Notes, Harmonies and Octaves

[Unbound]

Sparked by the other thread about Rays and Vibrations I wanted to see what people thought of this idea, and also wondering if Ra has touched upon this particular concept.

In music there are 12 notes in total, 7 regular and 5 "accidental", the sharp notes. Combined they equal 12, same number as the zodiac. Makes me wonder where these other 5 notes fit in, I've read about secrets surrounding the Unknown 5, but have yet to discover anything particular. From what I've examined the main 7 notes are "solid" notes, the other 5 are more "moving", I've speculated that these notes may very well symbolize the PROCESS of the densities, since they are intermediaries. I believe that the notes "start" with C, so C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, A#, B. This is based on Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Ti/Si. Interesting to note there are two intervals, distance between two notes, with no intermediary, B - C and E - F.

I have connected these to the chakras as well in a way I feel most logical, starting with:
C = Root
C# = Elimination (Bowels)
D = Sacral/Sexual
D# = Dissolution (Digestive Tract)
E = Solar Plexus/Emotional
F = Heart
F# = Sufflation (Lungs) (Symbolically an expansion)
G = Throat
G# = Distinction (Hypopharynx/Mouth/Jaw)
A = Third Eye
A# = Generation (Brain)
B = Crown

This is just a system I have found comfortable, that's the thing about systems, they can be re-ordered by anyone.
These other 5 could also be placed on various other organs, and was done so by some I believe, what do you guys think of this connection between music and the octaves/densities and thus our particular creation as a whole? The alchemists did extensive work on this, and Pythagoras would have had a thing or two to say I'm sure.

[kycahi]

I hope that this new thread goes somewhere, because I'm interested although fairly ignorant of music theory. For a long time I wondered why not every pair white keys had a half-step black one between them. Finally I got that those white keys were already only separated by a half note.

Your calling the accidental notes "moving" reminded me that J.S. Back was a big proponent of the Tempered Scale, which involved a little adjustment of certain notes. Maybe those were black keys.

Lots of instruments are adjustable on the fly, e.g. horns that the musician vibrates lips to make sound, and the voice, could make allowance for beauty. Instruments with keyboards and with holes are not able to do that.

In college, my fraternity participated in a Barbershop Quartet contest, and the expert we got to teach us explained that the chords that we sang could not be duplicated on a piano. They could only be done with voices because of the very slight differences in the notes that we sang vs. the ones that a piano would make. I just remember how electric my spine would feel when we did those notes just right.

So IMHO music does have a lot of information about the Creation and our part in it. You are right about Pythagoras, too.

[Unbound]

Ah, yes, well all of these notes are particular of western music. In fact, "notes" are just a frequency gradiant. (http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html) In middle eastern orchestras they say there are as many different tunings as there are these orchestras. Realistically, there is an infinite variation of "notes", just as different frequencies. That's why there has to be so many different kinds of instruments!

Although you CAN bend notes, as its called doing these slight variations, on holed instruments like a wooden flute, I can do it on mine anyways. This is also a big secret to the chants of monks.

[3DMonkey]

Bless you Azrael!! !!!

I was literally asking myself today how "sevens" fit into the twelve of astrology.

(giddy)

[Unbound]

Aha, my pleasure, the Music of the Spheres has always been an interest of mine.

[alchemikey]

good read on music theory here...free download

http://www.interferencetheory.com/Harmon...erpts.html

peace,
mikey

[nwthomas]

I think the correspondence between the seven-note scale and the energy centers is accurate. Especially considering that Ra frequently talks in terms of "octaves" (our seven densities form an octave, etc.), suggesting the analogy to music. We have a spectrum of vibration divided into seven, and this structure is repeated throughout the Creation in the densities, the energy centers, the light spectrum, and the musical scale.

[Unbound]

Certainly! Also a very interesting a notable thing about Tolkien's works is that they established a creation story of entities "composing" the cosmos.

[Oceania]

can you have a solfeggio C?

[Unbound]

Yes I believe "Mi", or 528Hz, is the Solfeggio frequency that is closest to C. Supposed to be good for DNA repair and transformation. My friend and I have been experimenting with frequencies lately, and he was taught in his permaculture class to meditate and play frequencies to/with the plants. Very interesting!

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"528 cycles per second is literally the core creative frequency of nature. It is love," Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz.

[Oceania]

that's great, i didn't know it was the core creative freq of nature lol. i love solfeggio, i did see a youtube video someone doing tuning with forks, starting with C and so on, and i thought why doesn't she use solfeggio forks?

[Unbound]

Aha Well Solfeggio is at least in part originally the Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Ti/Si, although apparently originally there wasn't the last one. My friend and I listen to them quite frequently, as well as play them to the plants around the house.

[Oceania]

i played Shekina to my kitty and he looked around like he was seeing angels, in the part where she says this is from the ascended masters.

[Unbound]

Cats can see many things we do not. Every sound is a call to a force, every vibration is syncronized with an arch-type. There is constant transformation and creation in all the densities. That is excellent!

[Oceania]

i was very excited.

[111]

Azrael, How do you believe these notes match up with the zodiac? The same as you aligned them with chakaras...

[Unbound]

To be honest, the Zodiac is more archetypal, whereas these notes are more typal. That is, a zodiac sign is a complex, whereas these notes are complex parts. Each archetype is composed of a different balance of the types, each one expressing not just a single emphasized type but rather more of a personality resulting from different balances of the types. It must always be noted that these notes are just frequencies that have been discovered to have a pattern and to hold to them too hard will always be a limitation.

[Derringer]

Not sure if anyone is familiar with Ellie Crystal, but here's a link that ties in nicely to the topic.
http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html

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Not sure if anyone is familiar with Ellie Crystal, but here's a link that ties in nicely to the topic.
http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html

[Unbound]

OH! I've seen this already, actually Sacred Geometry is an area I am deeply interested in. Thank you for posting! Blessings, adonai