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    Thread: Ra and the highest god in the gnostic description of creation including incarnation


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    06-12-2022, 07:08 PM
    Recently i read a book, that shows interesting analogies to the knowledge presented by Ra:
    DER GEHEIME KRIEG DER ANUNNAKI: Wie dunkle Mächte durch Glauben und Kirche die Bevölkerung manipulieren
    An similar english version of the book:
    Reign of the Anunnaki: The Alien Manipulation of Our Spiritual Destiny as pdf


    Quote:The true Prime Creator, referred to in the Gnostic description of creation only as the First Being, is invisible, unnamed and an immeasurable light.
    In the pre-Israelite religion in Canaan he is called 'El 'Eljon (the Supreme God), who has 70 sons, one of whom is Yahweh.
    'El 'Eljon - and not Yahweh - is the one Jesus called "Father". Cf. Jn 8:31-47, where Jesus makes it clear that Yahweh is by no means the supreme God.

    According to Gnostic teaching, the First Being had a female aspect, Barbelo, his "birthing" creative power.
    From these two emerged Autogenes (the one who emerged from himself), whom we call Christ and who sent us Jesus as a messenger.
    That primordial light of creation, its primordial energy, is the true source of the existence of the universe and also our true source.
    It is the light that is the final goal of reincarnation and also our origin, from which we, as those who walk the path of reincarnation, once stepped out in the beginning in order to be able to fully live out free will (among other things).
    For this, the light contracted (cf. the Kabbalistic term tzimtzum), so that outside of it a dark realm emerged into which the souls - we - went out.
    In that dark area, however, a structure had to emerge first, and from it material worlds eventually emerged.
    A being from the primordial light was to go there for this purpose; this was a being that had to be unconscious of its own light, because otherwise it would have brought its light into the dark area and illuminated it.
    This being was called Jaldabaoth by the Gnostics.
    It escaped into the dark regions, established itself there and created from itself "co-workers" or "assistants", the archons.
    It then, as mentioned, usurped the role of God and made us believe that it was the Creator and the only God - a usurper who called himself Yahweh (later also Allah).

    Reincarnation has always existed, and the belief in it (or rather the knowledge about it) is as old as humanity and belongs to practically all ancient cultures and religions - also to the original Gnostic Christianity and in substantial parts also to the Hebrew religion.
    Even in Islam this knowledge was known, and there were and still are groups believing in reincarnation.
    Yahweh wanted all souls to remain under his influence, therefore they should reincarnate in his region.
    He pursued this goal by influencing people to impose bad karma on themselves through violence and negative behaviour, because this ensured their return to his region.
    This kind of thing works better when people do not believe in reincarnation.
    And that is precisely why Yahweh strove to eliminate the knowledge of reincarnation in his religions.
    For this reason, the Christian churches and Islam have lost the belief in reincarnation, and the knowledge has also been lost in part of the Hebrew religion - even if it has been preserved to a significant extent in Kabbalah.


    Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)


    As you can read, this knowledge has obviously always been there, but unfortunately it has been made to fall into oblivion.
    Various "variants" of God have even been created, all of them are only intended to distract from the one infinite Creator and ultimately represent only a synonym for Lucifer.

    Ra goes beyond the knowledge of the Gnostic description in his explanations, but without going into the details of the manipulation of our history and religion.
    It is therefore time to clear this up and finally flatten the way for the development of humankind.
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    06-13-2022, 12:39 PM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2022, 11:41 AM by Quincunx.)
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    06-13-2022, 03:17 PM
    (06-13-2022, 12:39 PM)Quincunx Wrote: The author of "Reign of the Anunnaki"

    Quote:Jan Erik Sigdell has a master's degree in electrical engineering and a doctorate in medical engineering, both from Chalmers University of Technology in Gothenburg, Sweden. From 1980 to 1997 he worked as a past-life regression therapist as well as a freelance consultant to the dialysis industry.

    I laughed at those credentials. Then I read parts of the book and saw it had a lot of twisting of the words from the Bible so that it creates another line of thinking that sounds true.

    What did Ra say about "Urantia".

    Quote:14.30 Questioner: The Urantia Book, which I haven’t read. Who gave that?

    Ra: I am Ra. This was given by a series of discarnate entities of your own Earth planes, the so-called inner planes. This material is not passed by the Council.

    In my opinion the book "Reign of the Anunnaki" is not a credible source of information.

    Why laugh at his credentials? A man must make a living.
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    06-14-2022, 03:11 AM (This post was last modified: 06-14-2022, 03:12 AM by tadeus.)
    (06-13-2022, 12:39 PM)Quincunx Wrote: In my opinion the book "Reign of the Anunnaki" is not a credible source of information.

    The author presents a bucket of informations always with a list of the sources - so you can proove and think about it.
    The main source he is pointing are old gnostic texts like the Pistis Sophia and the Nag Hammadi Library.

    My intention of the thread is to show that in the far history the basic knowledge of the one infinite creator was already existing.
    So the gnostic texts approve the teaching of Ra and vice versa.
    I have not stated that this book is teaching better knowledge as Ra or is more credible.

    The second aspect of this book is to show that religion and faith has been deliberately manipulated in the history since Jehoshua.
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    06-14-2022, 08:04 PM (This post was last modified: 06-14-2022, 08:05 PM by Infinite Unity.)
    (06-14-2022, 03:11 AM)tadeus Wrote:
    (06-13-2022, 12:39 PM)Quincunx Wrote: In my opinion the book "Reign of the Anunnaki" is not a credible source of information.

    The author presents a bucket of informations always with a list of the sources - so you can proove and think about it.
    The main source he is pointing are old gnostic texts like the Pistis Sophia and the Nag Hammadi Library.

    My intention of the thread is to show that in the far history the basic knowledge of the one infinite creator was already existing.
    So the gnostic texts approve the teaching of Ra and vice versa.
    I have not stated that this book is teaching better knowledge as Ra or is more credible.

    The second aspect of this book is to show that religion and faith has been deliberately manipulated in the history since Jehoshua.

    In my own personal opinion this sector/domain/area of the 3D plane we like to call Earth has been decaying and under tight control. 

    In my own personal opinion about 10-12k years ago what we Mark as the deluge happened followed up by the freezing in of this sector of the plane. It allowed for the extermination to extinction untold and uncountable species, thoughts, and traditions. It literally was like a purge of magic from the world. Now that the great shift is here and the ice wall/enclosement is coming down. Many things will happen.

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    06-15-2022, 06:07 AM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2022, 06:08 AM by tadeus.)
    (06-14-2022, 08:04 PM)Infinite Unity Wrote: In my own personal opinion this sector/domain/area of the 3D plane we like to call Earth has been decaying and under tight control. 

    In my own personal opinion about 10-12k years ago what we Mark as the deluge happened followed up by the freezing in of this sector of the plane. It allowed for the extermination to extinction untold and uncountable species, thoughts, and traditions. It literally was like a purge of magic from the world. Now that the great shift is here and the ice wall/enclosement  is coming down. Many things will happen.

    Yes - there where several civilisations with several races in the far history.
    Everything follows the principle of vibration, rhythm and polarity.

    This thread is primary dedicated the last epoch, which was basically inaugurated with the incarnation of jehoshua.

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    #7
    06-15-2022, 11:06 PM
    Not sure whether "'El 'Eljon" / "The supreme god who has (only) 70 sons" can be exactly 1-to-1 mapped in definition and meaning to Ra's definition of "One Infinite Creator".

    In terms of 'ancient scriptures', Ra's definition of "One Infinite Creator" fits nicely with Vedic's "Brahman" and Lao Tse's "Tao".
    In which the number of "sons & daughters" are "uncountable".
    Yet each of them are 'temporal' in nature, part of the illusion.
    Among them are 'entities' / 'identities' which commonly referred as "god(s)", 'angels' and "devas/devis" in sanskrit.
    And definitely you, me, them as well.

    I like how Ra's refer to all finite form of the infinite as merely "identities" or "entities", as it shows that he has an 'egalitarian view' of everything. All identities / entities are equally divine, none is 'higher' or 'lower'.

    While Canaanites view (whether Israelites or non-Israelites) seems to have a view that the "god(s)" are 'higher' compared to merely human, god(s) are 'divine' while human are 'not divine'. #separation
    And "My God" is higher in divinity, authority, power than "Your/Their God".

    And as explained by Ra, Service-To-Self group tends to view things in hierarchical manner (who/what has status that is higher and lower) while Service-To-Others group view things in the opposite, everything are finite part of the one infinite thus equal a.k.a egalitarian view. Every finite part is a part of you. #unity
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    06-16-2022, 12:11 PM
    (06-15-2022, 11:06 PM)jafar Wrote: I like how Ra's refer to all finite form of the infinite as merely "identities" or "entities", as it shows that he has an 'egalitarian view' of everything. All identities / entities are equally divine, none is 'higher' or 'lower'. 

    So agree.  This  adds to the very peaceful feeling you get from reading any excerpts from Ra

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    06-19-2022, 05:22 AM
    (06-15-2022, 11:06 PM)jafar Wrote: Not sure whether "'El 'Eljon" / "The supreme god who has (only) 70 sons" can be exactly 1-to-1 mapped in definition and meaning to Ra's definition of "One Infinite Creator".

    In terms of 'ancient scriptures', Ra's definition of "One Infinite Creator" fits nicely with Vedic's "Brahman" and Lao Tse's "Tao".
    In which the number of "sons & daughters" are "uncountable".
    Yet each of them are 'temporal' in nature, part of the illusion.
    Among them are 'entities' / 'identities' which commonly referred as "god(s)", 'angels' and "devas/devis" in sanskrit.
    And definitely you, me, them as well.

    You are right that a mapping is difficult - different interpretations are possible.
    What matters is the common ground, which is focused primarily in the belief in one infinite Creator from whom we come and to whom we return in the end.
    This fact alone already allows the logical conclusion, that we are all (only) a common part of the one Creator.

    Another essential part of the perception is that we, as part of the one infinite Creator, can only search for and find the Creator within ourselves.
    The religions now try to prevent us from this, by demanding a dogmatic worship of a personified external creator.
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    06-20-2022, 03:36 PM (This post was last modified: 06-20-2022, 03:36 PM by jafar.)
    (06-19-2022, 05:22 AM)tadeus Wrote: Another essential part of the perception is that we, as part of the one infinite Creator, can only search for and find the Creator within ourselves.
    The religions now try to prevent us from this, by demanding a dogmatic worship of a personified external creator.

    I don't remember the exact word or where, but somewhere either Q'uo or Ra mentioned that Service-To-Self philosophy (such as dogmatic religion) does serve it's function as a catalyst for the 3rd density entities to start the seeking. As only through the act of free-will-driven seeking, and exposure to the opposing polarity, the entity will evolve further and find the opposite polarity, the service-to-others.  

    Or in Yogic terminology, through the IS-NOT one will recognize the IS.
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    06-20-2022, 10:50 PM
    STS run religious orders have certainly contributed to creating the siphon to help trap those who fall into the well of indifference, but I agree it does serve to catalyze seeking as the positive orientated entity should eventually observe the contradictions in service and morality offered by these systems. But it may be a hard way out for those buried deep in the black hole of the well.
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    06-21-2022, 11:55 AM (This post was last modified: 06-21-2022, 11:56 AM by tadeus.)
    (06-20-2022, 03:36 PM)jafar Wrote: I don't remember the exact word or where, but somewhere either Q'uo or Ra mentioned that Service-To-Self philosophy (such as dogmatic religion) does serve it's function as a catalyst for the 3rd density entities to start the seeking. As only through the act of free-will-driven seeking, and exposure to the opposing polarity, the entity will evolve further and find the opposite polarity, the service-to-others.  

    Or in Yogic terminology, through the IS-NOT one will recognize the IS.

    This is possible but not probable.

    The quoted book shows up that people are systematically impeded to find the (right) spiritual path.

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    06-21-2022, 10:34 PM
    This was very informative and mind opening, it seems like so much spiritual knowledge and wisdom was lost.

    The only thing that doesn't seem to fit right is the part about Yahweh, because according to the Ra material and some of Quo, Yahweh were part of the council and have helped the lost and tanged souls that couldn't be reached for a long time.
    In the material they say that some time after humans already walked the Earth and called for Yahweh once again, their intentions and requests became more selfish and so a different entity from the Orion group took upon itself that name and answered those calls. So perhaps there is a lot more confusion that followed up.

    Regardless I am very surprised that such wisdom is coming back to us as if the veil is thinning, thank you very much for sharing.
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    06-26-2022, 08:18 AM (This post was last modified: 06-26-2022, 08:25 AM by tadeus.)
    (06-21-2022, 10:34 PM)ada Wrote: This was very informative and mind opening, it seems like so much spiritual knowledge and wisdom was lost.

    The only thing that doesn't seem to fit right is the part about Yahweh, because according to the Ra material and some of Quo, Yahweh were part of the council and have helped the lost and tanged souls that couldn't be reached for a long time.
    In the material they say that some time after humans already walked the Earth and called for Yahweh once again, their intentions and requests became more selfish and so a different entity from the Orion group took upon itself that name and answered those calls. So perhaps there is a lot more confusion that followed up.

    Regardless I am very surprised that such wisdom is coming back to us as if the veil is thinning, thank you very much for sharing.

    Thank you.

    I would say you have answered the question for yourself - it is the intention of a deception that Enlil / Marduk of the Annunaki has pretended to be yahweh.
    The goal is that all worship is ultimately directed to Enlil / Baal / Marduk / Lucifer.

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    06-29-2022, 10:33 AM
    (06-26-2022, 08:18 AM)tadeus Wrote:
    (06-21-2022, 10:34 PM)ada Wrote: In the material they say that some time after humans already walked the Earth and called for Yahweh once again, their intentions and requests became more selfish and so a different entity from the Orion group took upon itself that name and answered those calls. So perhaps there is a lot more confusion that followed up.

    Thank you.

    I would say you have answered the question for yourself - it is the intention of a deception that Enlil / Marduk of the Annunaki has pretended to be yahweh.
    The goal is that all worship is ultimately directed to Enlil / Baal / Marduk / Lucifer.


    I remember reading on one of Carla's book, that she always try to fill herself with love and unselfishness before any attempt of channeling. Because sometimes when she's in a bad mood or angry the one that 'appear' are among the negative entities.


    So it's like a radio station, the frequency that you are at the moment will be intune to the radio station in that frequency. When you're negative / selfish then negative / selfish entity will came out.

    Yes if the 'entity' demands worship and/or issue a threat and/or uses fear then definitely it's among the negative.

    Negative entities will always try to over-powered you while positive entities will always try to empower you.
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    06-30-2022, 04:08 AM (This post was last modified: 06-30-2022, 04:10 AM by tadeus.)
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