Dual activated bodies

[unity100]

because the 7d version of me would be much larger (including all the parallel developments from all the other universes) i wouldnt exactly dare call them 'me'. it is not the same 'me' as you see here. it is not me, but i am a part of it, a part of 'us'.

hence, 'i am all things', doesnt make sense now, even if you look at the future 7d totality that you are going to be part of. prefixing the word 'true' or 'real' in front of it, doesnt change the practice ; there is the concept of finiteness we have invented. currently what 'finite' means, is that finity. there is no other definition or concept of finity. therefore, anything that fulfills the conditions of that finity, manifests as finite. 'i am finite now, according to this definition, but in real' fades into the wind - the 'real' unity, infinity, is infinite. it not only includes the entity which is in 20 galaxies away from this galaxy on a random planet, but also any entity in parallel universes, ACTIVELY. not in principle, or in philosophy.

[Ali Quadir]

Unity I won't respond directly to your last message to me. I'm afraid your starting point, that intelligent infinity is a subset of infinity, is to me an assumption. I don't know that. If you call infinity a subset of intelligence you will also end up with a working model. We need something to distinguish the applicability of the models. As it stands, I don't think you can know that. Unless you have something to back it up. In the context of this discussion even revelation would suffice. (Though I think I would desire to explore the experience first) I consider that you're describing a rational model of how you feel it must be. But at this point I just cannot follow you there. Sorry.

you do not exist in all densities all at once.

The illusion is that we don't exist in all densites all at once, but in reality (which is UNreal to us) we do, as the singular One, because there aren't actually any finite divisions between density levels. They all blend together just as in their physical analog of the visible light spectrum.

Yes, that's what I'm getting at Poffo That's how I understand it works.

We do exist everywhere and everywhen at once. Our identification with the 3d body causes it to be active to us. We can thus use it directly. The other bodies do exist. But inactivity means we can only access those through the subconscious. In ways that priests, magi and shamen have done through the ages.

If you look at the various religious systems you can see they focus on different levels of consciousness to work with. Some go only one or two steps beyond the common city block consciousness. Others like Buddhism go all the way. And some are more political and really don't get you anywhere except for a theological straightjacket.

So, indeed, you don't exist in all densities from the limited 3rd density point of view, but that doesn't negate the idea that the TRUE you, the One Infinite Creator, is indeed inhabiting all densities at once.

Precisely

But I get unity a bit better now I think. I think he uses a different approach, and this is reflected in his choice of words. Unity am I correct in assuming that your identification lies in the direct experience? While I would suggest that we do experience a lot of 4,5,6,7 and 8 density experiences already we just do not recognize them as such. I do understand how one would say considering yourself 4th density now is meaningless. If you seek the precise experience we have of 3d but then in 4d. That is meaningless. It is as meaningless as trying to access the dream body from a waking state. If it is not accessible there, it might as well not exist there.

[unity100]

intelligent infinity, even if it is perceived by us as infinite, or, even if it can be infinite in many aspects, is STILL different than infinity. because, it is not infinity itself. else, there wouldnt be two terms for two separate concepts, infinity and intelligent infinity.

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my point in regard to this particular topic is this :

an entity potentially having all bodies in potentiation, doesnt make an entity exist in all densities. even a wanderer who incarnates into a 3d body, but has no other bodies active (in space time or time/space), makes the wanderer a 3d entity, and it manifests in 3d entity. the unmanifested part of the entity may be greater than the manifested etc, but still, physical manifestation remains whichever body is actively inhabited.

then, there's the issue of vibration. densities are vibrational discrete increments. this is as such physically. even if it might be possible to have a glimpse or feel of 4d vibrations or 4d concepts as love in a 3d body, in physical the vibrations are still discrete as they can be. we understand this from what Ra describes as the reason for earth getting warmer during the problematic alignment to 4d vibrations. ra says, the heat phenomenon does not occur in 4d, but it affects 3d. so, it means conditions in between 3d and 4d, are different. their vibrations probably give these properties.

now, the crux of the matter :

i believe that being able to even appreciate the 4d vibrations with a 3-4d body, would require some manifestation, some alignment of that body to those vibrations. which would mean that, even if the entity is not totally in 4d, it has some manifestation in 4d, and therefore, it is very probable that the entity also affects the 4d sphere itself, with its manifestation. (just like how we affect our 3d environment with 3d physical bodies).

this conclusion, if true, brings a lot of curious results :

the 4d density is forming, and if we have any physical effect on this newly forming density, it means that we are interacting with a half complete sphere, and maybe bumping into its landscape at times ?

also, maybe our vibrations are having an effect for this planet's shaping ? (this may be rather unlikely. we could have affected it adversely).

however the reason for this thread was this :

if, 3-4d bodies are not actually a single body that is nested mainly in 3d, and manifesting partially or interacting partially with 4d, but, instead, TWO body activations in full, of a 3d body, and a 4d body separately or on top of each other in the 3d and 4d dimensions, bearing the same soul, then it would be possible for the entities to just leave their 3d bodies and go on with their 4d manifestation, in a 'rupture' like event, a frequency increase, alignment, etc.

but, since we see understand that the 3-4d dual body activation is actually something that happens in a 3d body, and, ra says that these dual activated entities will also need to leave that body, that leaves out the possibility of such kind of 'rupture' or 'dimensional shift' out of the question too.

another door closed.

[unity100]

my personal opinion is, all suitable entities should be transplanted to 4d environment, if their bodies are able to withstand and manifest in it. or taken to secluded locations in which they will be able to make transition more easily.

[AnthroHeart]

Able to withstand is an apt contention. My understanding is higher dimension would be so high-frequency and chaotic as to be like a furnace to us of lower density.

[unity100]

I am now fairly sure that i inhabit a dual activated body now. concluding that made me realize that various common issues a lot of people (increasingly) experience in life are probably tied to this particular manifestation. i will share a few of my observations based on my own experiences with various things.

- for example, i get tired too quick in the city. way too quick. even if i get up ship shape, feeling very high and up in the morning, if i go out into the city just for a few hours, go about doing anything without interacting with people at length, i grow tired very much very fast. its as if whole weights are being incrementally thrown on you proportional to the 'weight' of the place (hustle, bustle, general psychology of the people in that district/zone) you i go to. depending on the locale, the usage of the place/district, and hence the psychologies of people there at that given time, it may be lighter. for example the effect is not so heavy in parks, or recreational districts. going to trading districts for example, is quite the opposite. the effect also changes with the time of the month, or year. for example on sundays the atmosphere is much lighter, anywhere you go. whereas on weekdays, it is much more heavy in composition.

it is a spiritual kind of wear&tear, it also affects the energy model i believe, the composition, situations of chakras. when i come back, it takes a long time for me to recover. in extreme cases, it may feel like knives are being pushed into my 3rd chakra, resulting in a pain-like stress in places near solar plexus.

this effect doesnt happen in the same magnitude in rural areas.

- the energetic/spiritual statuses of people have too strong an effect. when i interact with a person, the person's spiritual situation, leanings, energy model, whatever, has almost solid like effect on me. some people come heavy as a brick, wear and tear inducing, some people feel light as a feather. a lot of people vary in between. of course, the feather-like people are most desirable. this effect is hand in hand with the above one.

- too much empathy with close circle. the psychology/mood, energy situations of close circle of one's own affect the psyche too much. for example, if my flatmate goes to work without sleep, even if i sleep 10 hours that day, i feel the weight. until he comes back and finally goes to bed. there are also other curious situations. a friend of mine, who lives in another city (300 km away) has much effect on my situation. for example, today i had an extreme spiritual weight on me, in the form of tiredom (not like the ones above). i had good sleep, but it was as if a ton of weight was thrown over me. all the day throughout, while working, i was on the brink of closing my eyes to sleep. just a few minutes ago, while chatting, i learn that she has been extremely tired, heavy, and not wanting to do anything. this person experiences the lights phenomenon we talked in another thread, and she is engaged in a social work, giving a huge struggle. she overexerts herself in her activities, even over the extent of the strength she has, and she is very strong in will and spirit.

- im more selective to what food i eat. even tho im a vegetarian for a long time, and dont even eat any kind of meat, a few months ago eggs also started to make me feel nauseous, and i quit eating any at all. i also dropped a lot of the veggies i was eating.

i expect these kind of effects to increase in magnitude for most of us, actually most of the people, and start appearing if they were not having these already.

[AnthroHeart]

Unity, I've experienced those symptoms as well. Today, I've had times of extreme mental exhaustion, even with plenty of sleep. I didn't associate it with people here at work, but that could be a link. Definitely feeling more symptoms lately.

Though I've also had much more clarity on unique spiritual work I desire to do. More clear on my purpose.

I am vegetarian for the most part, like 95% or so. Every so often I feel need to eat some meat, but not beef or pork. Those are just bleh to me. Even cheese or milk I rarely consume.

Definitely feel some of the dual feelings, the tug between 3D and higher.

[unity100]

Unity, I've experienced those symptoms as well. Today, I've had times of extreme mental exhaustion, even with plenty of sleep. I didn't associate it with people here at work, but that could be a link. Definitely feeling more symptoms lately.

then today's thing may be something that affected people around the world. wonder what happened.

[fairyfarmgirl]

The New Year has begun according to the Stargates opening with the Sirius Rising... July 26th. Star Gate Closes around August 12 2010... 8/8/10 is also a High Intensity Day... Higher amounts of light are being beamed to the Earth. Since the Earth has upgraded she is now recieving the Light Codes as we all are... for we are of the Earth and She is of us...

fairyfarmgirl

[unity100]

what is 'sirius rising' ? july 26 ?

[AnthroHeart]

The New Year has begun according to the Stargates opening with the Sirius Rising... July 26th. Star Gate Closes around August 12 2010... 8/8/10 is also a High Intensity Day... Higher amounts of light are being beamed to the Earth. Since the Earth has upgraded she is now recieving the Light Codes as we all are... for we are of the Earth and She is of us...

fairyfarmgirl

I read something about that on a blog post at the crystal gateway:

http://www.thecrystalgateway.net/apps/bl...ising-2010


I'm pretty excited about this, as I have a heart for Sirius.

[fairyfarmgirl]

As do I, Brother. The time is now to anchor light and welcome the upgrade and in doing so ask 'What else is possible?'

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Sirius is rising. It is literal and figurative. Many sources are speaking of this outside of this forum.

--fairyfarmgirl