05-13-2012, 09:52 PM
Something I had copied from a forum ages ago, and just now came across again.
Quote:these are some revealing quotes to a.m. questions from david r. hawkins (oct 16, 2004, speech in sedona):
I have found them right in this forum.
Most people think they're thinking, but that's just what they think. You don t really think until level 400. Below 200, people mentate. They don t think; they think they think, but they just mentate.
kinesiology is a tool - no linear, local, individual question of faith:
We do not lecture on kinesiology, and I don't even believe in it. You can't believe in kinesiology because it calibrates at 600, which is beyond linearity. You just use it like a screwdriver or a hammer, just as a tool. I have a certain reverence for it. It had been taught by Dr. John Diamond and others as a local phenomenon, which we discovered that it's not.
raising of the level of consciousness --> disturbances / catalysis / turbulences....
The advance of truth doesn't necessarily bring tranquil waters. In fact, it can disturb things for a while. You now have a new paradigm, and inherent in it is the downfall of the old.
this reminds me of a quote from Jesus, Gospel of Thomas:
He who seeks the truth, shall not find it.
He who finds it, shall be disturbed.
He who is disturbed, shall marvel.
He who marvels, shall discover the truth in his own heart and at last become truly human.
re cause vs. effect paradigm
The notion of causality itself doesn't even follow logic. Because something follows something else doesn't mean that it's necessarily caused by that something. That s the common error of the intellect, and of science as well. That which is provable is not spiritual truth. You can prove only that which is limited to the Newtonian paradigm of the linear.
on absolute truth. on relationism as a trick of ego/mind.
The infinite field of consciousness, that which we consult through kinesiology, is the field of the Absolute. The ego hates to hear anything that suggests it's not God. The ego is clever; it gets rid of God by getting rid of the sovereignty of the Absolute.
is kinesiology the key to absolute truth?
Unless you have a way to discern truth, kinesiology is the first way. The same thing can be true in one context and untrue in another context. A thing is only true under certain conditions. The Infinite field of consciousness is what we consult. It is the Absolute. A thing can be calibrated by saying, As compared with the Absolute, this calibrates at this level. ... You can't use kinesiology to prove a positionality; it will prove you wrong. You can't have anything riding on the outcome.
on the futility re trying to sell (proselytise) truth :
You can't "sell something to people who aren't interested in it. Integrous people respect truth for its own sake. Non-integrous people respect truth only for how they get something out of it.
how to change the LoC?
Fluctuating moods and emotions don't change your level of consciousness. What changes it is spiritual will.
cal. 850 (that's what i've learned lately from a post here.)