Why the word Adonai? Adonai Vasu Boragus

[unity100]

I would ask this question of you, have you attempted to contact your higher self or oversoul, have you attempted to contact Ra, do you engage in astral travel, and do you speak with extradimensional entities? I ask this because I wish to ascertain whether you speak from experience or from research. If you speak from experience then I request that you bring it to the table.

first, the undistorted information we are given in the material is a common element that anyone can objectively see and use. the knowledge and insight therein then can be used for common basis, and also, if the information in question is base enough, can constitute a basis for building anything on it.

therefore, if we take the information from Ra material that says the molecules that are used for life is dependent on whatever elements that are available on a planet, then, the information that, logos is what chooses which body type to use as a higher body on a planet, we can make various important conclusions :

- leave aside different types of bodies having different vocal (and any kind of) capabilities, the same type of bodies may be different in various aspects, if the materials available to use in them are different.

- EVEN if the bodies are same, and on the same planet, and from same materials, minor genetic differences can affect them quite a lot - remember how yahweh has genetically modified the bodies they brought to be more able in speech. 99.99% of all humans' genes are same. the remaining 0.01% is what makes for all differences of height, facials, color etc.

- minor gene differences + cultural life can also affect a lot - have one of your japanese friends say a word with a R in it.

- if the body types are different, there will be huge differences in many aspects. a slightly larger body type may not be able to enunciate lower frequencies, and a slightly smaller body type or throat may not be able to enunciate higher frequencies. think about a body type that has evolved from elephant base for example. it will develop through using very low (human inaudible) frequencies for communication. (actually much more efficient). or, think about a body type that has developed from an octopus or squid.

secondly, my or anyone else's paranormal experiences, conversations with their oversoul, extradimensional entities etc, does not mean much for anyone else - they are personal, subjective experiences, and unverifiable.

There is a language that was spoken long ago by many peoples of this planet, it is in the genetic memory - the akashic records. This is presumably Solex Mal.

if there was a language that was spoken long ago by 'many peoples' of this planet, then it was either lemurian, martian, atlantean.

actually we are told by Ra that sanskrit is a language that has practically descended from the logos of this locale, since the language formed at a time when there was no writing. ra says sound distortions of sanskrit are pure.

this information also points out an important thing - vibrations of sound patterns, apparently have a relation to the vibrations of the logos - which makes the 'all encompassing galactic language' less possible.

[Protonexus]

secondly, my or anyone else's paranormal experiences, conversations with their oversoul, extradimensional entities etc, does not mean much for anyone else - they are personal, subjective experiences, and unverifiable.

The L&L research groups' subjective experiences with Ra certainly seem to mean a lot to you. Moreover, it could be said that all religious text is in some way the result of channeling and it is of great interest to many. It is the same oversoul for billions.

Objectivity is an illusionary state, so long as you see self and other self you are relating information to one or the other. I contend that the vast portion of creation is a subjective experience and that true objectivity requires a very balanced or unbiased perspective which neith you nor I are really able to accomplish while packaged in these meat suits.

Objectivity is the assumption that there are events external to the mind which just happen. Nearly all events regarded as objective are parts of the mind of a logos, which is a lifeform that is completely biased towards creation of life. How can that be objective?

The highest self of the soul group with which I am an extension regularly instructs that experiences be shared. Even beyond the higher self where there is no self. Personal experiences are extremely important for human relationships to form in trust and openess.

If you are getting information that could be useful for others but keeping it in secret to bolster your self, this is isolationist and decidedly STS oriented.

Another question for you then, what is your definition of objectivity and what is your qualification to be objective?

[unity100]

The L&L research groups' subjective experiences with Ra certainly seem to mean a lot to you. Moreover, it could be said that all religious text is in some way the result of channeling and it is of great interest to many. It is the same oversoul for billions.

we have touched this concept before in one of the threads while discussing something else. however apparently it is not possible now to reference :

consistency of a given system of information in itself, and the parallels/verifications that can be done to what we know, increase the reliability of the system of information.

consistency is very important - it should be possible to start from one end of the given system - a twineball of information if you wish - and to reach another end, without having dead ends. moreover, it should be possible to take relevant parts of the twineball and make conclusions, and other parts of the twineball verify and hold that conclusion, and that conclusion hold for different parts too.

however this is not enough - this would just be definition of a basic 'reality'. a reality can exist anywhere - it can even be a fantasy world created in the mind of an author.

this is where verifiability and parallels kick in - the more parallels and verifiable tangents the twineball of information has with any given, verifiable reality - say our current planet, or solar system, or existence - the more 'real' and usable it becomes, in the reality that it is tied to.

ra material fullfills this to an unparalleled extent, as far as anything channeled or spiritual, goes.

The highest self of the soul group with which I am an extension regularly instructs that experiences be shared. Even beyond the higher self where there is no self. Personal experiences are extremely important for human relationships to form in trust and openess.

If you are getting information that could be useful for others but keeping it in secret to bolster your self, this is isolationist and decidedly STS oriented.

the highest self of the soul, or the group soul which you are an extension of, then yet has to learn that not all information or things that are learned should be shared with anyone, anytime ?

this is not a detailed discussion even, what had happened in atlantis on this planet, is enough lesson for any entity which is going after spiritual information to ponder on.

Another question for you then, what is your definition of objectivity and what is your qualification to be objective?

i think i had had explained this above, at least in relation to spiritual material.

[Protonexus]

This is a forum for serious seekers, it is that context which information is shared therein. The major portion of those here have previously graduated 3d and the information presented has little danger of jeopardizing the free will of anyone. All information presented through this vessel is individually verifiable. The calling that is answered is that of wanderers, not necessarily those unpolarized or about to graduate 3d.

Additionally, I know 5 Japanese women that have no difficulty with R and L sounds. Two were born in Japan and later learned English, the other 3 were born into English. How does that fit into your interpretation.

What do you know of what happened in Atlantis besides a few paragraphs of information given by Ra that describes a period of 20k years? It was the misuse of technological information that led to the downfall of Atlantis in the last 5k years, most of this technological information was not given by callings - these callings resulted in unity and healing teachings of the Law of One similar to what Ra has offered us now.

From my interpretation of your logic, the Law of One material should be taken off the public internet immediately.

[unity100]

This is a forum for serious seekers, it is that context which information is shared therein. The major portion of those here have previously graduated 3d and the information presented has little danger of jeopardizing the free will of anyone. All information presented through this vessel is individually verifiable. The calling that is answered is that of wanderers, not necessarily those unpolarized or about to graduate 3d.

Additionally, I know 5 Japanese women that have no difficulty with R and L sounds. Two were born in Japan and later learned English, the other 3 were born into English. How does that fit into your interpretation.

there are also buddhist monks which have succeeded momentarily levitating in the past. among countless numbers of monks.

what you speak of, fits the interpretation in the same manner - japanese have difficulty in pronouncing the word R.

http://www.google.com/search?q=japanese+...=firefox-a

a half assed google search, this one. yet i believe sufficient to illustrate the point.

how precisely this fits the interpretation is that, japanese language and culture, leave aside any genetic difference, makes them have a hard time pronouncing certain sounds.

in the case you are speaking of, leave aside cultural differences, entire bodily complexes will be different. eliminating the possibility of an intergalactic sound vibration language.

(not even speaking about the connection in between the logos and sound vibrations, like Ra says about in the case of sanskrit).

What do you know of what happened in Atlantis besides a few paragraphs of information given by Ra that describes a period of 20k years? It was the misuse of technological information that led to the downfall of Atlantis in the last 5k years, most of this technological information was not given by callings - these callings resulted in unity and healing teachings of the Law of One similar to what Ra has offered us now.

we know enough from Ra. moreover, we can add much more (even if not necessarily mandatory) information from edgar jayce.

what we know from Ra is enough to let us know that these entities, have used the information they have been given to develop technology to create life forms, and to create weapons and implements that caused earth-changing configuration with the disaster they have caused. leave aside sinking their continent in installments.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#2

From my interpretation of your logic, the Law of One material should be taken off the public internet immediately.

actually, leave aside Ra material, this much technology ( what we have acquired in the last 200 years) should never have been on this planet in the first place.

in the case of Ra material, some delicate info was conveyed regarding the pyramids. however so far, it doesnt seem anything comparable to what has tesla given to this planet. there are already beam weapons, psychotronic devices, vehicles that move at the half of speed of light etc ...

rest of the information is about chakras, astral concepts, concepts which few of the entities on this planet will probably understand (leave aside use - like infinity), and general - however detailed - spirit information. which can be acquired from many sources, but in Ra material, they are in much tidier, neat format.

i think the information which could develop to be dangerous, seems to be cut at the end of the 4th book, due to unfortunate end of the Ra contact. at this book, quite sensitive and basic concepts were being examined, like the structure of mind, body and spirit.

[Protonexus]

Who are you to make the judgement that things never should have occurred in this way? The technology we have now is in some ways rudimentary and infantile to what the Atlanteans were using. So far, the integration of spirit into material technology has not occurred again (in modern science) but it will soon with the resurgence of Tesla technology and the works of Nassim Haramein, and lesser knowns. The stage is already set for a repeat performance of Atlantis in a more condensed, timely, version. There is also great potential for the re-establishment of Mu culture in Hawai'i. Will these events occur, *shrug*.

Edgar Cayce reads akashic records, the same thing that anyone can do, he picked up on probability spirals, not guarnteed events.

I would say there is more than enough information in the Ra material to give an STS oriented person a strong foundation for the ability to manipulate intelligent energy and those apart from the self of such an entity.

[unity100]

Who are you to make the judgement that things never should have occurred in this way?

i am who i am just in the way you are as someone making a judgment that things should have occurred in this way. there is no objective difference in our judgments, from outside.

however, i base my judgments on the information we have received regarding base concepts :

a planetary society which is still working on orange ray manifestations, not having been able to come over its blockages, should not be receiving information and technology that belongs to end 3, early 4th rays.

this is simply a 12 year old kid being given the command of a nuclear reactor. orange ray is the ray of self, bodily development, the 2nd density.

yet the technology being used here, belongs to early 4th. (in the case of tesla devices).

it is a simple concept : just as chakras are opened and activated in sequence, just as how one does not skip to 6th ray while still having blockages in orange ray, societies should neither skip rays.

if the foundation is unstable, the top of the building topples.

The technology we have now is in some ways rudimentary and infantile to what the Atlanteans were using.

and it is, in some ways, have surpassed it - especially probably in the case of nuclear devices and weapons.

Edgar Cayce reads akashic records, the same thing that anyone can do, he picked up on probability spirals, not guarnteed events.

in the case of atlantis, he was doing readings of the past, not future. i had mentioned cayce, regarding past.

I would say there is more than enough information in the Ra material to give an STS oriented person a strong foundation for the ability to manipulate intelligent energy and those apart from the self of such an entity.

the means for controlling others are built into our current societal system. unfortunately, system provides a lot of ways to dominate others with little effort. its rather mechanical. it is unfortunate in that, even if an entity is negative, it would not be able to polarize meaningfully in that, it wont spend much effort to dominate others, due to the almost mechanical ease the systems provide. from economics to politics, from religion to cults, there are innumerable venues to exert control over others, even if the entity is not even negative.

the usable information in Ra material for negative work is scarce, comparing these to really negatively oriented works.

[Protonexus]

I would ask a final question, what is your purpose for being here?

[unity100]

I would ask a final question, what is your purpose for being here?

i dont understand your question, therefore i cannot answer. maybe if you put your question directly and in context, i can answer tomorrow. good evening.

[Protonexus]

I would ask a final question, what is your purpose for being here?

i dont understand your question, therefore i cannot answer. maybe if you put your question directly and in context, i can answer tomorrow. good evening.

What is your purpose for incarnation into a human body(that should not be here), on Earth, in this Solar System, in this Milky Way galaxy - interacting using technology (that should not be here) on an internet forum discussing information that has little relevance to the majority of the population? Why have you chosen to come here for this experience given the the presentation of probabilities of all that would transpire in this lifetime, why did you request you be born here and why did you agree to the terms of incarnation?

In this moment of now, why are you here?

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I am addressing this directly to the highest self which is capable of rendering this answer, the soul - not the ego or personality "you" to be specific. I am speaking directly to that which will not pass away with the body and mental collection of personal biased patterns. That which is always in the time/space of Now. That which is presently filling the vessel of the body/mind/spirit complex that is identifiable in transient terms as your person. This is the space referred to in the question of "here."

[unity100]

What is your purpose for incarnation into a human body(that should not be here), on Earth, in this Solar System, in this Milky Way galaxy - interacting using technology (that should not be here) on an internet forum discussing information that has little relevance to the majority of the population? Why have you chosen to come here for this experience given the the presentation of probabilities of all that would transpire in this lifetime, why did you request you be born here and why did you agree to the terms of incarnation?

that is not only a huge topic, and somewhat private, but also rather hard to discern in clarity and precision.

I am addressing this directly to the highest self which is capable of rendering this answer, the soul - not the ego or personality "you" to be specific. I am speaking directly to that which will not pass away with the body and mental collection of personal biased patterns. That which is always in the time/space of Now. That which is presently filling the vessel of the body/mind/spirit complex that is identifiable in transient terms as your person. This is the space referred to in the question of "here."

hihihihi. thank you for addressing my highest self. if you get the answer, please tell me too.

[Protonexus]

It is not an uncommon situation for an open channel to communicate the with higher self of a 3d self because the line of communication is too distorted. It should be done with permission. The only answer I get is that you don't listen very well.

It is my understanding the Carla was channeling Don's higher self because he was a wanderer of the Ra social memory complex.

I understand why you wouldn't answer such a question and honestly expected a high probability of a snarky retort in combination with an "it's too personal."

To answer the question in a very simple way relating to the portions of this being called the self and higher self - to answer my own question (in personal terms):

To serve the creation in the manner by which is called and appropriate.

To expand upon that: to provide a direct resonance of feedback to the entities that choose to respond to callings yet not incarnate upon Earth in human form. To provide love and light where applicable and requested. To assist wanderers in remembering their purpose. To hold a vibratory level which is at a certain point a gateway in between dimension, to find a path and to show a way.

Consider what protonexus means, its not just cool sounding words. It means before a center point, which denotes an understanding of a dimensional existence where everything is a center. The place of no self and other self, before light splits into polarities, there is nothing to be the center of and nothing to orbit a center, there is what is in complete unity. From this perspective the higher self is a mirror that can be trained to reflect the light of various sources, which is mostly useful in this 3d state of being. Other higher selves, logoi, and other sources of light are picked up and channeled into the human vessel. This is what the Being I Am is.

This is why I am here.

[unity100]

It is not an uncommon situation for an open channel to communicate the with higher self of a 3d self because the line of communication is too distorted. It should be done with permission. The only answer I get is that you don't listen very well.

It is my understanding the Carla was channeling Don's higher self because he was a wanderer of the Ra social memory complex.

I understand why you wouldn't answer such a question and honestly expected a high probability of a snarky retort in combination with an "it's too personal."

To answer the question in a very simple way relating to the portions of this being called the self and higher self - to answer my own question (in personal terms):

To serve the creation in the manner by which is called and appropriate.

To expand upon that: to provide a direct resonance of feedback to the entities that choose to respond to callings yet not incarnate upon Earth in human form. To provide love and light where applicable and requested. To assist wanderers in remembering their purpose. To hold a vibratory level which is at a certain point a gateway in between dimension, to find a path and to show a way.

Consider what protonexus means, its not just cool sounding words. It means before a center point, which denotes an understanding of a dimensional existence where everything is a center. The place of no self and other self, before light splits into polarities, there is nothing to be the center of and nothing to orbit a center, there is what is in complete unity. From this perspective the higher self is a mirror that can be trained to reflect the light of various sources, which is mostly useful in this 3d state of being. Other higher selves, logoi, and other sources of light are picked up and channeled into the human vessel. This is what the Being I Am is.

This is why I am here.

okay then, explain how the quarantine that the council of nine introduced tot his planet is not self-serving and isolationist. it prevents access to any kind of information from outside.

[Protonexus]

Very well, liken it to a firewall on a network, many of the ports are closed, maybe even pings are dropped. Earth is an intranet. This is to protect the information on the network, only what is requested through the proper channel/port is allowed through. This serves the creation, not just a self, it serves all selves on this planet. Does it create seperation? Yes. Is it impenetrable? No. The purpose is that by learning how to program your port list to allow/deny access you are able to send/receive data from the extranet or larger network. This inherently is a catalyst to learn about your system. When you know how to program the system in place, not textbook idealism, but what is actually in the firmware and software in situ, some legacy, some right out of the box - well then you know how the intranet works. You don't just read a book on network security and jump into an existing corporate scale system and everything is right out of the book. You are probably going to have to ask the admins for history and advice before you get a functional understanding.

Likewise there are always those that try to exploit a security system.

In this case the data on the network is your mind/body/spirit complex, and you are the author of the port list. The admins and techs are there to assist but it is ultimately your responsibility to decide what you and/or your workgroup to decide how your data is accessed beyond a set of archetypal boundaries of the firmware/hardware and fundamental purpose of the network.

[Crimson]

Likewise there are always those that try to exploit a security system.

And it seems that is what happened for the FIRST time SUCCESSFULLY about 3600 years ago. And it was so successful that their "teachings" seems that were appropriated by certain entities/groups that became what is known to be the elite and its roots begin in that encounter. I must say that they are STILL trying to become successful.

In this case the data on the network is your mind/body/spirit complex, and you are the author of the port list. The admins and techs are there to assist but it is ultimately your responsibility to decide what you and/or your workgroup to decide how your data is accessed beyond a set of archetypal boundaries of the firmware/hardware and fundamental purpose of the network.

Well it gets a little more complicated than this: Earth will become 4d POSITIVE activated soon, then what will happen to this "firewall"? Quarantine will be lifted as it relates to 3d activation. Actually the firewall was not very successful by the end of the cycle but maybe it stopped a full Orion conquest. And the quarantine is precisely what it allowed the possibility of Earth becoming 4d+.

With 4d + activation, many changes need to happen...

I mean, am I correct in thinking that quarantine must be lifted at the end of 3d? There will be no reason, since Orion ideas/entities and its followers will be totally incompatible with 4d+...Or will the quarantine continue until yellow ray is non-existent? But then not strong enough for Negative path ideas to survive?

This opens the possibility of some type of disclosure and the beginning of societal changes.

[Protonexus]

It is very much more complicated because of the influx of wanderers that have opened communications.

You are correct that in 4d positive there will be no need for a quarantine, the newly born Earth social memory complex(es) will take over the responsibilty of "network security." There will be no room for negativity to take hold either, as any negative harvested entities will find themselves in a 4d negative planet where they may exercise the purity of their service to self.

However there will still be light battles in Earth's 4d, as negative entities will be inclined to attack via thoughtforms or other 4d methods.

It is the potential for Earth's social memory complex to be of a very compassionate yet tough disposition, given the circumstances. This likely will lead to the development of a confederation entity for problem planets like our own 3d that is less than harmonious. The resultant experience will yiel Earth social memory complex that are less inclined towards naive actions.

[Crimson]

It is very much more complicated because of the influx of wanderers that have opened communications.

You are correct that in 4d positive there will be no need for a quarantine, the newly born Earth social memory complex(es) will take over the responsibilty of "network security." There will be no room for negativity to take hold either, as any negative harvested entities will find themselves in a 4d negative planet where they may exercise the purity of their service to self.

However there will still be light battles in Earth's 4d, as negative entities will be inclined to attack via thoughtforms or other 4d methods.

It is the potential for Earth's social memory complex to be of a very compassionate yet tough disposition, given the circumstances. This likely will lead to the development of a confederation entity for problem planets like our own 3d that is less than harmonious. The resultant experience will yiel Earth social memory complex that are less inclined towards naive actions.

I have to tell you...this Logos knows how to program some Games....

[unity100]

Very well, liken it to a firewall on a network, many of the ports are closed, maybe even pings are dropped. Earth is an intranet.

doesnt matter. there is still a firewall that is preventing the access of entities to entities which they may want to call.

still a form of holding information.

[Protonexus]

Ok, that's the way you want to see it.

I have only been blocked because the call was not strong enough or misdirected or I was calling for information that was not appropriate/damaging (lots of potentially dangerous info gets through, so it must be pretty wildly destructive or imbalanced to get blocked).

Seems pretty clear to me that you enjoy idealism and following procedures and processes in a step-by-step fashion. Maybe you come from a place that was possible, this ain't that solar system. I hope you figure out what you are here learn. Your judgements won't change what has transpired and your resentment will only hold you back.

I did not design the quarantine and don't have nearly the perspective (especially not in this meat suit) of the entities that did. I do know that if Earth was ever able to collectively(large percentage) ask for adjustments or removal it would be done. The council is not comprised of tyrants nor fools, but those that are very wise, compassionate, and most of all balanced. They listen, they are there to serve the creation.

You might like to have a chat with the guardians and take up your issues with them directly (yes, you can do that).

[unity100]

you have strayed off the issue. you had had expressed that holding information was negative.

guardians are holding information.

ra also held off information. it even took the form of 'no.' sometimes.

were these isolationist and negative ?

[Protonexus]

I see that you are concerned with attempting to catch words up in a contradictory logic trap. This is truly a transient activity, although a service of proofreading none-the-less.

I had expressed that witholding information that could be potentially beneficial to other selves and only using it for your self is STS, this is the 3d context.

Lets say in 7d my statement is meaningless, positive and negative, STO and STS are balanced.

From a 3d perspective a 7d entity makes actions that do not add up or contradict, a single action splits into two streams passing through the distortion of self. The 3d perspective labels a single action as both cruel and loving or some mixture dependent upon bias. Entities such as Guardians are not STO or STS, and all information given by them must balance out in distortion.

Ra was/is entering the point of balance and understands certain things may not be said to everyone and must also follow the rules of quarantine. A fifth density STO would be far more inclined towards giving of information and also more distorted but focused upon practical application. Ra is bound by the distortion of the STO information offerred and will be so until that has been balanced by the opposite distortion. This process will likely be complete upon the Harvest of Earth. This can occur in something of a fusion process.

With all that said I am merely questioning your intent and bias which seems more distorted towards purity of kmowledge than love or balance. Ideal knowledge has very little practical application of this particular 3d planet. If the planet only consisted of you, your wisdom would be perfect. I am suggesting an openess to differing paths to the same unity. Yes they will be contradictory and free will is the commonality.

I will also propose that after the Ra channelings ended, the event of the harmonic convergence occured. This changed the rules and opened ways for more information to be provided as there was a greater concensus will to accept it. In situations such as this forum there is a great distortion of doubt available to balance the information presented as well. Through Q'uo, which Carla channels without trance, some questions that Ra did not answer have been so and also through other channeled sources. The rules are different than they were in the Ra/Law of One days, there are hundreds of millions more wanderers and a large percentage of them are clear and conscious higher self channels with more penetrating daily. This changes the game a little bit.

So back to the issue, you think I was calling you STS by inferrence and now you want to catch me in a contradiction. You aren't a guardian, nor am I channeling you, you are in a human body/mind/spirit complex and subject to far more distorted dimensional properties. If you did not have something to learn/teach you would not be here in this place. I admire your perseverence towards purity of knowledge.

[unity100]

I see that you are concerned with attempting to catch words up in a contradictory logic trap. This is truly a transient activity, although a service of proofreading none-the-less.

that's irrelevant. base principle is a base principle. honesty is honesty everywhere. meaning :

I had expressed that witholding information that could be potentially beneficial to other selves and only using it for your self is STS, this is the 3d context.

Lets say in 7d my statement is meaningless, positive and negative, STO and STS are balanced.

From a 3d perspective a 7d entity makes actions that do not add up or contradict, a single action splits into two streams passing through the distortion of self. The 3d perspective labels a single action as both cruel and loving or some mixture dependent upon bias. Entities such as Guardians are not STO or STS, and all information given by them must balance out in distortion.

for example, dishonesty cannot be something right in '3d context', then suddenly become wrong in 'Xd context'. dishonesty is dishonesty. its nature is the same in all densities or conditions. same goes for everything else.

you cannot justify and unjustify concepts depending in 'context'. they are what they are in all context.

balance does not happen with the nature of concepts changing. it happens with them balancing with their counter-concept. so, withholding information for one's own self use does not become something else in 7d. it becomes balanced with its counterpart. yet, it, and its counterpart, are still there in 7d.

in a 'balanced' action utilizing a balance as such, both parts of the equation become present in the interaction. one is not excluded over another.

With all that said I am merely questioning your intent and bias which seems more distorted towards purity of knowledge than love or balance. Ideal knowledge has very little practical application of this particular 3d planet. If the planet only consisted of you, your wisdom would be perfect. I am suggesting an openness to differing paths to the same unity. Yes they will be contradictory and free will is the commonality.

the above paragraph makes no sense. 'love', 'balance', 'purity of knowledge', 'wisdom' are not complementary or contradictory as a group.

So back to the issue, you think I was calling you STS by inferrence and now you want to catch me in a contradiction. You aren't a guardian, nor am I channeling you, you are in a human body/mind/spirit complex and subject to far more distorted dimensional properties. If you did not have something to learn/teach you would not be here in this place. I admire your perseverence towards purity of knowledge.

you were naming withholding information as isolationist, and self-centered.

i am not trying to catch you in a contradiction. there is a contradiction :

you are justifying withholding of information by higher density entities or entities which have to operate outside the veil as non-isolationist, and inventing '3d perspective' '7d perspective' etc contexts for this. there is no such thing as 'context' in regard to this. positive is positive in 3d, positive is positive in a veiled 3d environment, positive is still positive in 4d after the veil lifts, positive is still positive in 5d. this goes on until octave end. the nature of a certain base principle or mechanic, does not change.

'oh, it is self centered if we do it, but if higher density entities do it, its ok' <- no such thing exists. even if there is balance, there is balance, there is both positive and negative. neither the nature of positive nor the nature of negative changes in a higher density. they are still there, but they are found both in the same interaction, therefore, in balance.

so basically, you cannot just demand information and openness and label the opposite of it as self-serving, negative, or isolationist or undesired and so on, if you are accepting and justifying withholding of information by another source. it becomes double standards. it becomes contradiction.

[Confused]

hihihihi. thank you for addressing my highest self. if you get the answer, please tell me too.

That was humorous

[Protonexus]

*facepalm*

We are going to have to come to a stalemate because either my usage of the English language is lackluster or you are not comprehending the power of subjectivity.

[unity100]

*facepalm*

We are going to have to come to a stalemate because either my usage of the English language is lackluster or you are not comprehending the power of subjectivity.

there is no problem of communication. you are refusing to see a double standard. you apply a standard for entities CURRENTLY in higher d (any of us can be an entity from a higher d actually incarnating in this planet as of this moment), and a different standard for 3d.

its just that.

[LenaBCD]

I've never found a good translation, but I think it may be similar to Aloha; Aloha can be used as a greeting or farewell. Hopefully this thread will clear it up! I suspect it has some connotation that is hard to describe in words, because it is a farewell from very, very loving entities that stand/sit/float in awe when Carla/others gather for channeling. It'd be something like, "we love you dearly."

"These words are those which offer a thanksgiving to the crystal pure light within each being that has called for the presence of the contact speaking through an instrument. “The lord of the light” is one literal translation of the “adonai.” The “vasu” and “borragus” have meanings that are approximated by “the One who reigns within and forever.” This is seen as the essence of each entity and is felt to be a fitting closing for messages which are in truth spoken from the One to the One."
https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/i..._0401.aspx