; the lower back, "sacrum".

Highly suggest red jasper (up to 25g is effective, color shade between 6 and 9 according to the program "paint") for anyone intrested in that.
Note that as it fills all the femenine energies (nearly) in an instant, all meditation will work the whole.

[Oceania]

i don't think second density can be hidden from 3rd density.

[Spaced]

A second or third density entity might look at our world, yet not perceive what we experience at all.

This is precisely correct. A 2nd density entity will perceive, and hence experience the world around it, with a 2nd density level of awareness—it may perceive, interact with and experience 3D in a way similar to how a 3D entity may perceive, interact with and experience 4D (the only slight difference is that this particular 3D experience upon this planet has been "veiled," causing the 3D entity to "blinded," to a great extent, of its time/space reality, as well as the "higher" densities above its own).

A cat can walk on your keyboard while you're typing a post but won't understand why you get upset and shoo it away

Would the analog for 3D/4D be how out of touch so many people are with their emotions and dreams and how they effect others? Seems like most people are just firing off energy at random.

[Siren]

Would the analog for 3D/4D be how out of touch so many people are with their emotions and dreams and how they effect others? Seems like most people are just firing off energy at random.

Rather than being "out of touch" with 4th density (which is partially true), I would suggest this has more to do with people being largely un-aware of the power and effect their (3D) inner, time/space reality has on their outer, space/time. To the great majority of people on this planet, "reality" is solely physical (that is, rooted in space/time).

However, let us be reminded, that such stark "division" between physical and metaphyical, is the effect of what we metaphorically refer to as, "the veil."

Not many people realize all the amazing things that were made possible because of this wonderful experiment. Then again, perhaps the the fruits of this experience shall be truly appreciated at a later time.

[Shin'Ar]

"Densities" are basically just thresholds of consciousness.

As I read through the thread to this post, I was preparing to say exactly what Anagogy has said here.

This is another one of those instances where students of Ra become so confused by its terminology that actual interpretation becomes impossible.

If you replace density with field of consciousness one will better understand what Ra means when it speaks of densities.

Start with the Field of Consciousness from which All has spawned.

Place whatever number on that which makes you feel happy.

From that another field of consciousness spawns as the First Field expands by thought process and experience of its existence.

This would be the next density of the First experiencing its reality in a state of awareness. So the next density is just the next field of consciousness becoming/being/evolving.

This second is not separate from the first, or outside of the density that First Field. It is contained within that One density, and no matter how it vibrates, it will continue to of that same density. The evolution of it is not in becoming a different density. The evolution is in the information that is gathered by it as it experiences its existence.

It cannot contain the same information stored in the First Field because only that Field has experienced that event of existence, in other words the density of the second field is not as great as the First simply because the First contains more information and experience than the second.

However certain aspects of that First Field can be shared with the second, based upon its ability to comprehend and interpret the data that is shared. As more fields expand from those first, the densities/abilities/capacities to store and interpret data decrease in efficiency compared to that of the higher fields.

The evolution of these fields progresses as they share information with each other and experience their own unique set of realities. The First evolves via the sharing of the unique experiences of the lower fields. And the lower fields evolve via the sharing of each and every other field including that of the First.

This is the Sacred Geometry of The All; the Divine Design.

This is the Flower of Life; the microcosm and the macrocosm, as above so below.

As a field of consciousness evolves through this sharing of information between fields, its density/capacity increases and its ability/knowledge enables it to progress from lower to higher being/existing. In that progression we find both fields of ancient age/experience evolving, as well as fields of younger states/more recent thoughts of The One, also evolving from their particular densities into higher evolved states.

Obviously within this Design there will then be fields that were spawned as the first thoughts of The One, ancient and vastly dense, containing information and knowledge/ability far beyond a field that would not have been spawned for countless years after it.

And we will have fields being born into existence with each and every continuing thought process of The One. One was just born this very second somewhere and will begin the journey of evolving from its lower density of experience and capacity to the higher being it will become.

Thus we have the stones of a planet, the vegetation and other lower fields of consciousness that may or may not have actually even achieved a state of awareness.

And we have a field of consciousness in a higher density which has taken the form of a planet on which many lower fields will spawn and experience evolution. in this planetary form the field is no different than any other evolving field.

Consider that we human forms have residing on our own forms many lower forms that evolve just as we do on this planet. We might say that we are their planet. One higher field accommodating lower fields all within the same process.

When we think of density in this way we can begin to understand how they are thresholds to higher densities.

I am not sure why there is a designation of densities by numeration. All religions do this using references such as portals, gateways, ladders,etc., but I attribute that to human attempt at comprehending what is incomprehensible.

Is it possible that within the Divine Design that there are particular degrees of density which when achieved progress into another degree of density?

Who knows for sure!

In my thinking, density is more a matter of 'capacity of conscious' ,awareness and experience, which directly correlates to the event of evolving which I have just described above.

So when we ask about the awareness between fields of various densities, what we are really talking about is capacity to interpret that which is being experienced.

If we think of our own field of consciousness as being a literal field of sensitivity surrounding our temporary physical form, like a sonar or radar, we realize that it has a limited field of contact with our environment. Some are greater than others and more able to interpret the environment around them because of the information and experience stored within them.

The field of a lower consciousness would not extend as far around it as the field of a higher consciousness. Thus the ability to interpret and interact within its environment is limited to its capacity/density.

A highly evolved field of consciousness, or one that is of ancient experience, would have a field that extends around it of vast proportions.

The field of The One will extend beyond and contain the All.

The field of a solar system will extend much further than the field of a planet, and so on and so one all the way down through the capacities and experiences/evolution of each and every field of consciousness that comprises the All.

The stone may not be aware of your presence and interaction. You may be unaware of the presence of the Earth and its interaction with you. And yet All interact and evolve as One Field of Consciousness from the lowest to the Highest.

There should be no seeking of ascension from a lower density into the next, for the achievement of that is the simple and natural progression of the evolution of the Process of Being.

What we seek is direction so that such progression continues, as opposed to there being an unnecessarily slow rate of progression that causes a field to 'run around in circles' so to speak without any actual gain of density.

And to achieve that direction one must acknowledge and manage the duality of the Divine Design. Balance!

The seed of the oak does not strive to become another oak. That achievement is built into its Design. As it naturally evolves through the Process of Being, it will become its higher being.

However the success of that evolution requires direction which will allow for the necessities of that design to be fulfilled. That seed must go through a series of events that, when accomplished successfully as designed, will result in the transformation. many factors play in this design, such as sun, pollination, wind, adequate fertilization, etc.

Direction! The successful fulfilling of the requirements necessary to reach the next degree of density.

Direction! The choices made in a state of consciousness which enable the progressive evolution/Process of Being of that field into higher being.

Progression is not a matter of going from one density into another. It is a matter of direction, for with awareness comes decision/choice of direction which establishes the rate of progression.

That which is referred to as 'the veil' is simply the different frequencies between fields which inhibits lower fields from being able to interpret/or contain/absorb/gather the information stored in higher fields. The further in vibration one field is from another the more incompatible the ability to interact and share.

[zenmaster]

That's funny. I started using the "field of consciousness" concept then found a much better conceptualization with "density".

[zenmaster]

Here's a Ra material question - was 3rd density on Mars and Venus also roughly 75,000 years?

[Shin'Ar]

That's funny. I started using the "field of consciousness" concept then found a much better conceptualization with "density".

Is it possible then for you to assist me with understanding why the need to layer density into eight levels, as opposed to simply recognizing it as progression and direction?

Obviously you have evolved from field thinking to the much higher being of density thinking. You are much denser than I.

[zenmaster]

That's funny. I started using the "field of consciousness" concept then found a much better conceptualization with "density".

Is it possible then for you to assist me with understanding why the need to layer density into eight levels, as opposed to simply recognizing it as progression and direction?

There are developmental stages or levels of experiential distortion provided within that direction of progression. Take a look at Spiral Dynamics, derived from Clare Grave's Graves' "Emergent Cyclic Levels of Existence Theory", which identifies movement through valuing memes within the 3D subdensities.

[Siren]

Is it possible then for you to assist me with understanding why the need to layer density into eight levels, as opposed to simply recognizing it as progression and direction?

If I may, I'll offer a question for you to muse upon: why does white light refract into seven (7) primary "rainbow" colors?

[Spaced]

Since Ra is always using analogies to the motion of waves; vibration, distortion, etc., I always assumed they were using Density in the same way as you would if you were measuring density of light, like in foot candles, or density of sound-waves (which is equal to sound intensity divided by the speed of sound). If light/love is the building block of the Universe than would an increase in the density of light not also increase the amount of information carried by the light and offer new opportunities for experience? It makes sense to me also that these increases in density would have thresholds that separate it into different categories of density, since that is the way many natural systems seem to operate.

Then again, I'm just a 3D alien.

[caycegal]

You are much denser than I.

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