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Ra "talked" of a possible harvest in 2011 and at approximately the same time Scott Mandelker and David Wilcock
also belived that. Obviously nothing happened at that time on the physical world. How do you envision earth's future now ?
I'm sure that while the planet is still in a state of crisis that the future will be quite remarkable because of the positive shifts in consciousness happening.

I think over the next 50 or so years, the whole world will pretty much know there is life beyond this material world. The veil is going to gradually get very very thin, and as our consciousness raises due to this understanding, and we become our natural spiritual selves, so will our physical bodies gradually change, generation by generation becoming more and more 4th density. Our race will straddle both densities in dual bodies until finally they genetically lean predominately towards 4th density. And when that process is done the harvest will be over.

[Plenum]

my feeling is that the 'Harvesting Process' started in earnest at that time.  Much like any harvest (of crops, fields) it takes time, and isn't instantaneous.  So there were many souls that died in the last - say 30-50 years - and have been waiting for the Harvest to begin.  They didn't need to to incarnate again, and so were part of the process.  My feeling is that any deaths since 2011-2012, those individuals have the process of Harvest applied to them -

The third group watching over this process is that group you call the Guardians. This group is from the octave above our own and serves in this manner as light-bringers. These Guardians provide the precise emissions of light/love in exquisitely fastidious disseminations of discrimination so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained.

That last part - "so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained" - determines where you end up.  It's not about succeeding/failing Harvest, it's more about the proper place to continue one's learning path.  If one can sustain the positive vibrations of a 4d Positive Planet, one will return here, if one has the fortitude and strength to survive in a 4d Negative planet, one will be directed there.  Wanderers get to go home, if their biases haven't been impacted too greatly by unloving actions/thoughts.  People who need further 3d experience will find an appropriate planet.  So it's not about a moral judgement on someone; it's just assessing where the right situation for someone is.  And this can only happen when the incarnation has ceased accumulating experience; ie, the person is dead.  And it happens on an individual basis.

I'm sure that while the planet is still in a state of crisis that the future will be quite remarkable because of the positive shifts in consciousness happening.

My feeling is that this planet will be increasingly populated with Dual Activated 4d Positive Graduates.  They will be the face of change. As all the old guard die off, these are the heart activated Noobies that will take up positions in government, business, and the judiciary.  They will make positive decisions, because, well, they are positively-oriented individuals.  Their choices will impact the world in a positively-leaning direction.  And so the momemtum towards a coherent, unified, positively-oriented society will happen both one death at a time, and one birth at a time.  Day-by-day, hour-by-hour, the scales on Planet Earth are being shifted towards 4d positivity.  It's absolutely inevitable, and absolutely unstoppable.  Earth is a guaranteed 4d positive planet, and we are lucky enough to be witnesses as this microscopic, but also telescopic, shift is underway.

[APeacefulWarrior]

Not to mention that Ra said the Harvest could take anywhere from 100-700 years. (40.8) I think a lot of people get the idea that it's going to be some kind of Christian-style Rapturing, but no, it's a slow process from our POV. It's not something where people would see the changes overnight or, potentially, even within a single lifetime.

[1109]

I'm no expert in the Q'uo transcripts but didn't they state somewhere that the harvest began in 1987 or something like that?

I'm curious as to when only 4d graduated entities will be able to enter the incarnational cycle on this planet. From that point and adding a century almost everyone on the planet will be 4d positive. The old patterns and structures of 3D will continue on for a while, hence the 100-700 year transition. Remember that 3D consists of entities, artifacts and thought forms. They must all go.

Has anyone here read Robert Monroes book Ultimate Journey? In it he describes an astral projection visit to the future a thousand years from now. Humanity has cleaned up the earth and removed all traces of human settlement. They can leave their physical bodies at will and use their astral bodies to manifest food by thought and possess animals. And most importantly they are preparing to soon leave earth or at least this earth plane. If this isn't fiction then I think what he is describing is the true end of 3D on Earth and the transition to pure 4d experience.

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[AnthroHeart]

I was born in 1977 so I missed all the enhancements. Not even sure if I'm an Indigo.

I'm certainly not dual activated, although I did a spoon bending one time.

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[Stranger]

Since the quarantine has been lifted, I see increasing polarization and increasing opportunities for polarization. Challenges that force us to very clearly and explicitly choose to be on the side of love and oneness, or fear and control of others. I think this is why people like Trump are suddenly able to obtain a huge following, and people like Putin are displaying preternatural STS skills. As Quo recently said, this is a device for separating "the wheat from the chaff".

Here's a relevant Q'uote from 2/6/16:

Realize my friends that the free will of your planet is most difficult to predict for there are forces moving from ancient of days that would work against such harvest, those entities of a darker variety which seek in their own manner to be harvested by controlling the light of this harvest. And yet they shall fail, for the legions of the service-to-self entities will have only a short day where they shall reign supreme and then their day shall be over, and the light shall shine, and the harvest shall be complete. And those who seek service to others shall find a new fourth density home upon this planet, for this planet shall be a fourth-density positive planet

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[Stranger]

Every (legitimate) spiritual path begins with the founder teaching and practicing unconditional universal love. This being a difficult path, it does not take long before various "shortcuts" are offered as substitutes. Loving your neighbor is too hard? No worries, just say the magic words "I believe in Jesus" and make a donation on Sundays, you'll be aight. The Noble Eightfold Path too steep of a climb for ya? Here, sing this magic chant and the Buddha of the Pure Land will pick you up and place you right in heaven. etc...

The point being: heaven (or 4D+, if you prefer) is only heaven because it is populated by people who care about others' well-being, at the very least, just a bit more than about their own. Hell is only hell (4D-) for the same exact reason. The light and love of the Creator is within each of us. We need to let it shine out. This requires work. In this work, we are helped to various degrees, and this is called grace in Christianity -- but if we're not willing to pick up and carry the cross, no one is going to come down and do it all for us. That would simply defeat the entire point of the Creation, which took a lot of work to put together!

[Nicholas]

I am quite fond of the "Free Will" aspect to 4th D harvest. That infers to me that we are all playing an active role in the timeline, whether we are aware of it or not. So promoting peace by our very beingness and displaying an authentic, fearless response to the wider geopolitical climate is an appropriate type of service in my eyes. 

This involves disclosure to me and a coming out, of sorts. I will be using my facebook account as a platform in declaring to my 120 friends precisely what is "on my mind".

Here is an example...

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[BlatzAdict]

http://www.ewao.com/a/eerie-photo-accide...-floating/

Wouldn't this count as the veil thinning?

[Nau7ik]

Scott Mandelker was a teacher I discovered a few weeks ago, and he really resonates with me.

Jesus Christ said only the Father (Logos) will know the hour. I expect to live my life, die, then walk the steps of light. I think the shift will be gradual. Although, Scott's assessment of a gradual instantaneous shift sounds possible.

As for Earth's bright future, Howard Storm saw a vision of future humanity/Earth during his NDE. It was a beautiful Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, with humanity returning back to nature/God with very little technology and focused on the upbringing of children as the early fourth density lessons of love.

I think somehow that the systems of third density will fall. It will all be transformed (in fourth density) into something almost beyond recognition of the third density institutions.

Anyway, who really knows I've heard many theories and all of them have validity. I guess we will wait and see, and I'm sure it will be greater than any of us can imagine.

[Nau7ik]

Jim Self and Saint Germain (channeled by Geoffrey Hoppe) talk about the near future,
it looks very Sci-Fi, high consciousness and nanotechnologies combined.
Being able to manifest objects, having a manufactured nano-body that can regrow organs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd_4zqU_r14

Do you have an opinion on these two teachers ? I've listened to Jim in the past but now i'm not sure about the validity
of what he says.

Fourth density will certainly be able to manifest things. The idea of nano technology in our body sounds very Orion-influenced to me. Fourth density will have physical light bodies. Transhumanism technology is not necessary. Disease will not be possible as we understand it today in fourth density positive. The experience will be in harmony with ourselves and our brothers and sisters. (I got all of this from the Law of One and my own research, so it's only my opinions, which could be wrong.)

Only you can judge what is right and what is not for you, though.

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[Billy]

If you can find it, 2150 AD by Thea Alexander seems to be a good representation of the kind of society that will exist in late 3rd/early 4th density Earth.