A formula for figuring out your density.

[Lighthead]

Who is Andrew McCutchen?

lol...he's not that famous...yet. google knows who he is though

I'm glad I helped you find it...indirectly. Lol.

[Lighthead]

I just came up with a mathematical refinement. So I might have messed up on one or two density calculations. Sorry! I'm eliminating the sub-sub-density; that's one refinement. And I came up with a problem after an experiment, but I've resolved it. The problem was that I realized that even the number after the decimal point needs to be "octified." And the "octified" second number after the decimal point needs to be added to the "octified" first number after the decimal point. I don't expect anybody to understand this...I'm not under any illusions.

[Lighthead]

And to GeminiWolf: I, apparently, was very sloppy when I did your density calculation. If you really want to know what your density is, please hit me up in a private message. I'm very, very sorry for that. I think it's because I had to go somewhere when I was doing yours and someone else's. I messed theirs up too.

It was bothering me when I went to sleep last night and, sure enough, I made a mistake.

[Bluebell]

I don't expect anybody to understand this...I'm not under any illusions.

that's good  for wut it's worth it all seems very impressive.

[Lighthead]

This information is a major revision to my theories about the density formula. So this information is like Density Formula 2.0.0.0. Since this information is a major revision, then this information would be important for those who really like the idea of this formula. This information would also be important to those who have PMed me asking about their densities. Skeptics can change the channel, if they want. I am reasonably certain that this information is accurate (more on that later; see Ra quote).

The revision is this: I have reason to believe that the density formula doesn't necessarily indicate whether you are a Wanderer or not. I feel that the density formula is most accurate in telling you at what level of 3rd density you were right before you were born. Obviously, when babies are born, they are pretty much a blank slate. I would say that babies that are born (right when they are born) are 3rd density at the lowest level. As the spirit starts to enter the body more and more, and as more and more catalyst is utilized, then the true sub-density of 3rd density begins to manifest.

If you are reasonably sure that you are a Wanderer, then the density formula can probably still tell you whether you are an angelic from the inner realms, or whether you're home density is 4th, 5th, or 6th and so on. But basically, the density formula is most accurate in telling you what sub-density in the octave of 3rd density you are. For example, if the density formula turns out something like 6.32222222, then the best way to interpret this is that, within 3rd density, you resonate to the 6th sub-density. And if you are a Wanderer, the 6 most likely reflects that you're home density is 6th density. The reason I feel this is this part of the Ra material:

12.28 Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

This can be interpreted as saying that a Wanderer's home density is reflected in the way a 3rd density entity manifests its level of progress within 3rd density. In other words, the purity of the Wanderer's home density has an impact on the 3rd density's sub-density level within 3rd density, proper.

So to those who I've PMed, if I told you that you are a 5th density Wanderer, for example, it is actually more accurate to say that you are a 3rd density entity that is 5th sub-density. However, if you are reasonably certain that you are a Wanderer (the Wanderer's Handbook by Carla Rueckert has a questionnaire that helps you see if you are a Wanderer) then things change a little bit. You can interpret the figure I tell you as indicating that you're home density is 5th density.

I hope this clarifies things, and I hope that this leads to your further enjoyment of the density formula!

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Please ask questions if you're confused.

[Lighthead]

It is not possible to know which density you're on unless you have the ability to read the violet ray.

Update to the thread:

This is a reply that has been bothering me. To make a long story short, I basically scoured the LOO material and found nowhere where Ra mentions what Steampunkish stated here. I presume that he/she meant that it's not possible to judge polarity. But I'm not 100% sure. Either way, Ra never states this about violet ray from what I know. If anybody knows of any instance where Ra says this, I'd like to see the quote because I haven't been able to find it.

I'm also assuming that Steampunkish could have meant being able to see the condition of the energy centers, but I'm also not 100% about that.

[AnthroHeart]

Ra said that one of fifth density can read someone's violet ray. That's all I remember.

[Reaper]

I'm pretty sure this is the passage everyone is thinking of, though I'm not sure if Ra is saying the violet ray itself may only be read by those of 5D or higher, or whether they are talking more precisely about being able to discern specific things from that reading- in this case, a person's level of spiritual ability. 

29.28 Questioner: I see. Then if you are able to read the violet ray of an entity, to see that ray, is it possible then to immediately determine whether the entity could use crystals to tap intelligent energy?

Ra: I am Ra. It is possible for one of fifth density or above to do this.


This passage also comes to mind, though it isn't directly related to that specific question:


65.19 Questioner: [chuckles] Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvestable did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory?

Ra: I am Ra. The reason is twofold. First, the genetic properties of the connection between the mind/body/spirit complex and the cellular structure of the body is different for third density than for third/fourth density.

Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.


In my personal opinion, a person in a 3D incarnation being able to read the violet ray of others in a way that they could effectually "diagnose" a person's density, soul history, etc, would not be appropriate, as it would be an infringement upon those who purposefully chose to forget and who may not want to remember. To be able to do such a thing would, I think, count as "acting in a god-like manner", as it would imply a level of omnipotence not normally available to humanity, and would effectively set one apart from other humans.

I personally think that strong personal inklings are about as reliable as the "remembering" gets. An inner knowing but not a means of objective verification because it just wouldn't be fair to those not ready to know such things. To say "I believe I am a wanderer" is harmless because others around you can choose to believe you or not believe you. To have some way of proving it without a doubt would have an entirely different and most likely harmful effect.

[Lighthead]

29.28 Questioner: I see. Then if you are able to read the violet ray of an entity, to see that ray, is it possible then to immediately determine whether the entity could use crystals to tap intelligent energy?

Ra: I am Ra. It is possible for one of fifth density or above to do this.

But either way, I'm not reading violet ray with my formula. The formula is just an assessment based on astrological and numerological factors which Ra deemed valid (Ra deemed astrology valid, that is).

[AnthroHeart]

I want to be fifth density.

[Reaper]

I don't know what's up with the wacky font changes in my last post. I tried to fix it but it still looks weird.

[Reaper]

A few other passages of relevance:

76.9 Questioner: Is there, in Ra’s opinion, any present-day value for the reuse of the tarot as an aid in the evolutionary process?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall repeat information. It is appropriate to study one form of constructed and organized distortion of the archetypical mind in depth in order to arrive at the position of being able to become and to experience archetypes at will. You have three basic choices. You may choose astrology, the twelve signs, as you call these portions of your planet’s energy web, and what has been called the ten planets. You may choose the tarot with its twenty-two so-called Major Arcana. You may choose the study of the so-called Tree of Life with its ten Sephiroth and the twenty-two relationships between the stations.

It is well to investigate each discipline, not as a dilettante, but as one who seeks the touchstone, one who wishes to feel the pull of the magnet. One of these studies will be more attractive to the seeker. Let the seeker then investigate the archetypical mind using, basically, one of these three disciplines. After a period of study, the discipline mastered sufficiently, the seeker may then complete the more important step: that is, the moving beyond the written in order to express in an unique fashion its understanding, if you may again pardon the noun, of the archetypical mind.

88.23 Questioner: You mentioned earlier that the tarot was a method of divination. Would you explain that?

Ra: I am Ra. We must first divorce the tarot as a method of divination from this Major Arcana as representative of twenty-two archetypes of the archetypical mind.

The value of that which you call astrology is significant when used by those initiated entities which understand, if you will pardon the misnomer, the sometimes intricate considerations of the Law of Confusion. As each planetary influence enters the energy web of your sphere those upon the sphere are moved much as the moon which moves about your sphere moves the waters upon your deeps. Your own nature is water in that you as mind/body/spirit complexes are easily impressed and moved. Indeed, this is the very fiber and nature of your journey and vigil in this density: to not only be moved but to instruct yourself as to the preferred manner of your movement in mind, body, and spirit.

Therefore, as each entity enters the planetary energy web each entity experiences two major planetary influxes, that of the conception, which has to do with the physical, yellow-ray manifestation of the incarnation, and that of the moment you call birth when the breath is first drawn into the body complex of chemical yellow ray. Thus those who know the stars and their configurations and influences are able to see a rather broadly drawn map of the country through which an entity has traveled, is traveling, or may be expected to travel, be it upon the physical, the mental, or the spiritual level. Such an entity will have developed abilities of the initiate which are normally known among your peoples as psychic or paranormal.

It's not that specific, but I get the sense of astrology being used to learn more about one's personal nature, possibly to the extent of understanding the blueprint chosen before the incarnation. If this blueprint can be accurately read, it can essentially predict the events of one's life and allow the self to make better use of the catalyst it is being given, as it has a better sense of where it is in its development and can be prepared for the challenges ahead instead of stumbling into them. Astrology has long been used as a way of learning about the self or telling others about themselves if they don't care to take up the study, in the sense of where they are in their development. I never got the slightest indication, however, that Ra was implying that it could be used to calculate one's density, the knowledge of which is a novelty at best, a breach of the Law Of Confusion at worst.

[Lighthead]

@Yera

But you make a good point that I want to comment on. There is absolutely no way to know for sure whether my formula is accurate or not. I believe it is because I've been studying astrology in one form or another since I was a kid. Therefore, if someone didn't believe that my formula was accurate, then it wouldn't be infringing upon their free will since they wouldn't inquire more information about their density and would reject it.

But then again, I remember a Ra quote where Don asked Ra what density they were. And I remember that Ra specifically declined to do so. Ra just said that there were two who were 6th density and one who was 5th, but Ra didn't say who was what. So I'm left wondering.

And another point. I've come to realize that my formula doesn't definitively say whether one is a wanderer or not even if it were accurate. Even if it is accurate, it just says what sub-density you're at since we're all presumed to be 3rd density. That's a finer point that is sort of difficult to explain.

[Nicholas]

For me personally I followed the "signposts" or "guideposts" as they are otherwise called. You think about what you desire to know about yourself and suddenly turn your head or open a book subconsciously and the clues, although subtle, are right there in front of you. It gets easier the more you practise it but one must step back from personal biases! Also, you don't always get an answer using this intuitive process because if you are not ready to know, or there is intervening material that is required first, then you will just end up with brain ache from over analysing.

But yeah, I discovered my home vibration through this process. 

[AnthroHeart]

I am selfish to want to be other than a 3d native.

[Minyatur]

I am selfish to want to be other than a 3d native.

No you are not, but what your higher self wants is for you to understand and love 3d natives. 

Not saying it is easy but it is your true hidden heart desire.

[AnthroHeart]

I can love *some* others. I am selective. It's hard to love one who abuses animals for instance. Or child abusers. My love in life is to entertain children, though I am poor at that. I wanted so much to be a Disney animator, which never will happen.

[Lighthead]

I can love *some* others. I am selective. It's hard to love one who abuses animals for instance. Or child abusers. My love in life is to entertain children, though I am poor at that. I wanted so much to be a Disney animator, which never will happen.

It takes hard work to be something like that. They didn't just wake up one morning and become that. We can admire people for their talents, but there's only so much natural talent given to someone. And even the so-called, natural talent is most likely a skill that has been developed in a past life where they had to bust their ass to develop that skill or those skills. Sometimes in more than one life. So if you want to have a skill, work on it now. But it's not going to be easy. It's hardly ever easy for anyone.