06-14-2013, 01:50 PM
I thought this was an interesting group question:
Sunday Meditation
December 20, 1998
Group question: What is the entity, Jesus, doing now, and how can we benefit in our devotional lives from his teachings?
(Carla channeling)
We are those of the principle known to you as Q’uo, and we greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator whose servants we are. As the shadows lengthen on your winter’s afternoon we extend our gratitude and our blessing to you who sit quietly in a circle of working humbly asking for truth, for hope, for resources and tools with which to carry on the seeking of the mystery of love and of deity. We thank you and we bless you, and we give thanks for you. For it is that stubborn and persistent seeker that lights the way for those who follow, that plants the seeds that others shall gather. It does not seem to each who sits in this circle that there is anything out of the ordinary in each life, and yet each has been as a beacon to others in ways that each cannot possibly know. We, too, hope that we may learn and grow as persistently as this group, and we hope that we may share from our experience the opinions and concepts that have been helpful to us. As always, however, we ask that each who hears these words respond only to those ideas that delight and find a home within. Any thoughts that we may offer that may seem disharmonious to you, we would ask that you leave behind, for we do not wish to create problems for you. We only wish to share our thoughts and to share the energy of meditation that blesses us as we hope our presence blesses you.
You have asked this day concerning the entity known to you as Jesus of Nazareth, what he is doing now and what this entity may continue to symbolize and suggest to those who seek the truth. At this level of contact, that is, the light trance of what this instrument calls conscious channeling, we do not wish to attempt to indicate, using this instrument, precisely what planetary sphere or what precise work this particular entity is now doing. We would, however, express our feeling that this entity was one of a social memory complex that was at a stage of graduation to fifth density. This entity and the social memory complex of which it was a part had in common a full consciousness of love and compassion. A love that creates. A love that destroys. A love that transforms. A love that is all that there is. This love was not informed or balanced with wisdom. This state of love of this social memory complex thusly was, if not absolutely perfect, at a very high level of near perfection. And as such, this group was exquisitely poised at the appropriate nexus when the opportunity came for incarnation using Christ consciousness within the Earth plane in third density.
This social memory complex is now, and has been for some of your time, studying the ways of wisdom and progressing in fifth density. However, the state of consciousness of Jesus the Christ and that social memory complex is alive and well within your inner planes where many teachers who have experienced this state of consciousness await the work of what this instrument would call the Holy Spirit. Thusly, the Earth plane has never been without Christ, nor shall it ever be without Christ. For as the Christ came into incarnation it was perhaps, in some part, a personality, but so filled with the Holy Spirit, the identity of self with what the one known as Jesus called the Father, that there was not sufficient personality clinging to this Christed being [for him] to retain a personality shell after the departure of this entity from the inner planes of your Earth.
Thusly, without taking anything away from the accomplishment of the individual who carried Christ’s consciousness within the Earth plane we may say that that energy that you know of as Jesus is not owned by an individual, nor was it owned by an individual while that individual was in incarnation. Rather, the one known as Jesus always and persistently stated, “When you hear me, you do not hear me but my Father.” This entity found itself completely lost to its Earthly personality experiencing the glory of oneness with the Creator, with the creation of nature with the world around it and with each and every seemingly imperfect human being that seemingly presented itself to this entity. This Christed quality of love is so much a redeemer and a savior of third-density awareness and of fourth-density work that we find it extremely easy to state that Jesus is Lord, as this instrument requires us to do before we may speak. We are not at that time celebrating the individual but stating the Lordship that this individual carried as its identity, eschewing and forgoing the normal ramifications of the ego-driven personality.
Perhaps you may see, then, that each of you has the potential to begin to learn how to carry the consciousness of Christ within the self. For you see, as you consider yourself it is crucial what angle you view the self from. In the eyes of your culture, you are taught to view the self within the nexus of the social arrangement that enables society to live peaceably together. The self then is seen as personality, with characteristics of the personality, with a certain kind of mental ability, with certain culturally conditioned and educated biases, with certain physical work that is done, with certain hobbies and interests and the whole gamut of human identity.
However, each who has awakened spiritually knows well that that is only the surface of self and all of society and its biases, that all of the social arrangements, economic plans and schemes for attaining and maintaining comfort and health and happiness do not identify the self or exhaust its beingness. As spiritual seekers move more and more into consideration of the self as a spiritual being there grows an awareness that the self within is not even a person, that the personality is truly a shell but that what it holds is infinite. There is no bottom to the roots of consciousness. The roots move into infinity. There is no limitation upon the self, the “I” that lives within, and that is one key that the one known as Jesus of Nazareth offers: the redefinition of self, that movement from the “I” of the personality to the “I” of “When you hear me speak, you hear not me but the Father who sent me.” For each of us was sent into this illusion. Each of us, indeed, has sent itself into the illusion to serve as the lighthouse for the source of light moving into the Earth plane. It is not that the “I” of self has the fuel to burn an infinite light eternally. Rather, the spiritually awakened self becomes more and more aware that the “I” that is truly the self is simply moving through the vehicle of personality in infinite energy. What the “I” of personality may do to express the true “I-ness” of the Creator within is to allow and bless the energy that moves through the being. For each of you is as a receiver and a sender of energy. Each of you receives infinite light and love in a steady and continual basis, both from the Earth energy itself moving up through the vehicle and from those sources of inspiration which each calls to herself from time to time that move down into the self from above.
All of this energy can be held, or it can be allowed to flow. And each serves by allowing that energy to flow through with as little distortion as possible. And not simply allowing but blessing it on its way. Each has outer gifts, and these gifts are there for each to share. However, the one known as Jesus is that perfect example of one who laid all gifts before the Creator and simply said, “What is your will for me?”
At this time where the world experiences the shortest of days and the longest of nights, at your Christmastide, your light festival, know that the baby that lies within the manger in the story in your Bible is alive and lying in the manger in your heart. Know that that consciousness of Christ that the one known as Jesus carried is carried by others as well. That there are always Christs within your inner planes, those who dwell in that state of consciousness that is so fruitful and helpful for those within the Earth planes, but know most of all that the savior and redeemer of the world lies within the single unified heart. For each of you has in perfect accomplishment the awareness and the ability to be Christed. And as destiny rules, each of you shall be given your times to express perfect love.
This instrument asks us, mentally, and we repeat it that we may answer for each of you, “How can you say that Jesus is Lord if you say that Jesus can be replaced with another of the same consciousness?” and we say to you that it is our experience that selfhood is far less personal than it seems within third density. It is a matter of breadth of experience, of seeing into the illusion which within your incarnational experiences is such a perfect and complete illusion. Jesus, indeed, is Lord. Christ, indeed, is the highest and most pure and perfect love, that love that destroys only to transform, that kills only to raise and move onward. Whereever we see the Christ within incarnation that consciousness held by that entity is Lord. One recognizes it as one would recognize an oak tree or a brand of food in your marketplace. It is distinctive. It is perfect of its own kind. And it is a deeply impersonal, infinitely true consciousness in metaphysical location of quality and essence that transcends personality and reidentifies the individual as love.
This state of consciousness lies within your awareness even in incarnation, in potentiation, and the thirst for that state of consciousness draws you onward. May we say to you, value and treasure that thirst and follow it faithfully, for it is a true thirst, a thirst that will still be there a hundred millennia from now, only more intense, more single-minded, because you will have found out more, experienced more, been more within the changing and shifting illusions of space/time.
We do not want to turn our backs upon history. We are aware that it is important to this instrument and to others whether the one known as Jesus the Christ was an historical figure. Indeed, this entity did exist and did express as Christ. There have been others who have expressed this consciousness within your Earth plane but certainly less distorted in expression of this gift than the one known as Jesus. We see and believe in the Christ in each of you and in ourselves. Indeed, we have been at that state of consciousness and have shared in expressing Christhood in our service as you shall do in your turn. Beyond all considerations of time and place and history, however, there lies a level of truth that goes quite beyond the personal and moves into essences and qualities of consciousness that open doors within the deep mind and create the possibility for further spiritual evolution.
We wish you light and love on that journey that each of you takes as each pursues the questions of identity and ambition. Who am I? Why am I here? What is my service? Whither do I go? These are the questions that stir life and aid in acceleration of evolution. Move ever deeper into questions of who you really are, what service you truly came to offer. Know that these potentials for transformation and evolution are real, and know that we do not find any consideration more interesting than the pursuit of self into the deeper mind and beyond the local personality shell with which you have equipped yourselves in order to experience this illusion. Know that you are redeemed, loved, cherished and treasured by the Christ that was Jesus, by Christ consciousness wherever it is, and by us. Know that you are part of a great Self, and that as you pursue your selfhood you also pursue the selfhood of the creation and the Creator.
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Sunday Meditation
December 20, 1998
Group question: What is the entity, Jesus, doing now, and how can we benefit in our devotional lives from his teachings?
(Carla channeling)
We are those of the principle known to you as Q’uo, and we greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator whose servants we are. As the shadows lengthen on your winter’s afternoon we extend our gratitude and our blessing to you who sit quietly in a circle of working humbly asking for truth, for hope, for resources and tools with which to carry on the seeking of the mystery of love and of deity. We thank you and we bless you, and we give thanks for you. For it is that stubborn and persistent seeker that lights the way for those who follow, that plants the seeds that others shall gather. It does not seem to each who sits in this circle that there is anything out of the ordinary in each life, and yet each has been as a beacon to others in ways that each cannot possibly know. We, too, hope that we may learn and grow as persistently as this group, and we hope that we may share from our experience the opinions and concepts that have been helpful to us. As always, however, we ask that each who hears these words respond only to those ideas that delight and find a home within. Any thoughts that we may offer that may seem disharmonious to you, we would ask that you leave behind, for we do not wish to create problems for you. We only wish to share our thoughts and to share the energy of meditation that blesses us as we hope our presence blesses you.
You have asked this day concerning the entity known to you as Jesus of Nazareth, what he is doing now and what this entity may continue to symbolize and suggest to those who seek the truth. At this level of contact, that is, the light trance of what this instrument calls conscious channeling, we do not wish to attempt to indicate, using this instrument, precisely what planetary sphere or what precise work this particular entity is now doing. We would, however, express our feeling that this entity was one of a social memory complex that was at a stage of graduation to fifth density. This entity and the social memory complex of which it was a part had in common a full consciousness of love and compassion. A love that creates. A love that destroys. A love that transforms. A love that is all that there is. This love was not informed or balanced with wisdom. This state of love of this social memory complex thusly was, if not absolutely perfect, at a very high level of near perfection. And as such, this group was exquisitely poised at the appropriate nexus when the opportunity came for incarnation using Christ consciousness within the Earth plane in third density.
This social memory complex is now, and has been for some of your time, studying the ways of wisdom and progressing in fifth density. However, the state of consciousness of Jesus the Christ and that social memory complex is alive and well within your inner planes where many teachers who have experienced this state of consciousness await the work of what this instrument would call the Holy Spirit. Thusly, the Earth plane has never been without Christ, nor shall it ever be without Christ. For as the Christ came into incarnation it was perhaps, in some part, a personality, but so filled with the Holy Spirit, the identity of self with what the one known as Jesus called the Father, that there was not sufficient personality clinging to this Christed being [for him] to retain a personality shell after the departure of this entity from the inner planes of your Earth.
Thusly, without taking anything away from the accomplishment of the individual who carried Christ’s consciousness within the Earth plane we may say that that energy that you know of as Jesus is not owned by an individual, nor was it owned by an individual while that individual was in incarnation. Rather, the one known as Jesus always and persistently stated, “When you hear me, you do not hear me but my Father.” This entity found itself completely lost to its Earthly personality experiencing the glory of oneness with the Creator, with the creation of nature with the world around it and with each and every seemingly imperfect human being that seemingly presented itself to this entity. This Christed quality of love is so much a redeemer and a savior of third-density awareness and of fourth-density work that we find it extremely easy to state that Jesus is Lord, as this instrument requires us to do before we may speak. We are not at that time celebrating the individual but stating the Lordship that this individual carried as its identity, eschewing and forgoing the normal ramifications of the ego-driven personality.
Perhaps you may see, then, that each of you has the potential to begin to learn how to carry the consciousness of Christ within the self. For you see, as you consider yourself it is crucial what angle you view the self from. In the eyes of your culture, you are taught to view the self within the nexus of the social arrangement that enables society to live peaceably together. The self then is seen as personality, with characteristics of the personality, with a certain kind of mental ability, with certain culturally conditioned and educated biases, with certain physical work that is done, with certain hobbies and interests and the whole gamut of human identity.
However, each who has awakened spiritually knows well that that is only the surface of self and all of society and its biases, that all of the social arrangements, economic plans and schemes for attaining and maintaining comfort and health and happiness do not identify the self or exhaust its beingness. As spiritual seekers move more and more into consideration of the self as a spiritual being there grows an awareness that the self within is not even a person, that the personality is truly a shell but that what it holds is infinite. There is no bottom to the roots of consciousness. The roots move into infinity. There is no limitation upon the self, the “I” that lives within, and that is one key that the one known as Jesus of Nazareth offers: the redefinition of self, that movement from the “I” of the personality to the “I” of “When you hear me speak, you hear not me but the Father who sent me.” For each of us was sent into this illusion. Each of us, indeed, has sent itself into the illusion to serve as the lighthouse for the source of light moving into the Earth plane. It is not that the “I” of self has the fuel to burn an infinite light eternally. Rather, the spiritually awakened self becomes more and more aware that the “I” that is truly the self is simply moving through the vehicle of personality in infinite energy. What the “I” of personality may do to express the true “I-ness” of the Creator within is to allow and bless the energy that moves through the being. For each of you is as a receiver and a sender of energy. Each of you receives infinite light and love in a steady and continual basis, both from the Earth energy itself moving up through the vehicle and from those sources of inspiration which each calls to herself from time to time that move down into the self from above.
All of this energy can be held, or it can be allowed to flow. And each serves by allowing that energy to flow through with as little distortion as possible. And not simply allowing but blessing it on its way. Each has outer gifts, and these gifts are there for each to share. However, the one known as Jesus is that perfect example of one who laid all gifts before the Creator and simply said, “What is your will for me?”
At this time where the world experiences the shortest of days and the longest of nights, at your Christmastide, your light festival, know that the baby that lies within the manger in the story in your Bible is alive and lying in the manger in your heart. Know that that consciousness of Christ that the one known as Jesus carried is carried by others as well. That there are always Christs within your inner planes, those who dwell in that state of consciousness that is so fruitful and helpful for those within the Earth planes, but know most of all that the savior and redeemer of the world lies within the single unified heart. For each of you has in perfect accomplishment the awareness and the ability to be Christed. And as destiny rules, each of you shall be given your times to express perfect love.
This instrument asks us, mentally, and we repeat it that we may answer for each of you, “How can you say that Jesus is Lord if you say that Jesus can be replaced with another of the same consciousness?” and we say to you that it is our experience that selfhood is far less personal than it seems within third density. It is a matter of breadth of experience, of seeing into the illusion which within your incarnational experiences is such a perfect and complete illusion. Jesus, indeed, is Lord. Christ, indeed, is the highest and most pure and perfect love, that love that destroys only to transform, that kills only to raise and move onward. Whereever we see the Christ within incarnation that consciousness held by that entity is Lord. One recognizes it as one would recognize an oak tree or a brand of food in your marketplace. It is distinctive. It is perfect of its own kind. And it is a deeply impersonal, infinitely true consciousness in metaphysical location of quality and essence that transcends personality and reidentifies the individual as love.
This state of consciousness lies within your awareness even in incarnation, in potentiation, and the thirst for that state of consciousness draws you onward. May we say to you, value and treasure that thirst and follow it faithfully, for it is a true thirst, a thirst that will still be there a hundred millennia from now, only more intense, more single-minded, because you will have found out more, experienced more, been more within the changing and shifting illusions of space/time.
We do not want to turn our backs upon history. We are aware that it is important to this instrument and to others whether the one known as Jesus the Christ was an historical figure. Indeed, this entity did exist and did express as Christ. There have been others who have expressed this consciousness within your Earth plane but certainly less distorted in expression of this gift than the one known as Jesus. We see and believe in the Christ in each of you and in ourselves. Indeed, we have been at that state of consciousness and have shared in expressing Christhood in our service as you shall do in your turn. Beyond all considerations of time and place and history, however, there lies a level of truth that goes quite beyond the personal and moves into essences and qualities of consciousness that open doors within the deep mind and create the possibility for further spiritual evolution.
We wish you light and love on that journey that each of you takes as each pursues the questions of identity and ambition. Who am I? Why am I here? What is my service? Whither do I go? These are the questions that stir life and aid in acceleration of evolution. Move ever deeper into questions of who you really are, what service you truly came to offer. Know that these potentials for transformation and evolution are real, and know that we do not find any consideration more interesting than the pursuit of self into the deeper mind and beyond the local personality shell with which you have equipped yourselves in order to experience this illusion. Know that you are redeemed, loved, cherished and treasured by the Christ that was Jesus, by Christ consciousness wherever it is, and by us. Know that you are part of a great Self, and that as you pursue your selfhood you also pursue the selfhood of the creation and the Creator.
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