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    LeiwoUnion (Offline)

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    #31
    03-27-2021, 08:44 AM
    (03-27-2021, 08:30 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: If a person conscious of reality, is able to affect it, how far can reality and timelines be affected by those who are really aware of things?

    To whatever extent their true will can carry and it can go as far back as the original thought, so anything goes, as far as I understand.
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    #32
    03-27-2021, 05:53 PM
    (03-26-2021, 03:39 PM)Patrick Wrote: I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !

    (03-27-2021, 08:44 AM)LeiwoUnion Wrote:
    (03-27-2021, 08:30 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: If a person conscious of reality, is able to affect it, how far can reality and timelines be affected by those who are really aware of things?

    To whatever extent their true will can carry and it can go as far back as the original thought, so anything goes, as far as I understand.

    According to what I have seen in the "Universal Law of Attraction" Fraternity, everything. I don't believe in it myself, because I believe it to be immoral. Immoral? How is this? If the Universe remains in a "State of Balance", we have to assume the supposition that there are other Beings throughout the Universe? What if by using the Universal Law of Attraction, you are depriving somebody on a distant planet through greed. I resist such temptations, and believe the Universe can give, (it can also take it away). Be warned, do not venture over to the "Dark Side".

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    #33
    03-27-2021, 06:56 PM
    Activatr super saiyan rainbow god mode ultra, ming
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    #34
    03-28-2021, 10:42 AM
    (03-26-2021, 03:39 PM)Patrick Wrote: I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !

    (03-27-2021, 06:56 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Activatr super saiyan rainbow god mode ultra, ming

    This is true. In all things there must be balance. The God(s) hold the "Scales of Justice", and if an imbalance occurs, we will drop down through a Black Hole. Beware of CERN, they do not know what dangers they are playing with. Oops Gentlemen, I believe we have just created a Black Hole. Is NASA still recruiting candidates for a mission to Mars? I shall apply.

    :idea:

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    #35
    03-28-2021, 11:19 AM
    (03-25-2021, 06:26 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: The problem with "Reality", it is "Unreal". Don't mind me, that is Intuitive Mind talking. 

    I don't see any distinction between real and unreal.

    Others have mentioned Michael Talbot's The Holographic Universe, and somewhere in these forums I embedded an awesome interview with Talbot before he died with Jeffrey Mishlove). Talbot's work was in part based on physicist David Bohm's holographic model. Very simply put, Bohm posited that there is an implicate universe and and an explicate universe (his own book on this is Wholeness and the Implicate Order). The implicate universe is like an infinite field of possibilities, unmanifested; while the explicate universe is unfolded from the implicate, manifested as it were—this coincides with the wave/particle duality, whereby the wave function contains all possible outcomes (unmanifested) and the particle function has collapsed to one possibility (manifested).

    So, from this perspective, what is real? From the perspective of any cosmology, what is real? Even a human lie could be said to be real—it has form (thought) and it has consequences, it changes things. 

    Still, it's a good question—what is real? From my point of view everything is real. And if it turns out to be true that there actually is a subatomic unit of "matter" that cannot be broken down any further, such as "strings" in String Theory, and this is what unfolds from the implicate universe in order to form any matter, then isn't everything real in the sense that it's all made of the same stuff?

    As far as thoughts go, and intention, and telepathy, communication without words, and all mind activity, these seem to me to be the "power" that creates the unfolding from the implicate which manifests matter—like the OIC wanting to have experience beyond the unmanifested state of infinite possibilities, that awakening of intention unfolded the first distortion and so on.
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    #36
    03-28-2021, 12:18 PM
    (03-26-2021, 03:39 PM)Patrick Wrote: I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !

    (03-28-2021, 11:19 AM)Diana Wrote:
    (03-25-2021, 06:26 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: The problem with "Reality", it is "Unreal". Don't mind me, that is Intuitive Mind talking. 

    I don't see any distinction between real and unreal.

    Others have mentioned Michael Talbot's The Holographic Universe, and somewhere in these forums I embedded an awesome interview with Talbot before he died with Jeffrey Mishlove). Talbot's work was in part based on physicist David Bohm's holographic model. Very simply put, Bohm posited that there is an implicate universe and and an explicate universe (his own book on this is Wholeness and the Implicate Order). The implicate universe is like an infinite field of possibilities, unmanifested; while the explicate universe is unfolded from the implicate, manifested as it were—this coincides with the wave/particle duality, whereby the wave function contains all possible outcomes (unmanifested) and the particle function has collapsed to one possibility (manifested).

    So, from this perspective, what is real? From the perspective of any cosmology, what is real? Even a human lie could be said to be real—it has form (thought) and it has consequences, it changes things. 

    Still, it's a good question—what is real? From my point of view everything is real. And if it turns out to be true that there actually is a subatomic unit of "matter" that cannot be broken down any further, such as "strings" in String Theory, and this is what unfolds from the implicate universe in order to form any matter, then isn't everything real in the sense that it's all made of the same stuff?

    As far as thoughts go, and intention, and telepathy, communication without words, and all mind activity, these seem to me to be the "power" that creates the unfolding from the implicate which manifests matter—like the OIC wanting to have experience beyond the unmanifested state of infinite possibilities, that awakening of intention unfolded the first distortion and so on.

    Then we return to the ultimate question which has haunted Humanity since it gained Self-Awareness, "What is Reality"? Have you watched the video Patrick gave the link on YouTube? It opens your eyes. According to the latest theory, everything that we see is illusion and we are creating everything in Mind. We all have a general consensus and agree the structure of Earth, and everything we touch, taste, see, smell are just illusionary. Then I ask, what happens to Metaphysics, do we just through that out of the window? Following that line of thought, If Everything is ONE, and we are minute fragments of an overall Consciousness, then all the other concepts become meaningless. It even puts "Spirituality" on the line, and even that must be questioned? Not that there isn't Spirituality, (per se), but it would have to be interpreted differently. I shall give up my wicked ways of Zen and become a hermit, (that would be a good ambition). I have never been a Hermit.

    We have been cursed? When the "Universal Consciousness" came into existence, it forgot to leave us an instruction manual. We are supposed to fit the pieces together, and the puzzle is so large, nobody knows where to start. The God(s) are taunting us, and, (meanwhile rolling-over in hysterical laughter). It is true, there is a "Cosmic Joke", (and I am not laughing). Do I look like I am laughing? I will convert to Judaism and become a Rabbi. Although I was always impressed by Orthodox Judaism. The Rabbis always look so mystical and Medieval, (similar to the strict Muslims). Excuse me, how did I get into this? A study in Comparative Religion? Was I brought here to compare Religions? That was not in my contract. I shall contact the Administration in this organization and review my contract.

    The "Curse of the God(s)" and the delusions. Where was I? The "Delusion of Reality, (Unreality)". The more you learn about Reality, the less you know about it. That would be a good title for a book. The fact is, we know nothing about nothing. A hypothesis? If everybody is, (Consciously), creating Reality in their Mind, does it mean that there as many versions of Reality as there are people? Meanwhile your Reality could be a total contradiction to my version of Reality. The God(s) have cursed us. I blame the God(s) because they put us into this predicament, and they are refusing to admit it. God(s) are far from perfect. There are times when I have considered going into the wilderness and creating new God(s). Those who are reliable and do not play tricks on you. Honest God(s). Not those God(s) who create something and forget about it. They are unreliable and untrustworthy. Taunting God(s) should be lessons taught in schools. Instead of the, (endless), brainwashing the kids receive. Anyhow that is what I think. At least the God(s) gave me the gift of thinking and logic, even though everything appear to be illogical. Illogical logic.

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    #37
    04-07-2021, 04:59 PM
    Another nail in the coffin...


    "Particle mystery deepens, as physicists confirm that the muon is more magnetic than predicted"

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/...-predicted

    Quote:A potential chink in physicists’ understanding of fundamental particles and forces now looks more real. New measurements confirm a fleeting subatomic particle called the muon may be ever so slightly more magnetic than theory predicts, a team of more than 200 physicists reported this week...
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    #38
    04-07-2021, 06:49 PM
    (03-26-2021, 03:39 PM)Patrick Wrote: I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !

    (04-07-2021, 04:59 PM)Patrick Wrote: Another nail in the coffin...


    "Particle mystery deepens, as physicists confirm that the muon is more magnetic than predicted"

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/...-predicted


    Quote:A potential chink in physicists’ understanding of fundamental particles and forces now looks more real. New measurements confirm a fleeting subatomic particle called the muon may be ever so slightly more magnetic than theory predicts, a team of more than 200 physicists reported this week...

    Obviously, when we stop asking the question and accept there is only one answer. The "Law of One". Everything is encompassed in that simple answer. That is all we need to know.

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    #39
    04-07-2021, 06:55 PM
    For us over here this is obvious. But in the context of the transition to 4d, I am interested in seeing how the general population will be presented with empirical understanding of the Law of One.

    What I can see now is an acceleration of all the tidbits that would eventually lead there.
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    04-07-2021, 07:25 PM
    (03-26-2021, 03:39 PM)Patrick Wrote: I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !

    (04-07-2021, 06:55 PM)Patrick Wrote: For us over here this is obvious.  But in the context of the transition to 4d, I am interested in seeing how the general population will be presented with empirical understanding of the Law of One.

    What I can see now is an acceleration of all the tidbits that would eventually lead there.

    Another Buddhist saying, "Everything and Nothing is the same thing", it is only how it is interpreted in Mind. A simple metaphor, (am I not good with metaphors). An illusionary question. What is the difference between a nanosecond and eons of time? Nothing. It is the same thing. Just so in Science. Scientists will, (eventually), realize, that the simple answer to the "Theory of Everything" will be the "Law of One". Does not the "Law of One" encompass all Knowledge? When you comprehend the Knowledge, you will understand the Universe. When you have comprehend the Universe, you will understand the "Law of One". The be all, and end all. The snake biting its tail.
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    #41
    04-07-2021, 08:34 PM
    Many of these more open minded scientists are saying that we should no longer waste our time trying to learn about ourselves by studying the Universe and instead learn about the Universe by studying ourselves via introspection. That is quite a big step they are taking.
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    04-08-2021, 08:52 AM
    Those scientists are being welcome to 4th density earth.

    Let the games begin
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    04-08-2021, 02:29 PM
    (04-07-2021, 08:34 PM)Patrick Wrote: Many of these more open minded scientists are saying that we should no longer waste our time trying to learn about ourselves by studying the Universe and instead learn about the Universe by studying ourselves via introspection. That is quite a big step they are taking.

    I keep seeing this answer everywhere and truly believe it is the key to getting everyone to 4D.

    Forget about what is happening in the 3D world. It is falling away. All answers are already available within.

    My hope is that there will be some kind of spark or chain reaction of consciousness that will sweep across the world in a glorious moment of mass-realization.

    That's the timeline I would enjoy jumping into.

    Really enjoying this thread and all the twists and turns it is taking. What an exciting time to be alive! Sometimes you just have to take a second to sit back and say "Holy s%$t, this is all really happening." BigSmile

    Much gratitude.
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    04-08-2021, 04:39 PM
    (03-26-2021, 03:39 PM)Patrick Wrote: I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !

    (04-08-2021, 02:29 PM)LeafieGreens Wrote:
    (04-07-2021, 08:34 PM)Patrick Wrote: Many of these more open minded scientists are saying that we should no longer waste our time trying to learn about ourselves by studying the Universe and instead learn about the Universe by studying ourselves via introspection. That is quite a big step they are taking.

    I keep seeing this answer everywhere and truly believe it is the key to getting everyone to 4D.

    Forget about what is happening in the 3D world. It is falling away. All answers are already available within.

    My hope is that there will be some kind of spark or chain reaction of consciousness that will sweep across the world in a glorious moment of mass-realization.

    That's the timeline I would enjoy jumping into.

    Really enjoying this thread and all the twists and turns it is taking. What an exciting time to be alive! Sometimes you just have to take a second to sit back and say "Holy s%$t, this is all really happening."  BigSmile

    Much gratitude.

    Remember one thing? Not just hoping is enough, because indirectly you are part of the action. As the Earth moves into 4D, we must become the "Harbingers" to bring it forward. Daydreaming is not going to do anything. Every person who can raise his own Self-Consciousness is adding impact to the event. The second point is to always have a Positive attitude about everything. Even turning Negative events into Positive action. By thinking Positively, it adds Power to the overall raising of Consciousness. A quote from the Buddha, "When we are at peace, the world is at peace". Even removing emotional attachment will bring 4D forward. Be Positive in all things.
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