The mystery of disclosure

[zenmaster]

Historically, "Disclosure" was to be a function of the govt. It is not unreasonable to assume that govt also understands the can-of-worms chaos that would ensure if they "admitted" something on the subject. So anything the govt knows on the subject would be difficult, if not impossible to relate to the masses without huge problems. Logically, due to the presuppositions, it will prob not happen from any govt. that wants a peaceful citizenry.

Really? When the polls state that 80% of the population already believes this anyway? I think your argument might have been true in the 50's. But a lot has changed.

Also I remind you guys that already about 6 governments have disclosed massive amounts of information. Basically stating "Yes this is real" and we don't see any panic or riots. Among these countries are some traditionally very catholic countries. The churches are not emptying.

You could describe the public reaction on the whole as surprisingly uninterested. People these days don't panic or get excited until they're told to panic or get excited. They simply don't have a frame of reference for this. Nobody told them how to respond.

And that's what I think will happen. Unless the media jumps on the disclosure bandwagon we're not going to see any response from the larger population at all. Sad but true.

Let's be clear. What the polls say is that those 80% people believe that ET life exists. Of course, it is not merely the "announcement" that ET life exists that constitutes "disclosure". It would be the explanation of the details that will be unacceptable and rejected by many. So far, what the govts have "disclosed" are mostly uninteresting incidents, open to interpretation.

[Ali Quadir]

And that's what I think will happen. Unless the media jumps on the disclosure bandwagon we're not going to see any response from the larger population at all. Sad but true.

Let's be clear. What the polls say is that those 80% people believe that ET life exists. Of course, it is not merely the "announcement" that ET life exists that constitutes "disclosure". It would be the explanation of the details that will be unacceptable and rejected by many. So far, what the govts have "disclosed" are mostly uninteresting incidents, open to interpretation.

Well, I'm hardly as enthusiastic as you are about mankind's willingness to object.

I can give you hundreds of examples from history where you'd expect people to massively riot and lynch their governments. Instead nothing happened.

And the suggestion you give about "uninteresting incidents" is clearly not informed about the actual cases that were released. Not all of them were lights in the sky. There are close encounters, combinations of radar, ground and visual evidence, sometimes hundreds of people have seen the ufo's. Some of the released cases are incredible.

Also if they disclose they won't show us how deep the rabbit hole goes. Certainly not right away. They will likely just say something like "Here they are, we've been in peaceful relations to them for decades." Nothing about Roswell, nothing about area 51, nothing about any of the dark projects, nothing about free energy. Nothing. Just the affirmation that they exist. Followed by a lot of public interest stories like: "What clothes do they wear?"

That's what it's going to be like the first period. Very little information. A few photos' an occasional interview. Perhaps a documentary. Disclosure isn't going to be instantaneous, it's a continuation of a process that is already underway as we speak. I'd call the disclosure moment the moment where the official line changes from "We don't know about aliens" to "We are in contact with aliens"...

[Richard]

Disclosure will be...(and is)...a gradual insertion of possibilities in the various cultural memes. Its happening now. Though...its anybody's guess when it will conclude.

Richard

[Ashim]

This is not the problem that it seems to be. The viewpoints being expressed do reflect earthly matters.
The people have been suppressed in all areas of their lives for so many Cycles. We know of failed previous Cycles that can serve to re-enforce this type of opinion.
You are also supposing that all people search for information and truth the same way that you do.
Media has been used, up till now, to influence and mostly to depress the people not conscious of their choice to pay attention or to not. This, in theory could be reversed through a polarity shift.
Remember either WE shift or the planet shifts, in a physical way.
The 'disclosure' event should take place at a particular time for each culture.
I could certainly think of one such festival that would apply to my particular culture.
The Holy Books have been crafted in such a way as to gently guide every Soul on their path to enlightenment.

Love & Light


There is a bigger picture.

Love & Light

[Lavazza]

One of the main problems that will be faced with disclosure is the reaction of the established religions. Today's religions are huge institutions that depend on the people believing certain ideas. Disclosure will bring new information that will challenge all religions, even as it proves that they all carry the basic truth within them. Some people will welcome this, others will insist that their religion is still superior.

I don't think the religion factor is actually a problem in this case. Religion has been the whipping boy of science for some hundreds years now. First the discovery that the Earth was not the center of the universe.. that one went down hard, but it's now almost every human on Earth will say it's true. Then the next biggie was Darwin and his theory of evolution. Again, the same problem although nobody was burned alive this time. There are always those who reject it, and prefere we go back to the mindset of perhaps 500 years ago, but by and large we're moving on collectively. UFO disclosure would just be another hurdle for religions (western religion at any rate) to jump over or embrace. In fact, some are doing that already!

There is also a huge dilemma that science will face, as they are provided with new methods to understand the universe. A new race for better understanding will begin, that may alter the current influences that are found in the world.

Science will be the bigger obstacle in my opinion. The scientific community is biased against such topics as UFOs for it has become an uncredible subject and taboo to research it professionally. This is a much larger topic that relates to science.. Where religion held the mantle of wisdom in centuries past, that duty has been given to science today. We look to it for answers that the church used to provide. Scientists themselves are very often viewed as priests of truth. I'm comfortable with that for the most part, but when the first response of the scientific community is rebuke and ridicule when such topics as PSI research, near death experiences and UFOlogy are presented, you can see there is a problem. For this reason I'm a little doubtful of the soft disclosure method... I think at some point, if the topic is ever going to reach the masses, there needs to be some sort of impactful event or official announcement made so that scientists will be forced to look at the evidence critically and cease kidding themselves (and the general public). Just my two cents!

L&L, ~E

[Ali Quadir]

Science will be the bigger obstacle in my opinion. The scientific community is biased against such topics as UFOs for it has become an uncredible subject and taboo to research it professionally.

I suspect that as soon as real aliens begin appearing on television this is going to change You're right, science can be close minded. But the excellent thing about them is that generally they're only close minded until you show credible evidence of your point. I think when the president of the USA tells people ufo's are real, scientists will allow themselves to look into the subject.

Most scientists I know love science fiction.

[Lavazza]

I suspect that as soon as real aliens begin appearing on television this is going to change You're right, science can be close minded. But the excellent thing about them is that generally they're only close minded until you show credible evidence of your point. I think when the president of the USA tells people ufo's are real, scientists will allow themselves to look into the subject.

Most scientists I know love science fiction.

Yeah, that's the sort of thing I'm talking about- something that forces people to look at the evidence. I guess it's a question of if this will ever actually happen. I mention this because so often things only happen in our reality when there is enough unconscious agreement that such a thing can, will or should happen. A good case in point are all the spiritualist groups and physical mediums of times past.. there were some extraordinary things that these people could do, but we just don't see that anymore these days. The theory here is that in the 1850's to early 1920's people were in that unconscious mindset that would allow these things to enter their reality. After that period we saw the rise psychology, physics and increased skepticism towards the paranormal thanks to prominent debunkers like Houdini.

I see a similar landscape out there today with our scientific community. It's a taboo subject so the fastest way to have your research funding swept out from under your feet is to start talking about flying saucers. The general public, although obviously interested by the example of Hollywood and books, looks to science to answer questions about the world we live in. This is sort of a vicious cycle of sorts and I can't see an easy way out of it other than to have some sort of white house lawn landing... But how can a landing like that take place when there is no environment of acceptance for it to take place in (free will distortion)?

I guess it could be said that there must be some acceptance already since we have such events as UFO sightings already. The closest we've seen to a white house lawn landing was probably the Pheonix lights in 1997. Who knows, maybe there is hope for some sort of large scale event yet But I guess my end all point is that soft disclosure may not be the means to any fruitful end. I hope I'm wrong on that.

L&L, Eric

[Ali Quadir]

Reality is the end result of the conflict between rivalling gangs of programmers

About those spiritists. I think it's more a matter of what you and I believe in than the work of those debunkers. One of my frequent criticisms of the occultists in the netherlands. Those I know, is that they often don't believe in the occult. It's a game to them just to add some mystery to life. They have big stories about phenomenal events that changed their lives for ever and were very special. But matter of fact magick, it just does not exist for them.

I've seen a few people light cigarettes on their palm chakra. My ex knew someone who could turn invisible at will. And she described several situations in which he did it. I've seen the works of brujeras the southwestern european witches. And I know of instances where they actually killed people with their magick. I've seen teeth grow, hair change color. All that stuff still exists today.. But to what degree do we allow it into our lives? I realize I still lock it out.

That law of free will is a physical law on our level. It can't even be broken. I've seen situations where ordinary people were playing with magick. They were having fun sending telepathic messages back and forth... The next they they had forgotten all about it.. Literally gone from their mind. They blocked it out. And when I asked about it they didn't remember anything apart from having a lot of fun the previous day. When we explained what had happened they were just staring at us. Clearly they didn't know what to make of US. What we were telling was clearly nonsense but we seemed to believe it....

Also in psi training there is this notion of your psi strength, if it's zero it means you cannot perform any psionic activity. Anything higher and you get better at it... But it can also be negative. A very strong negative psi means people who otherwise would be able to, cannot perform psi tricks around you. It's like your will imposes your reality on those around you.

[Ashim]

First contact must use and operate under the Integration Protocol.

Love & Light

[zanny]

Reality is the end result of the conflict between rivalling gangs of programmers



Also in psi training there is this notion of your psi strength, if it's zero it means you cannot perform any psionic activity. Anything higher and you get better at it... But it can also be negative. A very strong negative psi means people who otherwise would be able to, cannot perform psi tricks around you. It's like your will imposes your reality on those around you.

Hi Ali, this is off topic but I would very much like to learn more about what you are talking about here. Did you participate in experiments with psi-training? Can we start another thread where you explain this more in-depth?
Or, if you do not feel comfortable with that could you PM me?
zanny

[Ashim]

The only real mystery is if Terence McKenna was right with his opinion that MTV would not broadcast the revolution.
I'm not so sure myself.

Love & Light

Now I know who will be in charge of the 'fireworks display'.

Ground control to major Tom................

Love & Light

[litllady]

In Spiritual things and in self development (awakening to ones true nature)-what good is a disclosure?

Do we need disclosure to accomplish our highest prime potentials on Earth?

Could the whole 'disclosure' thing be a distraction in itself....distracting us from what we really need to be focusing on?

Could 'waiting' on something cause a stall in our 'be-ing' here and now?

Is such really what is important in the 'now'? Or could it be just another one of those many things that mankind waits on...stalling his/her own self to accept what already is and needs to be worked on?

I have recently taken a big turn from the whole disclosure thing and find that its not important. That it doesnt 'need to be'.

[Nabil Naser]

We have been receiving information for a long time now. Isn't the teachings of Ra a kind of disclosure?
Moving forward, we could use more information about the nature of reality. Disclosure is simply that.

In Spiritual things and in self development (awakening to ones true nature)-what good is a disclosure?

Do we need disclosure to accomplish our highest prime potentials on Earth?

Could the whole 'disclosure' thing be a distraction in itself....distracting us from what we really need to be focusing on?

Could 'waiting' on something cause a stall in our 'be-ing' here and now?

Is such really what is important in the 'now'? Or could it be just another one of those many things that mankind waits on...stalling his/her own self to accept what already is and needs to be worked on?

I have recently taken a big turn from the whole disclosure thing and find that its not important. That it doesnt 'need to be'.

[litllady]

We have been receiving information for a long time now. Isn't the teachings of Ra a kind of disclosure?
Moving forward, we could use more information about the nature of reality. Disclosure is simply that.

In Spiritual things and in self development (awakening to ones true nature)-what good is a disclosure?

Do we need disclosure to accomplish our highest prime potentials on Earth?

Could the whole 'disclosure' thing be a distraction in itself....distracting us from what we really need to be focusing on?

Could 'waiting' on something cause a stall in our 'be-ing' here and now?

Is such really what is important in the 'now'? Or could it be just another one of those many things that mankind waits on...stalling his/her own self to accept what already is and needs to be worked on?

I have recently taken a big turn from the whole disclosure thing and find that its not important. That it doesnt 'need to be'.

I see all as 'one'...a part of one Spirit. We can all gain access to 'phases' of this 'one' depending on our desires of what we want to know (the questions we ask) as well as what we are able to understand. I dont take the idea of 'names of soul groups or names of high selves' to be literal....but more images from our unconsciousness as a collective whole as well as personal creativity added to the message that comes to the surface.

I dont find all the details that the Law of One gives about mankinds history or earths history to be what is important. I think all information that is sought through a 'channel' is laced with our desires and can be a large distraction for us. I think the most valuable information is not that there was other beings here or where they came from ect ect....but is what life has to teach us about acceptance, love, compassion, respect, learning unselfish living, learning awareness to our actions and behaviors, learning how all that we do influences others and how what all others do influences us.

The messages through channeling doesnt come with bad intent...but the questions we ask are filled with desires that are not what is the main importance here.

Im not insulting channeling....but find it can be a major distraction. Its not the info that gets given but the desires in the questions that are asked.

I dont think the Law of One or any other material gives us a absolute disclosure. I dont think we are here to wait on something. I dont think that the most precious information for this experience is something that must be given to us that means it cant be found in life itself.

You can choose to believe all that channel material says it is...but I find it tightly linked to a united desire of mankind, due to the kind of questions man chases. Spiritual wisdom and Earthly wisdom are two different things and like most materials, the Law of One has both wisdoms therein. Some will be more attracted to the names of things in history, the stories of man, the future things that are to come....and some will be mroe resonating with the Spiritual wisdom in the material like doing the right things because you understand they are a better way and not just because you wish to be rewarded in the path of self.

I think in all materials we need to discern between the earthly wisdoms and spiritual wisdoms. If we are on a path of self, its likely the earthly wisdoms will attract us more. If we are on a path of letting the Spirit work through us, our souls will be attracted to the Spiritual wisdom and will worry not about the details of mans past.

For some it may be disclosure....to me, its not. I have no sound proof that there is beings elsewhere communicating with us and that I can have proof that the information that does come to us is something we ALWAYS have known (as a phase of Spirit) and are just tapping into the 'oneness' of all that has been and is.

For a long time I thought I had memories or knowings of past lives. Now I see it that I am allowed to see certain past experiences because those are the ones that can teach me something or offer me something. There is only ONE that incarnates into every life/experience and I call this the Holy Spirit...I call our souls 'phases of this Spirit'...and when we are given messages or information that seems beyond us or in the past to us personally, I think it is what the Spirit is giving itself in a particular phase of being because it has something to offer that being or the world.

To sum it up in a generic and general way....we can tap into many phases of the 'godhead'. So I dont see this tapping into such a record of information as 'disclosure'.

But welcome any further discussion on this. I have been getting a very strange vibe lately when I hear so many looking for disclosure to the world that aliens and other life are in contact with us.

I find it no happenstance that a couple thousand years ago...messages came to man through the images of angels, for that is what was a fresh image in the unconsciousness of mankind to be used as a 'messenger' in the mind. Now....many are experiencing the messenger as a different image, alien form...it seems the angels are becoming a endangered species of mankind's collective unconsciousness.

As a 'one' we all know in some unveiled way...the history here of Earth and man. The details may not be important though. The experience of now, of behaviors, of energy, of our inner nature amongst all other nature...is what is important.

What good does it do to one that believes aliens or evolved beings are in contact with us?

---

And about saying that we could use more information about the nature of reality.

Think about this question I bring to you for a moment.

Do you really think we are to be given this information? Are we not to seek nature and find understanding of this experience without being given the answers?

Sometimes when someone gives you the answer to the math problem...they really didnt help you that much. But if you learn the formula through trial and error, you understand the problem and works on a much deeper level then when someone just gave you the answer.

I dont think we are to be given the answers about this reality but we gain more by thousands of years of mankind evolving his understanding of it through time. That is why I think every religion and culture of time has its place. People want to call alot of it lies and deception....but all beliefs served a understanding for a certain time and its people.

And if you are given answers....and they resonate with you...how can you be sure they are not only resonating due to they satisfy the illusion part of you, the self, the ego, the 'I'? How can you be sure of their worth on a worldly level, spiritual level, a true evolving level in the path of service to others. Im not bashing the Law of One...for on my path of self development it gave me alot, leaps in fact.

I may be a rare one that has studied the Law of One...for in the end, it showed me I did not come here for a harvest at all, but this was simply a test to my nature just like the christian religion idea of 'being saved'. So it taught me the opposite of what it teaches many others and I feel like a odd ball of the Law of One.

Please dont think I have anything against those that await a harvest or await ascension....but I think its important to share that it took me down a very different path. In fact, it the Law of One studies ended with me when I was having an experience of standing on the edge of a black hold and was given the choice to 'stay or to go'. I chose to stay...and have not read any of the Law of One since then. I only share a different learning from it all. That it in itself, is another test to our nature. A weight and measure of us as phases of Spirit. Just my own limited perspective. I think harvest of a soul happens after death and can happen at any time....has always been happening and is not something that only happens during certain 'times'. I think one can change their body vibration at any time also. I think the number and details of a material can be a distraction. BUT...they can help us broaden our minds in keeping them open, knowing there are many possibilities.

I dont think the majority that are attracted to the Law of One are here for a harvest or ascension. I think if the idea of harvest attracts a being....they are not aware that they are still on the path of 'service to self'.

I think its all just a test....and we are given certain information from the 'one' to serve like a winepress of sorts...to sift out what each beings is living for and where the Spirit is renewing and awakening to its true nature. None of the seeking or desires are right or wrong....but all show what the being is ready for or is in need of due to their personal desires or attractions.

The story of the Buddha refusing to enter heaven is one of the things that awoke me to what path I was to be on. And the story of Jesus talking about what glory is there for one being to have glory in the self while many others of Spirit await their glory.

Alot of that is probably so irrelevant to this thread....but it does kinda of link to my reasons for why I dont think disclosure is what we are to be focusing on and explain why some are so attracted to the idea of disclosure taking place.

What purpose does it serve when one believes that there is proof of higher evolved beings giving us information?

[Nabil Naser]

I agree with what you wrote, but we are here to learn and teach. Disclosure does not have to be specifically about higher intelligence, it can be also about our own nature. We meditate in order to be one with creation, and learn new things. Learning about our nature through information shared with us allows us to progress in the paths that we choose.
Disclosure may be of help for some, but not necessarily all. Those who are ready for the information will understand it and use it.
At the same time, all of us will continue to live with nature and each other, growing and learning.

We have been receiving information for a long time now. Isn't the teachings of Ra a kind of disclosure?
Moving forward, we could use more information about the nature of reality. Disclosure is simply that.

In Spiritual things and in self development (awakening to ones true nature)-what good is a disclosure?

Do we need disclosure to accomplish our highest prime potentials on Earth?

Could the whole 'disclosure' thing be a distraction in itself....distracting us from what we really need to be focusing on?

Could 'waiting' on something cause a stall in our 'be-ing' here and now?

Is such really what is important in the 'now'? Or could it be just another one of those many things that mankind waits on...stalling his/her own self to accept what already is and needs to be worked on?

I have recently taken a big turn from the whole disclosure thing and find that its not important. That it doesnt 'need to be'.

I see all as 'one'...a part of one Spirit. We can all gain access to 'phases' of this 'one' depending on our desires of what we want to know (the questions we ask) as well as what we are able to understand. I dont take the idea of 'names of soul groups or names of high selves' to be literal....but more images from our unconsciousness as a collective whole as well as personal creativity added to the message that comes to the surface.

I dont find all the details that the Law of One gives about mankinds history or earths history to be what is important. I think all information that is sought through a 'channel' is laced with our desires and can be a large distraction for us. I think the most valuable information is not that there was other beings here or where they came from ect ect....but is what life has to teach us about acceptance, love, compassion, respect, learning unselfish living, learning awareness to our actions and behaviors, learning how all that we do influences others and how what all others do influences us.

The messages through channeling doesnt come with bad intent...but the questions we ask are filled with desires that are not what is the main importance here.

Im not insulting channeling....but find it can be a major distraction. Its not the info that gets given but the desires in the questions that are asked.

I dont think the Law of One or any other material gives us a absolute disclosure. I dont think we are here to wait on something. I dont think that the most precious information for this experience is something that must be given to us that means it cant be found in life itself.

You can choose to believe all that channel material says it is...but I find it tightly linked to a united desire of mankind, due to the kind of questions man chases. Spiritual wisdom and Earthly wisdom are two different things and like most materials, the Law of One has both wisdoms therein. Some will be more attracted to the names of things in history, the stories of man, the future things that are to come....and some will be mroe resonating with the Spiritual wisdom in the material like doing the right things because you understand they are a better way and not just because you wish to be rewarded in the path of self.

I think in all materials we need to discern between the earthly wisdoms and spiritual wisdoms. If we are on a path of self, its likely the earthly wisdoms will attract us more. If we are on a path of letting the Spirit work through us, our souls will be attracted to the Spiritual wisdom and will worry not about the details of mans past.

For some it may be disclosure....to me, its not. I have no sound proof that there is beings elsewhere communicating with us and that I can have proof that the information that does come to us is something we ALWAYS have known (as a phase of Spirit) and are just tapping into the 'oneness' of all that has been and is.

For a long time I thought I had memories or knowings of past lives. Now I see it that I am allowed to see certain past experiences because those are the ones that can teach me something or offer me something. There is only ONE that incarnates into every life/experience and I call this the Holy Spirit...I call our souls 'phases of this Spirit'...and when we are given messages or information that seems beyond us or in the past to us personally, I think it is what the Spirit is giving itself in a particular phase of being because it has something to offer that being or the world.

To sum it up in a generic and general way....we can tap into many phases of the 'godhead'. So I dont see this tapping into such a record of information as 'disclosure'.

But welcome any further discussion on this. I have been getting a very strange vibe lately when I hear so many looking for disclosure to the world that aliens and other life are in contact with us.

I find it no happenstance that a couple thousand years ago...messages came to man through the images of angels, for that is what was a fresh image in the unconsciousness of mankind to be used as a 'messenger' in the mind. Now....many are experiencing the messenger as a different image, alien form...it seems the angels are becoming a endangered species of mankind's collective unconsciousness.

As a 'one' we all know in some unveiled way...the history here of Earth and man. The details may not be important though. The experience of now, of behaviors, of energy, of our inner nature amongst all other nature...is what is important.

What good does it do to one that believes aliens or evolved beings are in contact with us?

---

And about saying that we could use more information about the nature of reality.

Think about this question I bring to you for a moment.

Do you really think we are to be given this information? Are we not to seek nature and find understanding of this experience without being given the answers?

Sometimes when someone gives you the answer to the math problem...they really didnt help you that much. But if you learn the formula through trial and error, you understand the problem and works on a much deeper level then when someone just gave you the answer.

I dont think we are to be given the answers about this reality but we gain more by thousands of years of mankind evolving his understanding of it through time. That is why I think every religion and culture of time has its place. People want to call alot of it lies and deception....but all beliefs served a understanding for a certain time and its people.

And if you are given answers....and they resonate with you...how can you be sure they are not only resonating due to they satisfy the illusion part of you, the self, the ego, the 'I'? How can you be sure of their worth on a worldly level, spiritual level, a true evolving level in the path of service to others. Im not bashing the Law of One...for on my path of self development it gave me alot, leaps in fact.

I may be a rare one that has studied the Law of One...for in the end, it showed me I did not come here for a harvest at all, but this was simply a test to my nature just like the christian religion idea of 'being saved'. So it taught me the opposite of what it teaches many others and I feel like a odd ball of the Law of One.

Please dont think I have anything against those that await a harvest or await ascension....but I think its important to share that it took me down a very different path. In fact, it the Law of One studies ended with me when I was having an experience of standing on the edge of a black hold and was given the choice to 'stay or to go'. I chose to stay...and have not read any of the Law of One since then. I only share a different learning from it all. That it in itself, is another test to our nature. A weight and measure of us as phases of Spirit. Just my own limited perspective. I think harvest of a soul happens after death and can happen at any time....has always been happening and is not something that only happens during certain 'times'. I think one can change their body vibration at any time also. I think the number and details of a material can be a distraction. BUT...they can help us broaden our minds in keeping them open, knowing there are many possibilities.

I dont think the majority that are attracted to the Law of One are here for a harvest or ascension. I think if the idea of harvest attracts a being....they are not aware that they are still on the path of 'service to self'.

I think its all just a test....and we are given certain information from the 'one' to serve like a winepress of sorts...to sift out what each beings is living for and where the Spirit is renewing and awakening to its true nature. None of the seeking or desires are right or wrong....but all show what the being is ready for or is in need of due to their personal desires or attractions.

The story of the Buddha refusing to enter heaven is one of the things that awoke me to what path I was to be on. And the story of Jesus talking about what glory is there for one being to have glory in the self while many others of Spirit await their glory.

Alot of that is probably so irrelevant to this thread....but it does kinda of link to my reasons for why I dont think disclosure is what we are to be focusing on and explain why some are so attracted to the idea of disclosure taking place.

What purpose does it serve when one believes that there is proof of higher evolved beings giving us information?

[Ashim]

Star, flag and medal

Most beautiful words I have ever heard.

Thank you Nabil.

Proverbs 10.10

Love & Light

[Richard]

A lot of people seem to be equating disclosure with some sort of spiritual goal? I see disclosure as a validation of long held beliefs that the universe is teeming with life and that we have been visited..probably for thousands of years. My spiritual path is something else entirely. I can only assume that ET has their own beliefs in the nature of the Creator.

Perhaps, in time, we can sit down together and discuss how the universe works from our diverse perspectives.

Richard

[zenmaster]

A lot of people seem to be equating disclosure with some sort of spiritual goal? I see disclosure as a validation of long held beliefs that the universe is teeming with life and that we have been visited..probably for thousands of years.

I don't think many people use either of those two connotations for the word. Take a look at the "Disclosure Project" and what they're promoting. It's mainly about suppressed technology, government conspiracies, etc.

It's not at all about what NASA may find validating people's beliefs that ET life exists, for example. It's mainly about governments (typically super-power govts) admitting to a suspected long-time, orchestrated cover-up of proof and details about UFOs and their pilots.

[DarkSai]

When i saw the 60 degree light travelling thing, the first thing thought to myself was "I wonder if that fits into sine waves.." so opened up photoshop, grabbed an image of google, and plotted from 0 -> peak -> pi (180 degrees) and it definitely looks equilateral. I think this could have something to do with it, I'll leave it for those more interested to take it further.

[Nabil Naser]

I assume that you are talking about the 60 degree of wing left done by light as presented by Science News. It was a wonderful moment for me when a read that article. It happens to agree with the material that I have been sharing in the "Ra Code", in the science and technology section.
It become clear why light must have these 60 degree vibrations when considering packed spheres geometry.

When i saw the 60 degree light travelling thing, the first thing thought to myself was "I wonder if that fits into sine waves.." so opened up photoshop, grabbed an image of google, and plotted from 0 -> peak -> pi (180 degrees) and it definitely looks equilateral. I think this could have something to do with it, I'll leave it for those more interested to take it further.