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    Infinite Unity (Offline)

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    #31
    06-07-2019, 07:55 PM (This post was last modified: 06-07-2019, 07:56 PM by Infinite Unity.)
    (06-07-2019, 06:11 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-07-2019, 05:23 PM)Infinite Unity Wrote:
    (06-07-2019, 05:01 PM)Glow Wrote: I don’t think it’s quite that simple. The illusion is separation so all actions that take selfishly or give due to perceived need to be taken from/unworthiness drive further into exploration of illusion.
    Accepting people will explore illusion and not judging would be the undistorted way but it isn’t the same as saying all distortions are leading to unity/nonillusion.

    Once you feel oneness subjugating self  or another loses it’s appeal if you are drawn to continue moving in that direction.

    The same though can be said about sexual conquests where one is either trying to “get laid” so smooth talking people into doing what you want, maybe letting them think you like them for more than a lay. Or on the flip side sleeping with people easily in hopes they will like you for more than just sex.

    It still is taking you out if green ray sexual energy transfer. Either (separation consciousness) taking from other at their expense emotionally or a distortion towards lack of self worth so oppression/non green ray towards self(so still separation consciousness).

    All in all these choices are made every day in every interaction not just sex.
    I truly don’t think one can get rid of a distortion just by wanting it gone but it is useful to see if something is based in separation/illusion verses unity and make sure you are conscious of why your biases are there and where you wish to go.

    For some it might not matter play however long in separation for others we are strongly compelled to seek unity so finding the distortions based in taking from/being taken from, control/being controlled harming/being harmed and healing/at least understanding it is a pretty important step on the path.

    Without illusion there is only a singularity, or singular being. With illusion there is a mirage, which is neither separation, or singularity, but unity.

    Unity inherently is separation, while at the same time harmony. Units, working or being together essentially. A common goal is most often times interpreted as the coherence or causality of, what 3d entities assume is Unity.

    Unity essentially means separate but connected or One.

    There is One energy that can be harnassed through service to others(Unity), and from service to self(separation). It is not that these two options create the energy, but rather allow for the entity to harness it. To use it, to work with it.

    To me Unity really mean allness, so it is confusing to see how it is often reffered to as unlike what it is. In the basic description of the Law of One, Unity would be this "You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity.".

    The unity of sunlight moving through a prism is all the colors, green is not anymore unity than the other colors also are together. Having learned Unity is to be like the Logos, to encompass all ways of distortions that free will enables. This is why polarity is not principle of learning Unity, because polarity keeps you separate as a self. To be in positive polarity you need to be what is not negative, to be in negative polarity you need to be what is not positive. In Unity you are that which emcompasses both polarities, just like the Earth is both the positive humans and a negative humans, it shies away from neither distortion but encompasses all that is. It is all joys just as all sorrows.

    I think we could consider that 4D is the density the furthest from Unity. The lessons of 3D create this separation and the lessons of 5D break it down. The other densities are closer to the edges of the Octave, where Unity is either unconscious or conscious.

    To me Unity is a derivative, sub, distortion, or thought as everything else. The truth lay between the lines, behind the scenes, or reflections of the nature of all. Unity at the highest most undistorted truth is but a motif of the nature of the Creator.

    As each expression only captures a breath, a moment, a unit of the infathomable, unending infinite flow of creators being/spirit.

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    Glow Away

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    #32
    06-07-2019, 09:07 PM
    I feel like some of us are talking about 1 version of unity. The all encompassing of every part and every distortion, and the others are talking about a different form of unity where all parts of creation are seen as needing to be taken into the heart so one neither seeks to control/oppress or be controlled/oppressed.

    Remember we are in 3D trying to move the planet forward in opening the heart to all so the movement would be to no longer act sts distortions abuse/manipulation/cruelty upon self or other-self.

    Of course at 6D perspective one can see all things are one and the shadow is needed to expand the light but that isn’t what 3D is about. It’s about making the choice, sts or sto. So healing or resolving distortions that hurt self or other willfully (closed heart) is the step we are heading for when the ego moves towards 4D positive.

    Not judgement of parts that are sts or separation consciousness but slowly opening the heart to be holding all in the heart and not wanting any to be hurt or controlled or oppressed.

    Even at 6D - consciousness realizes the folly is necessary but it isn’t glad about the suffering, it simply understands it and it moves towards 7D where eventually distortions are so erased there is no distortions so no ego, just allness without personification.

    We are in 3D though moving to 4D so yes manipulating others, enslaving others even if willingly is a negative distortion so a blockage in the open heart 4D positive.

    We could talk all day about this because clearly in different instances both are correct but the question was wether it was a distortion signifying blockage(of the heart) and it is as Ra even said.

    From 6D sure whatever but we are not seeking the path that is not, even though that path is needed for the path that is.

    Again my 2cents not really needing to change anyone’s mind I just feel both 4D interpretation and the all is well version others offer should be offered.

    Certainly all is well but that’s not why we are here, we are here to open green ray and move to 4D society.
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    #33
    06-07-2019, 09:08 PM
    Or whatever. I don’t really care that much.
    I answered a question, shared my opinion/experience, everyone is also obviously welcome to disagree.

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    #34
    06-07-2019, 10:06 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2019, 01:09 AM by Glow.)
    One last comment re:unity

    Unity awareness out of ego is knowing shadow is used to being light. Pain of a woman sold into sexual slavery(one of the kinks mentioned here) will big picture either make her so wounded and destroyed she could never hurt a fly, but likely will find trust hard or being loved impossible, but will never hurt another because she knows the pain, still immense suffering, or make her so cruel she hurts many and maybe those people will be broken and suffering enough to never hurt another. It is not joyous and hoping for pain and suffering to be caused. It’s the shadow being healed, the not understood being experienced for understanding.

    It is not thinking that causing pain and suffering are in and of themselves wonderful expressions of the creator. They are the shadow, the unconscious wounds that drive growth and light. They are loved deeply as the wounded aspects that need to be viewed with compassion, understood(light) and love be found where there was none so healed.

    So from unity perspective we want love peace and happiness for all but understand these wounds need to be explored and healed and often in doing so greater awareness is given.

    I find it odd people argue so hard for the closed heart in many threads, here even more really to be seen as equally healthy parts of the creator. Equal yes but not an end to them selves, light must be found in the shadow. Really these are sex games of slavery, abuse, torture, hate of other, and if offering self, then self.

    Making it safe and in a set up of trust does not remove the fact these games are fantasies of harm. If you still think it’s not a closed heart why not include the children fantasies. Yes safer to play that out as adults in crib and diaper(available for adults at your sex show or bdsm store)
    but it is still an urge to violate a child or be violated as a child.

    To view it as not closing the heart or not a blockage because we are imagining adults being treated this way does not change it is games of exerting power over and suffering upon another even if make believe.

    Obviously I care about this more than I thought.

    Here is maybe why. Both self and other abused as children felt the most security when our abusers used us. We “knew” we had value so were “loved” as long as we let them do what they needed.

    When I finally loved someone so deeply I saw myself in them and we were on equal footing, no separation, both fully 1 in my heart I no longer wanted to be treated as an object because I now knew through loving other so deeply and seeing self so completely in them that I too was worthy of love uncorrupted by another’s need to hurt and demean me.

    He was not there yet. He could love me that way but still could not feel love in that secure sense unless it was through being used and thrown away. I could not do that to him. I could not hurt him. We explored it a bit through me telling him stories of it instead.

    Thankfully with relentless application of love he no longer wants the abuse version either. He can now accept love in small but intense doses, to much frightens him like it couldn’t be true but the love he can accept he revels in. It’s very sad. At least he no longer needs to revisit that wound to feel a twisted version of love.

    So even healthy non abused folks playing these games. They have no idea the real suffering they are role playing. It’s like thinking you like rape fantasies, talk to someone who has been raped. It’s fucking brutal.

    Just because you are both consenting adult playing, does not negate the fact it’s a game of the closed hearts. Play away, shadows need light to heal but yes it’s a sign of a blockage, maybe not a huge one, but still a blockage.
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    #35
    06-07-2019, 10:53 PM
    Yes. Exactly. Thank you for expressing that so beautifully.

    I am so pleased to hear you are better!

    Your partner would benefit from trauma therapy through EMDR. http://www.emdria.org.

    Much love.
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    #36
    06-07-2019, 11:34 PM
    My stomach feels so twisted reading this thread.
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    #37
    06-08-2019, 12:51 PM
    So moving Glow. My heart to you and everyone here.
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    #38
    06-08-2019, 03:27 PM (This post was last modified: 06-08-2019, 03:28 PM by TheSeekersLighthouse.)
    (06-06-2019, 04:44 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:
    (06-06-2019, 03:41 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: I'd like to reiterate what others have said: the kink is not the distortion, but merely an expression of the underlying distortion. By exploring, accepting, and balancing it, you distort further. The goal is to learn about the self through this distortion, not to get rid of distortion.

    I would think that exploring, accepting, and balancing would distort less, not further.

    This is exactly why we have explored it.

    I read another post above saying that it is a game of closed hearts. I do not believe this is so. Part of opening our heart was exploring these aspects, in a safe, sane and consensual way. It has given us trust in our relationship beyond anything we could ever have imagined.

    I can see how it easily could become that, but it is not a black/white issue at all. Despite living in duality, life is not entirely black/white, as it is the intent behind actions that tends to matter more. And polarity is about more than how you are in the bedroom, it is I think a sum of all your thoughts, actions and deeds towards others/self.
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    #39
    06-09-2019, 10:44 AM
    (06-07-2019, 01:52 AM)Louisabell Wrote: In my experience of 6th ray energy transfers you need to be 100% present and focused, there is no room for imagination, or even a sense of a separate personality. It doesn't even seem "sexy", but sacred, more like experiencing yourself as an individualised portion of consciousness interfacing with yourself as otherself through eachothers bio-computers. You don't even really feel human anymore, yet the energy flow is more intense than any other form of sexuality (full body orgasm)

    Having said that it takes heaps more effort, and its a lot easier to collect sexual energy in the lower energy centres until it overflows into physical orgasm. Kinks excite the lower triad expressions of power, if it didn't then why would people bother with fantasies of various power dynamics? Fantasies are a turning away. They're not bad, there is always a time for distraction, but they're also not accepting what is.

    This is well said.

    I will add that an aspect of sexual role playing or other kinks is the addictive quality. Addictions are stuck energy—no movement (stagnant waters become toxic). To work through something like sexual kinks, you must be willing to move the energy past them. Just thinking out loud here.

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    06-09-2019, 11:05 AM
    (06-09-2019, 10:44 AM)Diana Wrote:
    (06-07-2019, 01:52 AM)Louisabell Wrote: In my experience of 6th ray energy transfers you need to be 100% present and focused, there is no room for imagination, or even a sense of a separate personality. It doesn't even seem "sexy", but sacred, more like experiencing yourself as an individualised portion of consciousness interfacing with yourself as otherself through eachothers bio-computers. You don't even really feel human anymore, yet the energy flow is more intense than any other form of sexuality (full body orgasm)

    Having said that it takes heaps more effort, and its a lot easier to collect sexual energy in the lower energy centres until it overflows into physical orgasm. Kinks excite the lower triad expressions of power, if it didn't then why would people bother with fantasies of various power dynamics? Fantasies are a turning away. They're not bad, there is always a time for distraction, but they're also not accepting what is.

    This is well said.

    I will add that an aspect of sexual role playing or other kinks is the addictive quality. Addictions are stuck energy—no movement (stagnant waters become toxic). To work through something like sexual kinks, you must be willing to move the energy past them. Just thinking out loud here.

    What would be the most efficient way of breaking up the stuck energies?

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    06-09-2019, 11:43 AM
    (06-09-2019, 11:05 AM)hounsic Wrote:
    (06-09-2019, 10:44 AM)Diana Wrote:
    (06-07-2019, 01:52 AM)Louisabell Wrote: In my experience of 6th ray energy transfers you need to be 100% present and focused, there is no room for imagination, or even a sense of a separate personality. It doesn't even seem "sexy", but sacred, more like experiencing yourself as an individualised portion of consciousness interfacing with yourself as otherself through eachothers bio-computers. You don't even really feel human anymore, yet the energy flow is more intense than any other form of sexuality (full body orgasm)

    Having said that it takes heaps more effort, and its a lot easier to collect sexual energy in the lower energy centres until it overflows into physical orgasm. Kinks excite the lower triad expressions of power, if it didn't then why would people bother with fantasies of various power dynamics? Fantasies are a turning away. They're not bad, there is always a time for distraction, but they're also not accepting what is.

    This is well said.

    I will add that an aspect of sexual role playing or other kinks is the addictive quality. Addictions are stuck energy—no movement (stagnant waters become toxic). To work through something like sexual kinks, you must be willing to move the energy past them. Just thinking out loud here.

    What would be the most efficient way of breaking up the stuck energies?

    I'd say step back from the energy that is moving in a distorted fashion because of the blockage and focus upon the energy that holds the blockage. It takes transparency to the energy, as to allow it to take place, but it allows movement and release in contrast to leaving it unconscious and unchanging. It somewhat takes to already vibrate above the blockage imo.

    I don't think this it is easily done by the common person. That is a bit why the natural process of balancing is through external catalysts that bring our blockages to the concious focus. So it is more likely that you need to experience things many times over to find they don't fulfill you, which brings you to touch to what is underneath. Basically: Catalyst -> Experience -> Significator -> Transformation.
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    #42
    06-09-2019, 09:35 PM
    If it's a sexual game then, even if  there might be some resulting blockages, it won't be an issue that needs resolving.  It's even possible to offer these rich experiences to the Creator in Love.  IMHO this helps heal all the negativity associated in the global psyche with these acts.  Thus transmuting these as something acceptable and lovable.

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    06-09-2019, 10:46 PM
    (06-09-2019, 09:35 PM)Patrick Wrote: If it's a sexual game then, even if  there might be some resulting blockages, it won't be an issue that needs resolving.  It's even possible to offer these rich experiences to the Creator in Love.  IMHO this helps heal all the negativity associated in the global psyche with these acts.  Thus transmuting these as something acceptable and lovable.

    I think a big aspect of it is that to work with someone in service, you need to resonate with them in where they are at. So if it is consensual and trust based, there is a greater potential for healing than rejecting the person in where they are at in the moment. A lot of these things are like a distortion that asks to be expressed/released and after the release there is a potential to dwell in the heart with the other person. I think if one of the two person vibrates at the heart level, they will become transparent to the other person and be able to play the game without forcing themselves, without being blocked to sharing the energy and that is what will create a harmony that has the potential to elevate the other person's energy. It's a lot like working with your own distortions, if you are rationalizing them away you have no potential to heal these distortions and the only manner in which you can heal them is through being transparent in empathy with them, to let them have all the place they need so that they can process what they contain. Like always, acceptance is the key toward healing and acceptance is that which denies not.

    In these things, a lot of people probably want to feel normal with someone who can enjoy what they enjoy. If what you have to offer is to make them feel abnormal, they will feel alienated and separate and it will do little more than hurt them. If on the opposite you can work with them in acceptance, healing will occur and after some times the need of these games will fall away.
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