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    10-28-2014, 03:01 AM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2015, 11:05 PM by Monica.)
    Unless you happen to have a glacier in your back yard, and it gets struck by lightning every day so you get freshly melted, electrically-charged glacier water to drink, fresh every day, then the water you are drinking now is oxidizing, and likely acidic too.

    But thanks to sophisticated Japanese engineering, we now have the technology to get the very best, healthiest water, at the touch of a button, in our own kitchens!

    I had a lot of health issues for many years, which cleared up when I started drinking this water fresh from my own machine. If something dramatically changed your life, wouldn't you tell others about it? Of course you would! So I do too. It is now my business, and I love it! I love helping people. The money is just a bonus!

    The Enagic Kangen Water machine is the most expensive water ionizer device available in the US, and for good reason. It's the best.

    This isn't a toy. Please don't buy a knockoff from the internet, until you talk to me. I have important info that I strongly suggest you consider, before buying anything!

    I don't drive the most expensive car. But when it comes to my family's health, I want the best. I had a cheaper brand before that did nothing for me. Then it broke (after just 2 years) and I got the Enagic machine, and noticed results the very first day!

    Enagic is the ONLY water ionzier manufacturer with ISO MEDICAL certification. Check it out. NO other brand has ISO 13485.  The knockoffs have, at best, only ISO certifications for 'good manufacturing practices' which means nothing. A toaster can have that; it might be a very good toaster, but that doesn't make it medical equipment!

    Please note that the competitors have Korean FDA certification only for 'good manufacturing practices' whereas the Enagic machine has Japanese FDA certification as  medical equipment.

    See the Japanese FDA and other certifications here:
    http://www.enagic.com/technology_certificates.php

    Also, competitors only have ISO 'quality manufacturing' certifications, whereas Enagic is the only brand with ISO 'medical equipment' certification in addition to other ISO certifications.

    ISO 13485 - Proof of
    licensing of Medical Device.

    It's also an amazing kitchen appliance! Check out the cleaning waters! I don't buy laundry detergent anymore.

    There is so much more I wish I could say, but can't, due to the evil medical mafia. So if you want to know more, you'll need to contact me. I don't visit B4 much anymore, so please contact me via my website:

    http://crystalkangen.com/
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    10-28-2014, 12:14 PM
    i would definitely purchase this, if i had a lot of health issues...just to see if it would fix the problems

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    10-29-2014, 01:33 AM
    So how does it work? Is the fluoride and chlorine still in there? How does it make water alkaline? Does it add minerals?
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    10-29-2014, 11:32 AM (This post was last modified: 07-14-2015, 11:52 AM by Steppingfeet.)
    (10-29-2014, 01:33 AM)Guardian Wrote: So how does it work? Is the fluoride and chlorine still in there? How does it make water alkaline? Does it add minerals?

    Hey Guardian, Monica decided to take a break from the forums, but she saw your question and asked me to let you know that you (or anyone else with questions or interest) can reach her through her Bring4th account.

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
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    10-29-2014, 04:26 PM
    (10-29-2014, 01:33 AM)Guardian Wrote: So how does it work? Is the fluoride and chlorine still in there? How does it make water alkaline? Does it add minerals?

    This is a timely post for me Guardian as my partner and I are looking for a 'reverse osmosis' water filter that takes out both chemicals that you mentioned. The minerals can then be added using natural salts, Pink Himalayan salt is what we use to energise and mineralise our bottled drinking water (as it is supplied by our local organic food shop).

    Given my bias, I am holding back on the water filter mentioned above!

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    10-29-2014, 09:48 PM
    I had a reverse osmosis but found that the water tasted dead.

    I am now convinced you either should mix minerals into distilled water / rain water or simply take bottled spring water.
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    02-10-2015, 03:25 PM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2015, 03:29 PM by Monica.)
    (10-29-2014, 09:48 PM)Guardian Wrote: I had a reverse osmosis but found that the water tasted dead.

    I am now convinced you either should mix minerals into distilled water / rain water or simply take bottled spring water.

    I used to add minerals back into my distilled water, but it didn't help much. I got severe health problems from drinking distilled water! RO is the same...both are dead waters and can leach minerals from the body.

    Bottled waters are all oxidizing - contributing to oxidative stress/free radical damage, which in turn contribute to cancer and aging. Plus, cancer-causing chemicals leach into the plastic. Plus, plastic bottles are polluting the planet. (Check out the Pacific garbage patch! Yikes!)

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    02-10-2015, 03:27 PM
    I invited everyone to check out my new website! It has a LOT of info! Contact me via pm for access code.

    http://crystalkangen.com/

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    02-11-2015, 10:51 AM
    Can this help with brain fog?

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    02-11-2015, 07:24 PM
    I can't make any medical claims or talk about specific health issues, but I will say that the brain is 80% water, so you can extrapolate from that.

    I am happy to send you some research info about the brain and hydration, as well as a video of a doctor...contact me via pm.

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    02-12-2015, 12:43 PM
    Water is so fundamental to life. Portions of the body are over 90% water. We have polluted this planet—air, aquifer (underground water), soil. Plastic bottles add to the pollution, but also release chemicals into the water inside them. I would avoid drinking bottled water.
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    02-12-2015, 02:22 PM
    (02-12-2015, 12:43 PM)Diana Wrote: Water is so fundamental to life. Portions of the body are over 90% water. We have polluted this planet—air, aquifer (underground water), soil. Plastic bottles add to the pollution, but also release chemicals into the water inside them. I would avoid drinking bottled water.

    chlorinated water is pretty bad.

    how does your Kangen machine deal with chlorine/flourine Monica?

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    02-12-2015, 04:15 PM
    (02-12-2015, 02:22 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:
    (02-12-2015, 12:43 PM)Diana Wrote: Water is so fundamental to life. Portions of the body are over 90% water. We have polluted this planet—air, aquifer (underground water), soil. Plastic bottles add to the pollution, but also release chemicals into the water inside them. I would avoid drinking bottled water.

    chlorinated water is pretty bad.

    how does your Kangen machine deal with chlorine/flourine Monica?

    It has a built-in, high-grade filter which removes most impurities from municipal water supplies, and additional pre-filters are available if needed. There is no such thing as a 1-size-fits-all filter, and this machine is sold all over the world, with various water issues, depending on the area. But yes, that is easily dealt with. Filtration is just the first step. Water can be very clean, yet still oxidizing and acidic.

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    02-13-2015, 01:08 AM
    thanks Monica.  Yeah, I had a water filter device for a few years, and then the casing broke, so that it couldn't maintain the internal pressure to push the water through the actual filtering action.  I went for a few months without it, but the taste of chlorine/flourine in the water just gagged me out after drinking purified water for so long.

    I eventually bought my own ionizing device.  Partly because I got to experience some Kangen Water during my Homecoming experience BigSmile

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    02-13-2015, 11:25 PM
    Monica, would you be able to tell about your own experience and health benefits with the water?

    I just really wish there were more scientific studies confirming the antioxidant free radical neutralization process.

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    (02-13-2015, 11:25 PM)tamaryn Wrote: Monica, would you be able to tell about your own experience and health benefits with the water?

    I just really wish there were more scientific studies confirming the antioxidant free radical neutralization process.

    I wish I could! But I am prohibited from doing so publicly, due to the medical mafia in the US. (We don't have free speech in the US, when it comes to health issues, due to the corrupt pharmaceutical industry.)

    I would be happy to privately.
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    (02-13-2015, 11:25 PM)tamaryn Wrote: Monica, would you be able to tell about your own experience and health benefits with the water?

    I just really wish there were more scientific studies confirming the antioxidant free radical neutralization process.

    Just do a search on Google SCHOLAR for Electrolyzed Reduced Water and you'll find lots. NOT regular Google, but Google Scholar!

    https://scholar.google.com/

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    07-12-2015, 01:35 AM (This post was last modified: 07-12-2015, 01:37 AM by Cyclops.)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_ioni...lth_claims

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    07-12-2015, 02:15 AM (This post was last modified: 07-12-2015, 02:18 AM by Monica.)
    (07-12-2015, 01:35 AM)Cyclops Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_ioni...lth_claims

    This is an excellent example of how Wikipedia is NOT always accurate! It is, after all, run by humans, subject to human biases.

    A quick search for the technical term, Electrolyzed Reduced Water, on Google SCHOLAR yields much:

    Quote:Electrolyzed–reduced water scavenges active oxygen species and protects DNA from oxidative damage
    S Shirahata, S Kabayama, M Nakano, T Miura… - Biochemical and …, 1997 - Elsevier
    Active oxygen species or free radicals are considered to cause extensive oxidative damage
    to biological macromolecules, which brings about a variety of diseases as well as aging. The
    ideal scavenger for active oxygen should be 'active hydrogen'.'Active hydrogen'can be ...
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    Reduced hemodialysis-induced oxidative stress in end-stage renal disease patients by electrolyzed reduced water
    KC Huang, CC Yang, KT Lee, CT Chien - Kidney international, 2003 - nature.com
    Abstract Reduced hemodialysis-induced oxidative stress in end-stage renal disease
    patients by electrolyzed reduced water. Background Increased oxidative stress in end-stage
    renal disease (ESRD) patients may oxidize macromolecules and consequently lead to ...
    Cited by 100 Related articles All 26 versions Cite Save
    [PDF] from aquaestvita.lt
    Electrolyzed-reduced water protects against oxidative damage to DNA, RNA, and protein
    MY Lee, YK Kim, KK Ryoo, YB Lee, EJ Park - Applied Biochemistry and …, 2006 - Springer
    Abstract The generation of reactive oxygen species is thought to cause extensive oxidative
    damage to various biomolecules such as DNA, RNA, and protein. In this study, the
    preventive, suppressive, and protective effects of in vitro supplementation with ...
    Cited by 48 Related articles All 11 versions Cite Save
    [PDF] from designerwater.co.za
    Hepatoprotective effect of electrolyzed reduced water against carbon tetrachloride-induced liver damage in mice
    CF Tsai, YW Hsu, WK Chen, WH Chang… - Food and Chemical …, 2009 - Elsevier
    The study investigated the protective effect of electrolyzed reduced water (ERW) against
    carbon tetrachloride (CCl4)-induced liver damage. Male ICR mice were randomly divided
    into control, CCl4, CCl4+ silymarin, and CCl4+ ERW groups. CCl4-induced liver lesions ...
    Cited by 54 Related articles All 12 versions Cite Save
    [PDF] from free.fr
    Anti-diabetic effects of electrolyzed reduced water in streptozotocin-induced and genetic diabetic mice
    MJ Kim, HK Kim - Life sciences, 2006 - Elsevier
    Oxidative stress is produced under diabetic conditions and is likely involved in progression
    of pancreatic β-cell dysfunction found in diabetes. Both an increase in reactive oxygen free
    radical species (ROS) and a decrease in the antioxidant defense mechanism lead to the ...
    Cited by 40 Related articles All 10 versions Cite Save
    [PDF] from iamhu.com
    Inhibitory effect of electrolyzed reduced water on tumor angiogenesis
    J Ye, Y Li, T Hamasaki, N Nakamichi… - Biological and …, 2008 - jlc.jst.go.jp
    Vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) is a key mediator of tumor angiogenesis. Tumor
    cells are exposed to higher oxidative stress compared to normal cells. Numerous reports
    have demonstrated that the intracellular redox (oxidation/reduction) state is closely ...
    Cited by 44 Related articles All 51 versions Cite Save
    [HTML] from nature.com
    Electrolyzed-reduced water reduced hemodialysis-induced erythrocyte impairment in end-stage renal disease patients
    KC Huang, CC Yang, SP Hsu, KT Lee, HW Liu… - Kidney …, 2006 - nature.com
    Abstract Chronic hemodialysis (HD) patients increase erythrocyte susceptibility to hemolysis
    and impair cell survival. We explored whether electrolyte-reduced water (ERW) could
    palliate HD-evoked erythrocyte impairment and anemia. Forty-three patients undergoing ...
    Cited by 39 Related articles All 9 versions Cite Save
    Electrolyzed and natural reduced water exhibit insulin-like activity on glucose uptake into muscle cells and adipocytes
    M Oda, K Kusumoto, K Teruya, T Hara, T Maki… - Animal cell technology: …, 2002 - Springer
    Abstract In the type 2 diabetes, it has become clear that reactive oxygen species (ROS)
    cause reduction of glucose uptake by inhibiting the insulin-signaling pathway in muscle cells
    and adipocytes. We demonstrated that electrolyzed-reduced water (ERW) scavenges ...
    Cited by 20 Related articles All 2 versions Cite Save
    [PDF] from researchgate.net
    Preservative Effect of Electrolyzed Reduced Water on Pancreatic. BETA.-Cell Mass in Diabetic db/db Mice
    MJ Kim, KH Jung, YK Uhm, KH Leem… - Biological and …, 2007 - jlc.jst.go.jp
    Oxidative stress is produced under diabetic conditions and involved in progression of
    pancreatic β-cell dysfunction. Both an increase in reactive oxygen free radical species
    (ROS) and a decrease in the antioxidant defense mechanism lead to the increase in ...
    Cited by 20 Related articles All 9 versions Cite Save
    [HTML] from nih.gov
    Suppressive effects of electrolyzed reduced water on alloxan-induced apoptosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus
    Y Li, T Hamasaki, N Nakamichi, T Kashiwagi… - Cytotechnology, 2011 - Springer
    Abstract Electrolyzed reduced water, which is capable of scavenging reactive oxygen
    species, is attracting recent attention because it has shown improved efficacy against
    several types of diseases including diabetes mellitus. Alloxan produces reactive oxygen ...
    Cited by 21 Related articles All 15 versions Cite Save

    That's just page 1.  There are 100's of pages of results.

    http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=elec...sdt=0%2C44

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