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    Thread: What makes a hero?


    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    09-09-2010, 01:19 PM
    In honor of fairyfarmgirls excellent suggestion. What makes a hero?

    To kick off I would suggest that a hero is someone who follows their inner truth no matter where it leads them.

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    Shemaya (Offline)

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    09-09-2010, 03:20 PM
    (09-09-2010, 01:19 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: In honor of fairyfarmgirls excellent suggestion. What makes a hero?

    To kick off I would suggest that a hero is someone who follows their inner truth no matter where it leads them.

    Awesome Ali!!

    I would like to add that a hero is someone just like fairyfarmgirlBigSmile

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    Richard (Offline)

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    09-09-2010, 03:31 PM
    (09-09-2010, 01:19 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: In honor of fairyfarmgirls excellent suggestion. What makes a hero?

    To kick off I would suggest that a hero is someone who follows their inner truth no matter where it leads them.

    I don't think a Hero defines themself as such...not a true one anyway. I think we (as a culture, race or individual.) define a certain set of parameters for what we'd call heroism...or a hero and attach it to someone. In so many cases, an acclaimed hero was simply a human being who found themselves in a situation that required a singular STO decision. Whether they were aware that concept or not.

    That said, I define a Hero as one who lives a life of service irregardless of the consequences. "Doctors Without Borders" is an organization whose efforts just blow me away. Talk about heroes.


    Richard

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    09-09-2010, 04:25 PM
    Well, geez, Sisters and Brothers, I have not thought of myself as a hero. I am just living my life in alignment with my highest good as I am able. I thank you for your comments though. (I am blushing).

    I guess Humility would be a quality of a hero... and incidently Humility is an aspect of Unity Consciousness or oneness and/or LOVE.

    I remember reading about an American Soldier in Afghanistan in Time Magazine awhile back. He was from NH and negotiated demining and reopening a school in the middle of taliban held territories successfully. It was a school for girls. That to me is truly what a soldier is to do... to assist in peacemaking without violence and to rebuild stuff. This is what I see a hero as... many heros are warrior as well. A warrior in the purest sense eschews violence and is a peacemaker and a master at intentional creation. Thus a hero-warrior knows thyself intimately.

    I also feel peace pilgrim was a hero.

    fairyfarmgirl

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    Eddie (Offline)

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    09-09-2010, 05:07 PM
    My mother worked hard (at a job paying a modest salary), tended to my chronically ill father, always kept the house as neat as a pin, and managed to host most of the holiday gatherings of our large extended family, for decades, and never once complained. If that doesn't define hero, I don't know what does.

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    09-09-2010, 06:47 PM
    i suspect heroism comes from the attitude and motivation behind an action, rather than the action itself - the why rather than the what. my definition of heroism is very much to do with living life with an open heart

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    09-10-2010, 10:00 AM (This post was last modified: 09-10-2010, 10:03 AM by norral.)
    Dear Ali

    what a great question. thanks for asking. first let me say i see it
    two ways. there are heroic acts and then there are heroic lives.

    a heroic act i would define as someone overcoming a fear of personal
    harm( be it physical or psuchological) and coming to the assistance or
    defense of other selves. examples would be david standing up to goliath,
    a person jumping on the tracks with a train coming to save someone
    who has fallen onto the tracks.

    a heroic life is like eddie said about his mom, or dr. martin luther king
    or gandhi. there are many many who lead heroic lives and at one time
    or the other i think we are all heroes

    norral
    let me add one other thing. I believe Carla is a hero

    norral

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    Brittany

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    09-10-2010, 04:10 PM
    In my opinion, anyone who is willing to be who they are, without caring about what society thinks of them or what challenges it brings, is a hero. Someone who refuses to be anyone but themselves, who knows what they believe in and follow that belief with all their might, whatever belief that might be, and also isn't afraid to examine themselves and admit when they are wrong, or when they need the help of others, or when there's something they just don't understand. A person who doesn't hide their faults, but strives to constantly maintain themselves in the highest way they can manage, living for the now. This is what a hero is to me. We are all heroes in disguise.

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    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    09-10-2010, 06:08 PM
    Smile I told you it was a good question fairyfarmgirl Tongue

    I was thinking on this some more, do you guys think heroism requires a kind of ethical judgment? Does a hero need to do the right thing? Or is someone who follows his own inner selfishness also qualify as a hero? Are there STS hero's?

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    Brittany

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    09-10-2010, 07:09 PM
    I believe that if an STS person truly believes in their path and are putting forth effort to uphold what they perceive to be right then yes, they are heroes as well. They have just as much opportunity to inspire people toward like action, which is generally what heroes do...they are looked to by the common people as paragons of whatever trait made them memorable. Of course, I'm sure STS individuals would have their own concepts of what makes a hero as well...perhaps whomever conquers the most enemies or weilds the most power. In the end, it's all perception.

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    09-11-2010, 09:39 AM
    (09-10-2010, 06:08 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Smile I told you it was a good question fairyfarmgirl Tongue

    I was thinking on this some more, do you guys think heroism requires a kind of ethical judgment? Does a hero need to do the right thing? Or is someone who follows his own inner selfishness also qualify as a hero? Are there STS hero's?

    TongueBigSmile Ali! I used this question as a platform for teaching a small group of people about STO action without ever speaking of the term. The concept of the Law of One was demonstrated. It also led to a discussion about the pitfalls and merits of the cape and mask! Wink Then, the discussion morphed into a discussion about roles, and masks we where, masks we make and the shamanic use of such things. BigSmile

    The movie, The Incredibles was quoted!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THYkMUD_JOE

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    09-12-2010, 08:51 AM (This post was last modified: 09-12-2010, 09:05 AM by thefool.)
    (09-10-2010, 04:10 PM)ahktu Wrote: In my opinion, anyone who is willing to be who they are, without caring about what society thinks of them or what challenges it brings, is a hero. Someone who refuses to be anyone but themselves, who knows what they believe in and follow that belief with all their might, whatever belief that might be, and also isn't afraid to examine themselves and admit when they are wrong, or when they need the help of others, or when there's something they just don't understand. A person who doesn't hide their faults, but strives to constantly maintain themselves in the highest way they can manage, living for the now. This is what a hero is to me. We are all heroes in disguise.

    I was thinking the same thing. Hero is a label that we assign to the actions of individuals. But we all have the potential to be hero just by being ourselves.
    (09-10-2010, 06:08 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Smile I told you it was a good question fairyfarmgirl Tongue

    I was thinking on this some more, do you guys think heroism requires a kind of ethical judgment? Does a hero need to do the right thing? Or is someone who follows his own inner selfishness also qualify as a hero? Are there STS hero's?

    In my opinion, Heroism just requires to be your true self. It could be as simple as supporting a family through tough circumstances without complains.

    Like many other good concepts this also has been layered with STS propaganda, manipulation and mind control. There is a certain type of hero that goes in to change the world, not because it needs changing but because anytime you can change the world is considered good. It is a sort of imposing your will or ideas on others in a social setting. Whether the change is for better or worse. So many heros end up killing millions. Because others are considered stupid or ignorant worthy to be slaughtered in the name of some good cause or end goal. Someone's hero becomes another's villain. This is how STS manipulation works. They hide behind something good and worth doing and corrupt it to do just the opposite. Always watch out for the red flag of 'end justifies the means'. When you see that you know that some STS layering is at work...

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    Brittany

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    09-13-2010, 09:15 AM
    I had an addition to my earlier thoughts...that one trait of a true hero would be to do something for the greater good of man without expecting to be recognized for it at all. If you expect everyone to look up at you afterward and shower you with praise and attention, I think the true meaning of heroism is being lost. It reminds me of the ancient Greek heroes, whom it seemed like would put on a show every Tuesday, slaughtering some monster or moving some big rock or what have you, pretty much becoming the equivalent of modern day movie stars. If you stand around waiting to have your picture taken afterward, was your heart really in the right place to begin with?

    Another thing that comes to mind is an article I read about a young man who is getting a medal of honor for running into enemy fire in Afghanistan in order to save his comrades. He survived, but when he found out they wanted to give him a special honor he felt uncomfortable, because he said anyone else in his group would have done the same thing. He didn't feel like a twist of circumstance made him deserve a medal. I think it is this humility and selflessness that gives him the definition of a true hero. When you see something that needs doing, you just do it, because it is right.

    Just a thought.

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    Deekun (Offline)

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    09-18-2010, 09:19 AM (This post was last modified: 09-18-2010, 09:22 AM by Deekun.)
    (09-13-2010, 09:15 AM)ahktu Wrote: I had an addition to my earlier thoughts...that one trait of a true hero would be to do something for the greater good of man without expecting to be recognized for it at all. If you expect everyone to look up at you afterward and shower you with praise and attention, I think the true meaning of heroism is being lost.

    I second this wholeheartedly, most of the times the hero is even abandoned and hurt emotionally in the end of his/her quest, which is the Hero's burden. Only the hero can bear this as it is what makes him/her stronger and weights his/hers intentions as a last test to whatever large heroism task he/she endured. Even padding yourself on the back takes away from the act. I think one of the reasons the hero must move on in most stories is exactly to keep the level of humility in check.

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