A warning?

[Crimson]

Let me start by saying that I do not endorse this public figure (he could very well be part of the game by the negative elite of promoting fear and hopelessness) but he makes some interesting points.
I have been following his “Reflections” for a while now, in particular the ones dealing with the danger of a nuclear war.

Also about his “discovery” of the Bilderberg Group and its apparent role congruent with an elite that has very numerous tentacles. We have to realize as well that the amount of disinformation is incredible and that “controlled opposition” can be conscious (Alex Jones comes to mind) or unaware they are “controlled opposition” (David Icke for some reason comes to my mind). So it is very difficult to pinpoint a source of truth. However, if we take in consideration Ra's commentary about the negative path relying on fear, chaos, hate, etc...we can more or less disregard certain sources as dishonest or unaware.

But we now by now that nuclear war was an occurrence in other civilizations (Maldek, Mars). The possibility is indeed there. I suppose as a way for the elite to gain that 95% of negativity this “makes sense”.

Indeed, these affirmations are coming from a former head of state.

Here are s some links regarding “Reflections of Fidel”:

http://granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/17...flex1.html

http://granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/9j...tions.html

http://granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/5-...sible.html

http://granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/4a...tions.html

http://granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/19...ones1.html

http://granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/19...ones1.html


Shouldn't we unite forces to make sure something like this does not happen?

[unity100]

nuclear war doesnt 'make sense' for polarization. maldek's destruction entangled everyone it its catastrophe, noone was able to escape the consequences, leave aside polarizing for harvest. negative polarity needs enslavement, not complete destruction. the means to enslave entities are already present and built in to this society's system. only thing that is needed was the 'forcing/making entities work until they die' component, and this is readily being accomplished with worsening income distribution, appalling wages, and lessening control of employees upon their employment and removal of guarantees, like job security or social security or healthcare.

[Crimson]

nuclear war doesnt 'make sense' for polarization. maldek's destruction entangled everyone it its catastrophe, noone was able to escape the consequences, leave aside polarizing for harvest. negative polarity needs enslavement, not complete destruction. the means to enslave entities are already present and built in to this society's system. only thing that is needed was the 'forcing/making entities work until they die' component, and this is readily being accomplished with worsening income distribution, appalling wages, and lessening control of employees upon their employment and removal of guarantees, like job security or social security or healthcare.

I understand all that. However, what's the point of trying to enslave at the verge of this planet becoming 4th density positive? (Unless a few months close to 2012 or so is the only time needed). It can be accomplished by another economic "crash" but that is only a possibility.

On the other hand, the purpose could be as simple as to create a state of fear and hate (as usual) but magnified, as the time line approaches, so the majority of the population is fearful, hateful, sad, etc...That will contribute to the general consciousness of the planet.

[Questioner]

Hi Crimson, welcome to the forum.

How familiar are you with the Ra and Q'uo materials that are the foundation of this community?

I'm going to share my own perspectives. Please feel free to set aside anything that does not resonate with you. That way I can speak about my own view, without imposing anything on you. Also, in case you didn't know, my user name is to honor the late Don Elkins. OK, disclaimers are out of the way.

I don't know if there is a way to authenticate that the "Reflections" series is actually from the Cuban leader.

I believe that an important part of awakening is to become aware that there are evil, nasty, vicious, psychopathic people. And that these people will seize, manipulate, misuse any and all situations of power they can grab or create for themselves.

That they have done this throughout history, continue to do so, and sometimes collaborate when that is expedient... but could stab each other in the back as quickly as they ignore the value of those they oppress. Further, that they are influenced and guided by destructive spiritual forces.

That said, I believe this discovery is not the end of the journey.

I believe a more important discovery is that as we polarize to positive light and love, those manipulations have less and less effect on our own lives. That it is important to speak truth to power, but trying to save the world through politics is a dead end.

Ultimately, over the long run, humans tend to get the political leaders that resonate with their values. For a long time, so many humans have been held back in ignorance, brainwashing, or spiritual immaturity. So we have had leaders who reflect on or seize their opportunities inherent in that low level of general human awareness.

Now we seem to be reaching a spiritual crossroads. If countless channeled messages are right, including Ra and Q'uo, then we each have a profound choice based on the very core of our nature. If we choose an open hearted, balanced life of growth and sharing, we will find our physical nature migrates to a world of peace and harmony. If we choose a life of fear and rage, we will find our physical nature migrates to a world of even more intensely evil manipulations.

If this is true, then it is more important to open to our own potential for blessed union with Divine good. That is more powerful for us, and for the world, than journalistically exposing what is wrong.

The journalism about the world's ills, about corrupt leaders and political shenanigans, is like pointing out that there are bugs in the kitchen. The spiritual focus is like finding ourselves in a new, clean kitchen where all is cooked with love and deliciously fulfills all those who hunger for righteousness.

Please feel free to use any of this that helps you, and ignore the rest.

[Brittany]

I just can't bring myself to care what the "elite" are doing. I don't really doubt that there is a group of unknown individuals pretty much running the planet, using political figures as puppets, but what am I going to do about it? If they drop a bomb, I don't think jumping in front of it and yelling "STOP!" is going to do much, so I figure the most I can do is work on my own polarity. Regardless of whether the entire planet is enslaved or blown up or it moves into a new era of peace and harmony or something inbetween, there are still bountiful opportunities for catalyst and polarizing, and the soul will go on. Honestly, I'd have to feel bad for the guys. Seems like controlling the planet would be a huge pain in the arse. The hours are waaaay too long. :-)

[fairyfarmgirl]

Well said, Ahktu! I was thinking the same thing! These days I am working on my own inner world--- as the yogi that I studied with said--- there is no outside only the inside!

fairyfarmgirl

[Crimson]

Well said, Ahktu! I was thinking the same thing! These days I am working on my own inner world--- as the yogi that I studied with said--- there is no outside only the inside!

fairyfarmgirl

Well, I was thinking more in the sense of requesting help all of us for this not to happen and the law of squares.

Overall, I agree with the points made by the participants so far. The "elite" is not really the elite since they are just minions of higher densities.

Peace and Love.

[Questioner]

Ahktu I also like the way you put it.

Crimson, we can unite forces to invite positive higher entities into our experience. We can unite forces to aspire to a world of love, harmony, and peace. We can ask that divine light will help us have a world freed of evil's dark forces and their human henchmen.

Few of us have any opportunity or business trying to unite forces to do a political or military "regime change." My own opinion is that since WWII, there may not have been any morally justifiable reason for war as the least of evils. The elite get to rule because the masses are not spiritually awakened. That spiritual awakening will not come about by trying to force the issue... any issue.

Beyond prayerfully seeking a better world, I'm not clear on what specifically you suggest people unite and do.

[Brittany]

I can already tell many of the negative reins put on our society are starting to stretch, tear and snap. More and more, even in my own personal life, I see people just waking up and realizing what a laugh it all is...all this stuff we're so caught up in...all meaningless, so easily discarded, happiness floating right next to us the entire time, patiently waiting. I'd say the best way to help the situation is by example. When I started awakening I didn't think the things I did would make much impact, but so many people have noticed the changes in me and started making changes in their own lives! I used to feel like I had to do something major to save the world, like I had to go out a martyr to save everybody or my mission would be failed, but now I realize that EVERYTHING starts and ends with one. I think the perspective you take on everyday life is the largest weapon anyone could have against the shackles of ignorance and oppression. Knowledge really is power.

If any little temper tantrums occur within the next few years I think it is because our negative brothers and sisters realize they are losing this particular battle of fear and they're trying to get in as many hits as they can before the clock runs out...failure does not bode well for those who choose the dark path. There is everything to lose by failing, so even though their grip gets weaker and weaker, they still try to increase the intensity of each blow. I think the best way to mind these death throes is with mercy and compassion, realizing that these entities are doing their best to be of service in their own way. Let us be ready to offer love and acceptance if it is desired once all the smoke has cleared. That's all my opinion, anyway.

[Crimson]

Ahktu I also like the way you put it.

Crimson, we can unite forces to invite positive higher entities into our experience. We can unite forces to aspire to a world of love, harmony, and peace. We can ask that divine light will help us have a world freed of evil's dark forces and their human henchmen.


Few of us have any opportunity or business trying to unite forces to do a political or military "regime change." My own opinion is that since WWII, there may not have been any morally justifiable reason for war as the least of evils. The elite get to rule because the masses are not spiritually awakened. That spiritual awakening will not come about by trying to force the issue... any issue.

Beyond prayerfully seeking a better world, I'm not clear on what specifically you suggest people unite and do.

Yes I was referring to this action. Specifically possibility of nuclear war. We can include this in our asking.

I can already tell many of the negative reins put on our society are starting to stretch, tear and snap. More and more, even in my own personal life, I see people just waking up and realizing what a laugh it all is...all this stuff we're so caught up in...all meaningless, so easily discarded, happiness floating right next to us the entire time, patiently waiting. I'd say the best way to help the situation is by example. When I started awakening I didn't think the things I did would make much impact, but so many people have noticed the changes in me and started making changes in their own lives! I used to feel like I had to do something major to save the world, like I had to go out a martyr to save everybody or my mission would be failed, but now I realize that EVERYTHING starts and ends with one. I think the perspective you take on everyday life is the largest weapon anyone could have against the shackles of ignorance and oppression. Knowledge really is power.

If any little temper tantrums occur within the next few years I think it is because our negative brothers and sisters realize they are losing this particular battle of fear and they're trying to get in as many hits as they can before the clock runs out...failure does not bode well for those who choose the dark path. There is everything to lose by failing, so even though their grip gets weaker and weaker, they still try to increase the intensity of each blow. I think the best way to mind these death throes is with mercy and compassion, realizing that these entities are doing their best to be of service in their own way. Let us be ready to offer love and acceptance if it is desired once all the smoke has cleared. That's all my opinion, anyway.

Yes, this was a very beautiful and profound post. Thank you.

[Questioner]

I see the point of praying for peace. Personally, I don't see the point of trying to individually enumerate every problem that might be outside of my control.

May I please safely walk down this street, in harmony with all.
That's a prayer I can appreciate.

Also, may I please not get stabbed.
Also, may I please not get shot.
Also, may I please not find anyone sneaking up behind me with a noose.
Also, may I please not get my pockets picked.
Also, may I please not have anyone steal a kidney from me on this block.
Also, may I please not get run over by an 18 wheeler.
May I also not get run over by a steam roller.
May I also not get run over by a sports sedan.
May I not get run over by a silver Mercedes.
May I also not get run over by a red Ferrari.
Oh yes, may I also not find my planet obliterated by a nuclear war.
...

At what point are we inviting disaster into our lives, rather than averting it?

[Crimson]

I see the point of praying for peace. Personally, I don't see the point of trying to individually enumerate every problem that might be outside of my control.

May I please safely walk down this street, in harmony with all.
That's a prayer I can appreciate.

Also, may I please not get stabbed.
Also, may I please not get shot.
Also, may I please not find anyone sneaking up behind me with a noose.
Also, may I please not get my pockets picked.
Also, may I please not have anyone steal a kidney from me on this block.
Also, may I please not get run over by an 18 wheeler.
May I also not get run over by a steam roller.
May I also not get run over by a sports sedan.
May I not get run over by a silver Mercedes.
May I also not get run over by a red Ferrari.
Oh yes, may I also not find my planet obliterated by a nuclear war.
...

At what point are we inviting disaster into our lives, rather than averting it?

Honestly, I don't know exactly why you answered this post or why you gave this turn. For what is worth, I find these declarations by a former HEAD OF STATE intriguing. This is not asking not to get run over by a steam roller (why to make such a silly comment?).

Anyway, I consider this to be a new development. For what is worth, I wanted to make some people aware. Please do not answer posts in a troll- like manner.

All this could just be a way of promoting fear and I said it before. But go ahead keep finding "your inner light"...hopefully you can see any steam rollers coming out at you.

[Questioner]

Crimson, I apologize if my attempt at humor came across as condescending. You are raising serious points here.

My intent is to have a respectful exchange of ideas. With close to 1,000 posts from me here, you are certainly welcome to examine the evidence as to whether you can believe what I say about my intent. What seems to me to be a preponderance of positive reactions to these thousand posts by other forum participants, including moderators, may, I humbly submit, also be relevant evidence. I believe my present lapse of judgment was a sincere mistake of the moment and nothing more offensive. That said, I agree civility is important here and I ask forgiveness for my lapse.

I already asked if there was some kind of confirmation that the messages are indeed from Castro. I haven't seen your response. I apologize if I overlooked it.

May I try again to express my opinion, in a more factual way?

When walking down a street, one may have a goal of safety. One might also encounter various dangers, which seem to contradict that goal. Some dangers seem quite likely, some might seem plausible, some seem rather farfetched. Yet we simply do not know what we will encounter, until we encounter it.

A prayer for safety and harmony is all encompassing. In my own opinion, I suspect that such a simple, positive prayer is not made more powerful by enumerating all the dangerous harms which one knows about, or could imagine. I attempted to illustrate this point with a satirical exaggeration, for which it appears an apology is in order. I apologize for trying to use hyperbole, rather than making my point in a more direct way.

My desire was to make an analogy towards a prayerful invitation for divine contribution to world peace. I am unable to physically do anything about evil dictatorships, which certainly seem too entrenched for anyone to overthrow. The utmost I could possibly do to thwart them is to pray that they be removed through some spiritual means beyond my comprehension; beyond my ability to contribute in any way other than praying for peace.

My question is whether a prayer for peace and justice is more powerful if it includes requests that divine resources oppose specific scenarios of war and corruption which one might know about. My own personal answer is that the prayer for world peace is all inclusive, and not made more powerful by my ability to enumerate the specific evils and threats in the world.

If I ask and invite heavenly forces of good to block the efforts of evil, are they better able to do so based on information I might assemble in researching current events? I don't see how this could be the case. Spiritual forces would already, I assume, be in a better position than me to know where humanity is injured by political evils.

This is just my own perspective. It comes from my own attempts to use logic and intuition to conclude what I can personally do, when confronted the abundance of scary bad news available concerning current events and political woes worldwide. Without anyone else losing anything, I feel my own mind, heart, and spirit are better uplifted, and my potential to serve my fellow humans, is increased as I focus on things clearly in my power to bless, to love and to take action that can make tangible improvements.

Despite how I feel grounded and astute as I express this opinion, it may well be a foolish, unbalanced, spiritually immature perspective for me to have about my own life. Of course I've been mistaken about many things in my life. If that's the case here, I'd appreciate guidance towards a greater wisdom. May it be said that, from this perspective - however limited and ill-advised it may be - the Castro information might be interesting. It would not, however, be on the critical path towards my own healing and spiritual evolution.

I was quite taken aback with the apparent vigor of your offense at my post. I hope that we may be able to mend a relationship of mutually respectful conversation. Perhaps you might let me know if I've reasonably shown goodwill towards this goal. If you see me as having failed at this attempt, please let me know what else you believe would be fair.

[unity100]

I understand all that. However, what's the point of trying to enslave at the verge of this planet becoming 4th density positive? (Unless a few months close to 2012 or so is the only time needed). It can be accomplished by another economic "crash" but that is only a possibility.

process of enslavement is a natural result of negative path. it wouldnt make any difference whether the planet was going to be a negative, or a positive, or something even beyond (if there is, and there probably is), the negative entities would still try to enslave.

On the other hand, the purpose could be as simple as to create a state of fear and hate (as usual) but magnified, as the time line approaches, so the majority of the population is fearful, hateful, sad, etc...That will contribute to the general consciousness of the planet.

yes, and they would rule over a pile of crap, a nuclear wasteland which turned to some medieval-victorian mad max world. isnt desirable for them.

[Steppingfeet]

Dear Crimson,

I am no moral or spiritual authority, but… I am a moderator who is duty-bound to help small fires not become large fires – indeed, to do my utmost to prevent fires altogether – and for that reason I desire to offer a thought.

In your recent post to this thread, you had a reaction to Questioner that initiated a process between you and him which require your mutual energies to resolve. I am therefore not pinch-hitting for Questioner – he can and already has responded for himself in a spirit which superbly exhibits the intent of the first guideline of the Bring4th forums. http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=63.

I simply wish to ask all on these forums to, if possible, always opt to respond lovingly to a perceived slight rather than in defense and accusation. (Anyone is welcome to remind me of the same at any time.)

Also, about the particular nature of this minor disharmony, everyone on these forums should be able to play during the course of our serious discussion. We should naturally do so with consideration and respect for everyone else, but we at the same time should not have to walk on eggshells.

As Questioner has already pointed out, hyperbole can very effectively communicate a point and therefore remains a completely legitimate vehicle for the expression of ones ideas.

More so, there is humor in hyperbole. Personally, I like to goof, for the fun of it, for generating smiles, and, if nothing else, to balance the serious, often grave nature of my thinking, especially in the face of so much that is horrid and painful in this world.

Consequently, levity is not only permissible here, but encouraged. Even the super serious progenitor of our communal philosophy, Ra, attempted to crack a joke here and there knowing full well that humanity exists in a darkness in which brutality, cruelty, depravity, corruption, and the wicked often dominate the human experience.

They, too, encouraged easing up:


34.6 http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=34&ss=1#6
Ra: The lessons to be learned vary. Almost always these lessons include patience, tolerance, and the ability for the light touch.

106.20 http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=106&ss=1#20
Ra: All is most whole-heartedly oriented for support here. Perceive the group as here, a location in time/space. Within this true home, keep the light touch. Laugh together, and find joy in and with each other. All else is most fully accomplished or planned for accomplishment.


In my humble opinion, levity, like all things, can be employed with more or less skill. We are all certainly capable of inadvertently offending each other through something we might say. So we wish to consider the effect of our statements on others. The Bring4th Admin team asks only that we all give the offending party the benefit of the doubt and assume that they did not intend to offend before we lash out. Following that assumption, we can, with love in our heart for the entity who provided the catalyst of hurt (no matter how inadvertently), explain how and why we feel hurt.

Should a member actually be intent on causing offense and pain, then the moderators will take up the situation. Until such time, we ask that everyone assume the best in the other.

Thanks so much for hearing me out! Love to you on the continuation of your journey. : )

GLB

[Quantum]

Dear Crimson,
....In your recent post to this thread, you had a reaction to Quantum that initiated a process between you and him which require your mutual energies to resolve. I am therefore not pinch-hitting for Questioner – he can and already has responded for himself in a spirit which superbly exhibits the intent of the first guideline of the Bring4th forums. http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=63.

If I may Gary, correct a simple typo of intent as regards Crimson and Questioner versus Crimson and myself (Quantum) which you caught in your second sentence.

Clearly we have learned that you need to drop the "Q" in your name "x"uestioner

On the other hand, the purpose could be as simple as to create a state of fear and hate (as usual) but magnified, as the time line approaches, so the majority of the population is fearful, hateful, sad, etc...That will contribute to the general consciousness of the planet.

yes, and they would rule over a pile of crap, a nuclear wasteland which turned to some medieval-victorian mad max world. isnt desirable for them.

Does one suppose that Maladek blew itself up without STS intervention involved? Addressing the point on a 3D to 3D level, even without higher forces at play as in 4 or 5D STS outside intervention, it would seem an entire planet blowing itself up is a bit less than loving? To the larger than 3D level, as regards higher STS influence, might one on the other hand assume that if a planet were potentially going more positive than negative that there may be a great deal of desirability in extinguishing it, by the same logic as there would be to extinguish a single individual such as in the 5D STS negative greeting during the sessions? STS logic is a twist on Spocks dying statement that "the need of the many outweighs the need of the one" where in the STS case "the need of the ONE outweighs the need of the MANY." Extinguishing many lives may render far more than extinguishing one? Barring STS higher intervention, and bringing it down to 3D again, there does exist simple stupidity and greed at the cost of all.

But apart from the logic, as regards STS higher influence, I would as solace, even though it was not your question, offer you Crimson that there is "The Quarantine Issue" established by the Confederation that plays a favorable factor. If on the other hand planet Earth ever did blow itself up as regarded STS in 3D, remember that it is us in STO as a whole that participates as well, not just them.



...L/L...
~ Q ~

[Steppingfeet]

If I may Gary, correct a simple typo of intent as regards Crimson and Questioner versus Crimson and myself (Quantum) which you caught in your second sentence.

_uantum, thanks for the catch! I'll edit momentarily.

I've got to mind my P's and Q's better. : )

[Questioner]

we all give the offending party the benefit of the doubt and assume that they did not intend to offend before we lash out. Following that assumption, we can, with love in our heart for the entity who provided the catalyst of hurt (no matter how inadvertently), explain how and why we feel hurt.

Thanks Gary for clarifying. I hadn't asked for a moderator review but I am glad you provided one. I hope that Crimson and I will be able to continue a dialogue of diverse perspectives, shared with goodwill.

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Clearly we have learned that you need to drop the "Q" in your name "x"uestioner

And you can then become Xuantum. Any backups of this site would then have to be called the X Files.

[Quantum]

If I may Gary, correct a simple typo of intent as regards Crimson and Questioner versus Crimson and myself (Quantum) which you caught in your second sentence.

_uantum, thanks for the catch! I'll edit momentarily.
I've got to mind my P's and Q's better. : )

Clearly we have learned that you need to drop the "Q" in your name "x"uestioner

And you can then become Xuantum. Any backups of this site would then have to be called the X Files.

Touche to both of you

P.S. - Three B4th credits to anyone who can share where the term "minding your P's & Q's" came from?....and then back to Cimson's thread!

...L/L...
~ Q ~