thoughts on channeling and Bashar, hey idiot meditate (chat transcript)

[Plenum]

this was on the public record, so I harvested it.

if any of the participants objects, I'll delete this thread.

I found it a fascinating read.

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[2012-08-02 12:29:21] DMCubic: hi hi
[2012-08-02 12:29:28] zenmaster: Yo
[2012-08-02 12:29:54] DMCubic: how's your night? (assuming you're in the USA or close to it time-zone wise)
[2012-08-02 12:30:33] zenmaster: Yes, east-coast USA. Going well! How's your's?
[2012-08-02 12:30:51] DMCubic: ate way too much. fell victim to all you can eat spaghetti.
[2012-08-02 12:30:58] Turtle: allo peeps
[2012-08-02 12:31:06] DMCubic: so. i'm recuperating
[2012-08-02 12:31:10] DMCubic: turtle. bonsoir
[2012-08-02 12:31:15] DMCubic: how are you?
[2012-08-02 12:31:30] Turtle: I'm doing very well, how about you two
[2012-08-02 12:31:46] zenmaster: Gotta love pasta, had some for dinner as well
[2012-08-02 12:31:54] DMCubic: my body is overloaded with starch. all you can eat spaghetti night.
[2012-08-02 12:32:31] DMCubic: question:
[2012-08-02 12:32:46] DMCubic: do you two think you're wanderers? i have my doubts about me being one. i don't really care though.
[2012-08-02 12:32:52] zenmaster: Now eating some grapes called 'Midnight Beauty'
[2012-08-02 12:33:14] DMCubic: sounds like a pony from My Little Pony.
[2012-08-02 12:33:43] DMCubic: i totally don't get the my little pony fandom. i like cartoons, anime and stuff. i love love love Adventure Time, if you know of it.
[2012-08-02 12:33:44] zenmaster: I believe I'm a 'wanderer', but I don't really care
[2012-08-02 12:34:01] DMCubic: anyway. watched some My Little Pony and just don't get its appeal. it's this cult sensation.
[2012-08-02 12:34:08] DMCubic: totally beyond me as to why.
[2012-08-02 12:34:23] Turtle: well, by the information presented, I would by default classify myself as a 6D wanderer...but I do not subjectively identify too much with the idea anymore because I've finally and thankfully adapted very well to life here....so I identify as a comfortable-stranger...lol
[2012-08-02 12:34:44] DMCubic: yeah i feel like i may be a 5d one.
[2012-08-02 12:35:08] DMCubic: but yeah. it's difficult to know just from reading how much the veil can screw you up and send you back to a truly 3D state of mind
[2012-08-02 12:35:24] DMCubic: like general patton, it blew my mind to hear he was from 6D
[2012-08-02 12:35:34] DMCubic: so it sounds like one can have warlike karma and still be that advanced
[2012-08-02 12:35:56] DMCubic: if that's true then i could be from anywhere. i just feel like i have too much fresh bad karma to be from outside 3D
[2012-08-02 12:36:24] DMCubic: but i have no way of knowing that without some major visionary experience or something.
[2012-08-02 12:36:31] Turtle: well, it's possible this isn't your first incarnation on earth, even if you are a wanderer of 4, 5, or 6 density
[2012-08-02 12:36:46] DMCubic: true.
[2012-08-02 12:36:49] zenmaster: feeling like you have too much bad karma could just be a symptom of the type of balancing catalyst you've programmed for yourself
[2012-08-02 12:36:55] Turtle: for a time, I felt that this might be my 2nd or 3rd incarnation on earth
[2012-08-02 12:37:00] DMCubic: yeah i know, i was thinking about that.
[2012-08-02 12:37:26] DMCubic: yeah it makes sense that wanderers would incarnate in succession starting around 1936 when the first 4d energy started to hit
[2012-08-02 12:38:12] Turtle: I've found that after several years of digesting and practicing the things I've come across specifically with the Ra material and more recently Bashar's channelings, that it is highly irrelevant and useless to consider the past, and simply focus on being the best "me" I can be each and every day
[2012-08-02 12:38:31] DMCubic: yeah. it's a matter of curiosity though.
[2012-08-02 12:38:42] Turtle: saying that...yes, deep down inside I feel that earth is not "home" for me, not by a longshot
[2012-08-02 12:38:48] DMCubic: i mean, everything is outside of doing what it takes to open up wisdom and love.
[2012-08-02 12:38:53] DMCubic: is a curiosity, i mean.
[2012-08-02 12:39:02] zenmaster: To be honest, while I like Bashar, I don't see anything that I haven't already read somewhere in there
[2012-08-02 12:39:23] DMCubic: do you have a link to anything from this bashar?
[2012-08-02 12:39:37] DMCubic: and yeah. once you've been around the spiritual block it all sounds the same.
[2012-08-02 12:39:42] zenmaster: you can type in bashar on youtube
[2012-08-02 12:39:51] DMCubic: the teachings are too simple
[2012-08-02 12:39:56] Turtle: I agree zenmaster, I just absolutely love his style of telling the same information...and because of that, the information stuck in a much more practical way when he described the same old stuff to me
[2012-08-02 12:40:28] zenmaster: I like the style to a point, mainly because he does a good job of relaying a lot info efficiently
[2012-08-02 12:40:46] Turtle: Ra material got me out of my spiritual confusion, and solidified a lot of things for me that I already felt to be true...Bashar helped me immensely in streamlining HOW to live
[2012-08-02 12:40:53] Turtle: yeah.
[2012-08-02 12:41:01] zenmaster: it's like the opposite of q'uo which just drags on and on
[2012-08-02 12:41:46] DMCubic: lol on q'uo
[2012-08-02 12:41:53] zenmaster: Ra material did confirm a lot of things that I had already felt as true, and so it became my favorite
[2012-08-02 12:41:58] DMCubic: i've been reading Carla's old channelings from the 70s of hatonn
[2012-08-02 12:42:12] DMCubic: that was helpful. every session is just like, hey idiot, meditate.
[2012-08-02 12:42:16] DMCubic: sup n00b, meditate
[2012-08-02 12:42:17] Turtle: I am very grateful to them all
[2012-08-02 12:42:20] DMCubic: stop being a n00b and meditate.
[2012-08-02 12:42:24] Turtle: haha
[2012-08-02 12:42:43] zenmaster: yes, the hatonn and latwii stuff was good
[2012-08-02 12:42:45] DMCubic: hatonn's not quite that much of a dick... but.
[2012-08-02 12:42:53] zenmaster: a lot of Don in there it seems
[2012-08-02 12:43:02] DMCubic: ra is amazing. i just had my mind blown by it.
[2012-08-02 12:43:17] DMCubic: yeah i don't know how much the channeler can inject themself into it.
[2012-08-02 12:43:38] Turtle: Channeling varies just as much as personalities do
[2012-08-02 12:43:45] DMCubic: but before Ra i had no idea about any of this channeling business, i was into buddhism though. i got all my respect for Ra from the accuracy of the strictly spiritual advice
[2012-08-02 12:43:59] zenmaster: ra is amazing, there seemed to be a lot of care involved
[2012-08-02 12:44:28] DMCubic: yes
[2012-08-02 12:44:37] Turtle: exactly
[2012-08-02 12:44:39] DMCubic: reportedly that was Carla's deepest trance channeling
[2012-08-02 12:44:44] DMCubic: with the least amount of interference
[2012-08-02 12:44:45] zenmaster: well the trance channeling is presumably undistorted by the host's personality

[Parsons]

Lol, I thought the same thing about a lot of Hatonn's channelings. "Sup noob, meditate" was the overriding message I got too, and got bored with reading it for awhile. That's why I gave up on reading the channelings before the Ra contact and started reading them starting after the Ra contact. I am almost caught up to date, too (I am at like 2004)!

[Sagittarius]

haha good find plenum, made me laugh.

[Patrick]

Lol, I thought the same thing about a lot of Hatonn's channelings. "Sup noob, meditate" was the overriding message I got too, and got bored with reading it for awhile. That's why I gave up on reading the channelings before the Ra contact and started reading them starting after the Ra contact. I am almost caught up to date, too (I am at like 2004)!

I'm still reading stuff from 1985.