Protein for Vegans and Vegetarians

[Oceania]

i also would like to keep bees. i think it's a noble profession. you gotta let the bees keep at least half the honey right?

[Monica]

i also would like to keep bees. i think it's a noble profession. you gotta let the bees keep at least half the honey right?

I don't really know the amount, but yes, the bees get to keep what they need and the beekeeper just gets the excess. In contrast to commercial beekeeping, wherein the bees are fed sugar water so the beekeeper can take more honey. Consequently, the bees aren't as healthy.

That's why organic beekeepers aren't having much problem with the 'disappearing bees' problem. It's the commercial beekeepers who are having the problem. Organically raised bees have much stronger immune systems. So the more people have backyard hives, done organically, the more we can all help save the bees.

I have a space that would be perfect for bees, but I hesitated because I wanted to be sure my dogs and cats are safe. I need to get better educated on the subject before I take it on. It's a big responsibility!

If you want to do it, you should contact Pablisimo. He knows everything!

[rorystyris]

Our body requires some proteins and enzymes compulsory, With these things only our body will become more healthy. By eating healthy food and doing some activities like yoga and exercise we can getting the healthy body.

[Tenet Nosce]

i also would like to keep bees. i think it's a noble profession. you gotta let the bees keep at least half the honey right?

I don't really know the amount, but yes, the bees get to keep what they need and the beekeeper just gets the excess.

I wonder if bees suffer when humans take their honey.

[Monica]

I wonder if bees suffer when humans take their honey.

That's a good question. I have no idea. My guess is that they wouldn't suffer per se, but may have to work harder. Or, maybe not...my understanding is that they usually have some excess anyway. Organic beekeepers only take the excess; hence, no extra work. Whereas, commercial beekeepers steal the bees' own food, and feed them inferior sugar water. Bleh!

Organic beekeepers tend to have a reverence for their bees. I read a story about bees saying goodbye to their beekeeper. I don't remember the details but it was a cool story and demonstrated true affection between them.

[Tenet Nosce]

That's a good question. I have no idea. My guess is that they wouldn't suffer per se, but may have to work harder.

Hmm. Well we know some signs of bees when they are stressed, right? Then it stands to reason that having to work harder would cause the bees stress, and therefore be evidence that they are suffering.

Or, maybe not...my understanding is that they usually have some excess anyway.

I see. Maybe the bees don't mind sharing!

Organic beekeepers tend to have a reverence for their bees.

Do you suppose those beekeepers would be able to maintain reverence for them, if it were shown that their beekeeping practices were causing the bees to experience stress, and thereby suffer?

[Monica]

Do you suppose those beekeepers would be able to maintain reverence for them, if it were shown that their beekeeping practices were causing the bees to experience stress, and thereby suffer?

By 'organic' I meant beekeepers that treat their bees well and don't cause suffering...as opposed to commercial beekeepers who might love their bees, but still use smokers, chemicals, etc., not realizing that they are causing their bees stress.

I'm not an expert on bees so I'm not really the one to ask.

[AnthroHeart]

I add protein powder to my fruit/veg smoothie in the morning. I use the Sun Warrior brand of veg protein. Also add a handful of nuts to the smoothie (but only sometimes).

Thank you for the post. It is excellent information!

Thanks Ruth. I just ordered this protein powder. Was curious before about which to get.

Do you have a recipe for green smoothies? Thanks.

[Monica]

Wow! This stuff has 4 grams of protein per teaspoon!

http://www.therawfoodworld.com/index.php...id=1003244

It's much more expensive than regular miso, but worth it as an occasional healthy treat, in my opinion. It's tangier than regular miso. I was amazed at how much protein it has. Regular miso has 1 gram per tsp.

[Ruth]

I add protein powder to my fruit/veg smoothie in the morning. I use the Sun Warrior brand of veg protein. Also add a handful of nuts to the smoothie (but only sometimes).

Thank you for the post. It is excellent information!

Thanks Ruth. I just ordered this protein powder. Was curious before about which to get.

Do you have a recipe for green smoothies? Thanks.

Gemini Wolf - I don't really have a recipe per se. Like Monica & Norral, I have a Vita Mix which makes it really easy to liquefy almost anything I throw in which = whatever I have pulled from the garden or have on hand. I always try to include the protein powder, another vitamin powder mix I have, cucumbers, celery, greens (kale, collards, spinach, mustard) a couple of cherry tomatoes, carrot, turmeric, and cayenne pepper. I also use some organic soy milk (but that's for female reasons), and water or juice of some sort for smoothness. My favorite smoothies include 1/2 an organic avocado. Yum!

If I have veggies leftover from dinner I'll throw them in, too.

Good luck!

[Marc]

All seeds have protein- so grains and nuts and most all plant foods have some protein. My favorite protien is hemp seeds! They have the perfect omega fatty acid balence and are super easy to make raw hemp milk with. Hemp is my favorite plant.

[mill]

I have yet to post on bring4th before now.. but this is a topic I was felt compelled to input on having stopped eating meat recently .. I do my best to avoid all animal products but currently battling a love for cheese!

Anyway my boyfriend got me an alkaline food book last year and in there I read about grains such as Amaranth Quinoa and Spelt. In the book it says 'Using Amaranth in combination with Quiona and Spelt results in a complete protein as high in food value as fish, red meat of poultry.'

I havent looked into it much more than the reading in this book but I did go down to a local health food shop and buy all three cant say I feel like i'm missing anything from my diet but I have been wanting to get on the super green smoothies for a while now and after reading this I know I must!

Anyone know any more about these are sources of protein?

[Guardian]

There are a few things I would like to point out about protein. Casein protein from milk comes in two major types a1 and a2. All mammals except most cows produce a2 casein. This is easily digestible and a good source of protein. However, a1 (from most cows) is not easily digested, and produces a smaller protein called beta-Casomorphin-7 (bcm7). Bcm7 is highly oxidative and acts like morphine. This is the reason cow dairy can cause constipation, mucus production, and behaviour problems. It also explains why people crave cheese and other dairy products. My suggestion is that if you want dairy, be sure that you only consume a2.

The second point is regarding the utilisation of protein. Our gut bacteria not only produce enzymes to break down protein for our needs, they also have the ability to produce essential animo acids for us. Our gut use something called shikimate pathway to produce tyrosine (which becomes dopamine, noradrenaline, and adrenaline), tryptophan ( which becomes serotonin and melatonin), and phenylalanine (which can become tyrosine et al).

Why is this important? Glyphosate (roundup herbicide) kills plants by blocking their shikimate pathway. And in consuming foods with the herbicide, we damage our own precious gut bacteria.

Therefore, the second piece of advice is to only eat organic foods, and eat plenty of fermented foods to ensure adequate protection of the gut flora.

[Diana]

Anyway my boyfriend got me an alkaline food book last year and in there I read about grains such as Amaranth Quinoa and Spelt. In the book it says 'Using Amaranth in combination with Quiona and Spelt results in a complete protein as high in food value as fish, red meat of poultry.'

Anyone know any more about these are sources of protein?

Quinoa is a complete protein, and not in the grain category. It is a seed.

"Complete protein" means all the essential amino acids are present. Our bodies make the protein from the amino acids. So you don't eat meat, say, and the meat protein is what your body uses--it breaks it down first (just as the animal's bodies did when eating the plants).

I wouldn't worry about it. There is way too much emphasis on protein. The real issue is eating "healthy" and honoring the body and life in general. Here's my recipe: stay out of the middle of the grocery store, try and get organic food when possible, eat some live food every day if possible, and prepare and cook food with the added ingredient of love. The funny thing about cheese is, when you drift away from eating it, you loose your taste for it. But if you "deny" yourself, you'll crave it. Let the transition come naturally, and it will all fall into place.

I have been vegetarian for 20 years, and I never get sick (last time was so far back I can't remember), even when around sick people. I look younger than my age. I have more energy than most people I know.

Congratulations on stopping your consumption of meat!

[Monica]

I no longer subscribe to the notion that vegetarians have to do anything special to get enough protein. I invite everyone to read Dr. John McDougall's book The Starch Solution, or watch his videos on youtube. He says it's virtually impossible to not get enough protein, on a high-starch vegan diet.