Consciousness Unmoved

[drifting pages]

Very interesting your ideas unity, you do realize they are ideas you acknowledged as valid from your subjective stand point ?

And so are mine, this is very interesting indeed, we are different states and view points.

I am not necessarily talking about infinity here but, let me see if i got your definition of infinity.

"unknowable" "undefinable" "..." "0"

Did i get it ?

Well you see on my subjective experience when "nothing" can be said about something it is when "everything" can be said about it.

Nothing and everything, always unknowable, shifting kaleidoscopic mirror...

This is "us" and "me" and reality...

[unity100]

Very interesting your ideas unity, you do realize they are ideas you acknowledged as valid from your subjective stand point ?

And so are mine, this is very interesting indeed, we are different states and view points.

I am not necessarily talking about infinity here but, let me see if i got your definition of infinity.

"unknowable" "undefinable" "..." "0"

Did i get it ?

Well you see on my subjective experience when "nothing" can be said about something it is when "everything" can be said about it.

Nothing and everything, always unknowable, shifting kaleidoscopic mirror...

This is "us" and "me" and reality...

leaving aside that i am not the first one to propose this, and there has been a lot of other philosophies and religions which approached it in that context (some replace god for infinity and say that you cant fathom/understand god etc), what you say is true at the same time with its opposite being true, regarding infinity.

so, since these cancel out, no attribution can be made regarding infinity.

[Heartwork]

I've always thought this was true, but just assumed so. Many times I feel like a vessel in idle as the world around me warps and progresses onward, however I always feel at the "seat" of what is happening. Consciousness also never moves throughout meditation, it all seems rather fixed in it's total, though still very creative and flowing with regards to what I choose to perceive at that moment.

Very hard to put experiences into words. Typical language barrier.

[Confused]

I've always thought this was true, but just assumed so. Many times I feel like a vessel in idle as the world around me warps and progresses onward, however I always feel at the "seat" of what is happening. Consciousness also never moves throughout meditation, it all seems rather fixed in it's total, though still very creative and flowing with regards to what I choose to perceive at that moment.

That is when I always used to wonder why at all this game or even farce of evolution? What exactly is there to learn?

Then I developed the faintest trace of an idea -- we are there probably for the ONE to fulfill its lust.

[zodekai]

Interesting mover/moved references of previous harvest.
The theosophical concept of the first "solar system" and the relation to mind being the goal of that system comes to mind after reading this thread. It is stated that the afore-mentioned system yielded the number five and venus is referenced as well through the fifth ray.