what does Ra mean by resonance

[Lulu]

8.14 Questioner: What’s the objective with respect to the conquest of the Orion group?
Ra: I am Ra. As we have said previously, their objective is to locate certain mind/body/spirit complexes which vibrate in resonance with their own vibrational complex, then to enslave the un-elite, as you may call those who are not of the Orion vibration.

Category: Orion

If resonance means that we are "the same" then they wish to enslave those who are service to self, as that is what they are. Correct or?

If he means resonance as in what is opposite attracts then he means those in service to others who are then susceptible to being enslaved.

The reason I ask is because I know and have experienced and felt the Orion energies in others. On all occasions there is an electro-magnetic attraction in a sense, I was "located".

Now --the way to release the energy HAS been to state my autonomy and that I am in service to myself.

That indicates quite clearly to me, that PRIOR to this, I was susceptible to being enslaved because I was in service to others (him/them).

So.... can anyone place a better argument to that?? Or are you all preparing or being tricked into enslavement as you move into STO in hope of being worthy and guided into what you deem is a better place or 4D...?

Or am I missing something about the word resonance and what has made sense to match?

Lulu

Also this leads to the archetypes question. Are in danger of being enslaved (or enslaving others) until we accept all of our archetypes?

[KindaEnlightened]

My thoughts are that the Orion group are looking for other STO types. If they are not of the Orion, they will fit them into a spot below them in the ladder of power, enslaving them.

As far as your experience with orion energies, and being attracted, I don't discount a word of that, but that doesn't match my experience. I can't say with certainty that I have experienced Orion power, but I have dealt with some extremely negative sources, and I have always felt repelled.

As far as being tricked, I didn't pick up on any type of information about such trappings when I read the Ra materiel. It was my understanding that one either goes 4d-STS if 95% or greater polarized towards STS, 4d-STO if 50% or grater polarized STO, or stay in a 3d world if you are the indifferent/lukewarm remainder.

As far as the archetypes, I don't think it is so much a matter of accepting them, but more of a matter of finding your relationship with them. I think as long as you respect the free will of others, you won't be in danger of enslaving them. If you respect your own free will, and you can see all as the creator, I don't even know if it is possible to be enslaved.

Thank you for the thought provoking questions! All is well. Nothing is lost. There are no mistakes.

[Siren]

If resonance means that we are "the same" then they wish to enslave those who are service to self, as that is what they are. Correct or?

Yes, resonance as in "like attracts like."

But I think you misapprehended Ra's statement. Let me attempt to clarify: what Ra is saying, is that this so-called "Orion group" seeks to bolster their ranks by adding other like-minded, negatively-seeking, service-to-self entities unto their total complex, all the while enslaving the rest—particularly the "lukewarm" (i.e. the non-polarized)—who would be considered "un-elite."

In modern parlance: a few are to be cunning wolves, whilst the majority remain ignorant sheep.

If he means resonance as in what is opposite attracts then he means those in service to others who are then susceptible to being enslaved.

A sufficiently positively-polarized entity cannot be truly "enslaved." Only non-polarized entities and negatively-polarized entities can be subject to enslavement.

What needs to be understood is that the formations of negative-service groups is hierarchical in nature. Therefore, 3D entities learning the way of service-to-self will attract about themselves the influences of "higher-dimensional" negative entities who will teach/offer them the ways of negative service. By its mere position in the evolutionary ladder then, the 3D negative neophyte is then, in a way, "enslaved" (perhaps even unknowingly) by the higher negative adept. Likewise, early negative 4D graduates are subject to mid and late 4D negatives masters, who are in turn subject to 5D, and so on.

However, lower negative entities can "overthrow" higher negative overlord, and thus inverse the slave/master relationship—whether momentarily or more permanently. Negative hierarchies are somewhat volatile, for there is always a struggle for dominance over others-selves even among themselves (even lower 3D/4D negative minions dream of reaching the highest thrones of power—after all, haven't the greatest of all demonic princes evolve out of primordial clay in 1D?).

In a paradoxical way, those who seek to enslave have also enslaved themselves.

Just as those who truly respect, honor and uphold the freewill of other-selves, experience the greatest of freedoms.

Or are you all preparing or being tricked into enslavement as you move into STO in hope of being worthy and guided into what you deem is a better place or 4D...?

I perceive some degree of doubt/fear/confusion in your question.

Let us attempt to explicate the mechanisms of positive/negative service in 4D when two entities, or group of entities, of opposite polarity meet/greet each other. This is what generally occurs:
The positive entity fails to accept the service/offering of the negative entity, which is enslavement. The negative entity fails to accept the service/offering of the positive entity, which is non-enslavement. Thus, both forces repel each other, lose some polarity, and thus must retreat and re-group; leaving each other and continuing on their own path of service/seeking.

[Patrick]

8.14 Questioner: What’s the objective with respect to the conquest of the Orion group?
Ra: I am Ra. As we have said previously, their objective is to locate certain mind/body/spirit complexes which vibrate in resonance with their own vibrational complex, then to enslave the un-elite, as you may call those who are not of the Orion vibration.

Category: Orion

If resonance means that we are "the same" then they wish to enslave those who are service to self, as that is what they are...

What is meant is people who would agree with STS ideas. Those who think themselves superior to others are those who resonate with Orion. They are the ones Orion would contact to give them ideas and techniques of how to force their choices on those inferior to them, since the Elites knows best what is good for us. Or so they believe. Thus enslaving us.

[Lulu]

Thanks for that Siren, I can see where I could have been considered non-polarized when I was confronted. Though I felt as if I was more then 51% in service to others when it happened. I Felt as if I was in love with everyone and the world! However, I am sure I was only operating at a fraction of myself. If I think about what I would have posted on forums, for example, I would have been for the most part "helping" and "loving" attempting to act through only a very limited and approved set of archetypes and when acting through others, not wanting to know or see that in myself.

However as I "challenged the master" and his beliefs I was moved in and out of opportunities/positions. What I discovered is that those orion influenced have extreme tempers, they are extremely unforgiving, they demand a high-level of respect that cannot be crossed, they also have shocking knowledge and skills.

They do literally put bondage contraptions on the energetic body. I could feel them being put on me and also I could feel them being taken off at times. Sometimes I didn't really mind, because the opiate sensations that came with were incredible. Fighting the energy away got tiring after awhile. It's like "ok fine! dammit! you can stay, just behave yourself!!". Until the realization that the same entity is still seemingly sabotaging your life. I won't bore you with all the details, but for one, they are not exactly bringing a partner "to me" but rather keeping potentials away by all means possible. It's probably like a harem. Lots of lonely females in waiting and not enough males. I guess there are examples in the animal kingdom (horses) so I can't really judge it as something wrong. There were of course, aspects of my experiences that I enjoyed.


I still consider myself STS out of necessity. If I were not I would be enslaved energetically right now. I have played the love and bliss out game and that is when "it comes and locates me again". So I am not convinced that polarizing towards serving others is a good idea at all. In fact it seems foolish. Serving others was slavery after all. Even when I give a gift I make sure to do it for ME, with NO expectation in return. When I don't, it's a set-up for disappointment and/or unhealthy relationships that get imbued with duty and resentments as a guiding force.
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To bad the elite has to be "elite" and so damn sleazy too. Too bad it can't instead be something powerful and beautiful that promotes the free-will of others in more loving ways. I guess that is in and after 6D.

Perhaps though, we need them. We don't get it. We can read all the books sit and think we are doing the work, take psy drugs or go to therapists and then we can think we are healed or enlightened and whole and still... we are fragmented souls because really healing doesn't work through knowledge alone but has to be acted out and solved on a deeper level.

So where does that leave me now? Not sure. I'm still unresolved from my experiences. I still have a difficult time chasing dreams and enjoying life fully. There have been a few very amazing little kids around me this weekend and it sort of broke me open to seeing life with some potential value again. I've basically just wanted to be free in spirit without body since 2009.
Lulu

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What is meant is people who would agree with STS ideas. Those who think themselves superior to others are those who resonate with Orion. They are the ones Orion would contact to give them ideas and techniques of how to force their choices on those inferior to them, since the Elites knows best what is good for us. Or so they believe. Thus enslaving us.

but that is ambiguous then isn't it? and it's from such a low vibration. My Ideas are to serve myself, this is what I know is right.

I still don't understand why some of the Orion entity is still so hell bent on political and financial slavery and how they can continue in that. Whatever it is, is sad. There is deep wound there.

I think the energetic slavery was just "capturing Love", to keep it and possess it. Thats why it didn't feel bad. One could look at it as an honor.
Lulu

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I can't say with certainty that I have experienced Orion power, but I have dealt with some extremely negative sources, and I have always felt repelled.

Hi KindaEnlightened, I like your name!

Very interesting, I have not felt repelled in the least. I have felt magnetically attracted. It could be the density is more 6th. (?)

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As far as the archetypes, I don't think it is so much a matter of accepting them, but more of a matter of finding your relationship with them.

hmmmm interesting thought. I want to try what Ra talks about below and see where I really am with them.

88.24 Questioner: Ra must have had, shall we say, a lesson plan or course of training for the twenty-two archetypes to be given either to those of third density of Ra or, later on, to those in Egypt. Could you describe this scenario for the training course?

Ra: I am Ra.
We find it more nearly appropriate to discuss our plans in acquainting initiates upon your own planet with this particular version of the archetypes of the archetypical mind. Our first stage was the presentation of the images, one after the other, in the following order: one, eight, fifteen; two, nine, sixteen; three, ten, seventeen; four, eleven, eighteen; five, twelve, nineteen; six, thirteen, twenty; seven, fourteen, twenty-one; twenty-two. In this way the fundamental relationships between mind, body, and spirit could begin to be discovered, for as one sees, for instance, the Matrix of the Mind in comparison to the Matrices of Body and Spirit one may draw certain tentative conclusions.

When, at length, the student had mastered these visualizations and had considered each of the seven classifications of archetype, looking at the relationships between mind, body, and spirit, we then suggested consideration of archetypes in pairs: one and two; three and four; five; six and seven. You may continue in this form for the body and spirit archetypes. You will note that the consideration of the Significator was left unpaired, for the Significator shall be paired with Archetype Twenty-Two.

At the end of this line of inquiry the student was beginning to grasp more and more deeply the qualities and resonances of each archetype. At this point, using various other aids to spiritual evolution, we encouraged the initiate to learn to become each archetype and, most importantly, to know as best as possible within your illusion when the adoption of the archetype’s persona would be spiritually or metaphysically helpful.

As you can see, much work was done creatively by each initiate. We have no dogma to offer. Each perceives that which is needful and helpful to the self.

Lulu

[KindaEnlightened]

I can't say with certainty that I have experienced Orion power, but I have dealt with some extremely negative sources, and I have always felt repelled.

Hi KindaEnlightened, I like your name!

Very interesting, I have not felt repelled in the least. I have felt magnetically attracted. It could be the density is more 6th. (?)

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As far as the archetypes, I don't think it is so much a matter of accepting them, but more of a matter of finding your relationship with them.

hmmmm interesting thought. I want to try what Ra talks about below and see where I really am with them.

88.24 Questioner: Ra must have had, shall we say, a lesson plan or course of training for the twenty-two archetypes to be given either to those of third density of Ra or, later on, to those in Egypt. Could you describe this scenario for the training course?

Ra: I am Ra.
We find it more nearly appropriate to discuss our plans in acquainting initiates upon your own planet with this particular version of the archetypes of the archetypical mind. Our first stage was the presentation of the images, one after the other, in the following order: one, eight, fifteen; two, nine, sixteen; three, ten, seventeen; four, eleven, eighteen; five, twelve, nineteen; six, thirteen, twenty; seven, fourteen, twenty-one; twenty-two. In this way the fundamental relationships between mind, body, and spirit could begin to be discovered, for as one sees, for instance, the Matrix of the Mind in comparison to the Matrices of Body and Spirit one may draw certain tentative conclusions.

When, at length, the student had mastered these visualizations and had considered each of the seven classifications of archetype, looking at the relationships between mind, body, and spirit, we then suggested consideration of archetypes in pairs: one and two; three and four; five; six and seven. You may continue in this form for the body and spirit archetypes. You will note that the consideration of the Significator was left unpaired, for the Significator shall be paired with Archetype Twenty-Two.

At the end of this line of inquiry the student was beginning to grasp more and more deeply the qualities and resonances of each archetype. At this point, using various other aids to spiritual evolution, we encouraged the initiate to learn to become each archetype and, most importantly, to know as best as possible within your illusion when the adoption of the archetype’s persona would be spiritually or metaphysically helpful.

As you can see, much work was done creatively by each initiate. We have no dogma to offer. Each perceives that which is needful and helpful to the self.

Lulu

Thanks Lulu,
I like your name too!

I suspect that part of my repulsion comes from my inability (so far) to properly deal with confrontations. I really can't stand confrontations, to the point that I become anxious and panic. I've had issues with a blocked/weak throat chakra. I know it would be better for me to be welcoming and to stand my ground and be as loving as I can be, we'll see if I can walk the walk, when the next opportunity arises.

As far as what you have quoted, I would like to be able to do that too, but I haven't grasped that yet. I don't feel like I get much out of it when I have tried, I don't feel much of a connection. I have started looking into kabbalah and astrology to see if those are more engaging to me. I do think that Ra may have had it easier than us:

60.16 Questioner: The pyramid shape then, as I understand it, was deemed by your social memory complex to be at that time of paramount importance as the physical training aid for spiritual development. At this particular time in the evolution of our planet it seems that you place little or no emphasis on this shape. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is our honor/duty to attempt to remove the distortions that the use of this shape has caused in the thinking of your peoples and in the activities of some of your entities. We do not deny that such shapes are efficacious, nor do we withhold the general gist of this efficacy. However, we wish to offer our understanding, limited though it is, that contrary to our naïve beliefs many thousands of your years ago the optimum shape for initiation does not exist.

Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.

We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.

We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again.

At this space/time we may best serve you, we believe, by stating that the pyramid for meditation along with other rounded and arched or pointed circular shapes is of help to you. However, it is our observation that due to the complexity of influences upon the unmanifested being at this space/time nexus among your planetary peoples it is best that the progress of the mind/body/spirit complex take place without, as you call them, training aids because when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment by moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.

You can see in the bold section, They didn't have wars, they didn't have financial or ownership issues. They had sex and liked to sit around pondering! In our world, I think we are doing pretty darn good just being awake to the idea of oneness. I thought the part that is underlined was noteworthy, even though they were talking about pyramids, I would imagine the Tarot is a training aid too.