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Federation of Light - Lavazza - 01-13-2009
Hi everyone,
I've been thinking on this topic lately and thought it would be rewarding to see how others feel.
I feel I have a bit of a special connection with Blossom Goodchild, as her channeled prediction of the Oct. 14th event was a catalyst for me to become extremely interested in the metaphysical and spiritual... Sort of a forceful awakening. I feel personally that my own experience as an example was the very reason for the prediction, i.e. there was never any intent for a mass display of a flying saucer but rather to cause a large number of entities to seriously consider the possibility, and by doing so, awaken. They gave a reason for the no-show later on, something about if they had come we would have been in danger from some other group (something like that), but this seems weak to me. I would have preferred it if they had just come out and said 'We did it to awaken those sleeping among you'.
Now then, has anyone else followed Blossom's channeling, and if so, do you believe that the entities coming through (The Federation of Light) are in league with the Confederation? It occurred to me that perhaps the name Federation of Light is in some way a mis-channeled interpretation of the Confederation. I feel personally that whoever they are, they are of positive orientation. I feel that's discernible from the transcripts at Blossoms's site: http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/. Blossom herself is, as far as I can tell, very well tuned as an instrument. She radiates positivity and also gives a short prayer before channeling (I assume similarly to Carla's method, although I would need to look in to it further.) The only thing that gives me any pause about them at all is the (what I deem to be) false explanation for their no-show.
When the Oct 14th event fell through, I think a lot of people just turned away. It was a terrible time for Blossom too as the hecklers were having a feeding frenzy over it. But I think a large group of people, myself included, were just left hungry for more information. I wonder if those entities suffered a loss of polarization as a result of sending a prediction through like that. Would it qualify as a violation of free will, even if they didn't show?
Lots of fun discussion points- Looking forward to hearing you weigh in!
RE: Federation of Light - Monica - 01-14-2009
(01-13-2009, 11:57 PM)Lavazza Wrote: Hi everyone,
I've been thinking on this topic lately and thought it would be rewarding to see how others feel.
I feel I have a bit of a special connection with Blossom Goodchild, as her channeled prediction of the Oct. 14th event was a catalyst for me to become extremely interested in the metaphysical and spiritual... Sort of a forceful awakening. I feel personally that my own experience as an example was the very reason for the prediction, i.e. there was never any intent for a mass display of a flying saucer but rather to cause a large number of entities to seriously consider the possibility, and by doing so, awaken. They gave a reason for the no-show later on, something about if they had come we would have been in danger from some other group (something like that), but this seems weak to me. I would have preferred it if they had just come out and said 'We did it to awaken those sleeping among you'.
Now then, has anyone else followed Blossom's channeling, and if so, do you believe that the entities coming through (The Federation of Light) are in league with the Confederation? It occurred to me that perhaps the name Federation of Light is in some way a mis-channeled interpretation of the Confederation. I feel personally that whoever they are, they are of positive orientation. I feel that's discernible from the transcripts at Blossoms's site: http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/. Blossom herself is, as far as I can tell, very well tuned as an instrument. She radiates positivity and also gives a short prayer before channeling (I assume similarly to Carla's method, although I would need to look in to it further.) The only thing that gives me any pause about them at all is the (what I deem to be) false explanation for their no-show.
When the Oct 14th event fell through, I think a lot of people just turned away. It was a terrible time for Blossom too as the hecklers were having a feeding frenzy over it. But I think a large group of people, myself included, were just left hungry for more information. I wonder if those entities suffered a loss of polarization as a result of sending a prediction through like that. Would it qualify as a violation of free will, even if they didn't show?
Lots of fun discussion points- Looking forward to hearing you weigh in!
Oh so THAT's who started that whole mass landing thing, eh?
First I'd like to say that I'm sooooo glad you woke up, Lavazza! You have already made a lot of important contributions to the forum (and probably to the planet!)
I've never read any of Blossom's channeling, but I can say that the question of a mass landing was addressed by Ra early on...Ra stated that they would never land en masse, because it would violate the Free Will of those who'd rather not know about our elder spiritual brethren.
Confederation sources also tend to shy away from any predictions of any exact dates, out of a recognition of the multiple possibilities/probabilites in the space/time continuum...which is something that really stood out to me as I read the LOO.
Apparently it is quite common for positively polarized channels to start out with some positive contact, but at some point get sidetracked into a mixed (or negative) polarity message. Perhaps this is what happened with the Blossom contact...though, again, I have not read any of it so can't comment on it too much...I don't mean to throw the baby out with the bathwater here...since, as you say, much of it is apparently positive, it may be that the overall net effect is one of positive influence.
Having said that, it's important to note that even the mixed-polarity aspects of the message could indeed end up having a positive result, as it did in your case. In other words, even though the mass landing prediction was, apparently, a mixed-polarity message, it had the effect of waking you up, right? So it's all good in the end!
Ra indicated that some of the so-called alien abductions are actually for the purpose of waking people up. Although, not all of them...some are cases of STS domination of the person. But in those cases in which the person has an experience that is so totally outside their paradigm, it's just a total mind-bending experience, and they just can't think about reality in the same way again. So that experience leads to questioning, in an effort to explain what happened...and the questioning leads to awakening.
Hence, some of the seemingly mixed or even negative experiences can result in positive growth.
That's what catalyst is all about!
As for loss of polarization, we really have no way of knowing that...though I'd venture to say that they may have lost a bit of polarization before sending the prediction...maybe that's WHY they didn't recognize it as mixed polarity - and once it didn't happen, maybe they regained polarization after feeling sufficiently humbled. It would have a lot to do with their intentions...was it for the fame and glory of having accurately predicted such a big event? Or was it truly to serve? We just don't know.
Anyway, sorry I can't be of more help with your question about Blossom. I do know that there are a lot of other channeled sources out there, and we generally are trying to avoid getting into too much discussion of them here on this forum (I think I remember reading that in the guidelines someplace!), but I think what I just said about it probably applies to many others as well.
RE: Federation of Light - Lavazza - 01-14-2009
Oops! Yes I see that now in the guidelines post... I don't want to violate any established rules. If so, I'll be happy to disband the thread.
Thanks for your kind words, Dreaming. I'm very happy to be awake
If you're interested in reading some of the FOL channeling let me know and I'll dig up some of what I consider to be more of the insightful ones. The messages feel altruistic, although I agree that it's always good to keep a wary eye open at all times. The mass landing prediction will always be a little questionable to me I guess, in terms of what it all was supposed to mean. But regardless, I've gotten some real helpful bits of info from that source, including some of which helped me decide to meditate on a daily basis.I think you've got some great insight about the alien abduction scenarios. I read from yet another source (that I won't mention here per forum rules) that some times when this happens it is agreed upon by the person's higher self or over soul, not necessarily the conscious personality. In which case, there is no violation of free will.
Back to the FOL issue- is there perhaps a list somewhere that has been compiled of sources that work in accordance with the Law of One? It seems to me that Ra and Q'uo are probably not the only positively oriented entities / complexes that have contacted us here on Earth. There's a podcast called 'The Sons of the Law of One' that presents material like this from many sources. The precondition being that it is in complete accordance with LOO. It'd be great to find a list like that- Maybe I need to start it? From my perspective as a newbie, it can sometimes be really confusing separating the 'legit' from the 'less-than-legit'. Then again, I wouldn't want to be presenting my list as an authority of what is or is not right, so in that sense maybe it's not such a hot idea. Hmmmm...
RE: Federation of Light - Monica - 01-14-2009
(01-14-2009, 02:22 AM)Lavazza Wrote: Oops! Yes I see that now in the guidelines post... I don't want to violate any established rules. If so, I'll be happy to disband the thread.
Thanks for your kind words, Dreaming. I'm very happy to be awake
I think you've got some great insight about the alien abduction scenarios. I read from yet another source (that I won't mention here per forum rules) that some times when this happens it is agreed upon by the person's higher self or over soul, not necessarily the conscious personality. In which case, there is no violation of free will.
Back to the FOL issue- is there perhaps a list somewhere that has been compiled of sources that work in accordance with the Law of One? It seems to me that Ra and Q'uo are probably not the only positively oriented entities / complexes that have contacted us here on Earth. There's a podcast called 'The Sons of the Law of One' that presents material like this from many sources. The precondition being that it is in complete accordance with LOO. It'd be great to find a list like that- Maybe I need to start it? From my perspective as a newbie, it can sometimes be really confusing separating the 'legit' from the 'less-than-legit'. Then again, I wouldn't want to be presenting my list as an authority of what is or is not right, so in that sense maybe it's not such a hot idea. Hmmmm...
Lavazza, I'm not a moderator, so this is just my opinion, but I don't think there's any reason to delete the post, as there are other posts scattered throughout the forum that briefly mention other sources. And I doubt that the mods want us to be paranoid about ever mentioning other sources at all! My impression was that they just didn't want us to get into deep discussions about other sources, analyzing them, quoting them, etc. because that would dilute the purpose of this forum...not to mention add a lot of confusion to those who might not be familiar with the material!
As for a list, I can't be much help on that either.
Not even Ra or Q'uo are willing to put themselves in positions of authority...but would rather we discern for ourselves, for that is part of the process.It might be beneficial to list the sources that have been explicitly approved by Ra/Q'uo, such as a source mentioned by Steve (Joshiah), I would think, but that's a question for the mods.
It's the sources not explicitly approved that are particularly subject to our individual discernment (well, all of it, really).
Hope that helps...somewhat!
RE: Federation of Light - fairyfarmgirl - 01-14-2009
In my experiences with the Federation of Light, they have stated they are here and working individually with those of positive orientation. A mass landing would indeed infringe on Free Will and they have stated this as well.
I do not channel for a living... I simply converse with them. They are always impeccable in their message as is Ra.
Channels do become mixed polarity... the Ego becomes involved eventually... except in the the case of the Ra and the Group and a the Micheal Teachings...
The intent I believe was to inspire awakening... to encourage the movement toward considering other possibilities... For this Blossom did a wonderful job. But what happened when they did not show up... revealed much about the STS crowd and brought forth mixed polarity people as well. It did certainly draw people out and it did certainly polarize some people.
I was fairly indifferent to the prediction.. as predictions come and go... some become so but most are re-written again and again as energies change. The world is becoming LIGHTER and thus so much is changing.
fairyfarmgirl
RE: Federation of Light - 3D Sunset - 01-14-2009
(01-14-2009, 02:22 AM)Lavazza Wrote: It'd be great to find a list like that- Maybe I need to start it? From my perspective as a newbie, it can sometimes be really confusing separating the 'legit' from the 'less-than-legit'. Then again, I wouldn't want to be presenting my list as an authority of what is or is not right, so in that sense maybe it's not such a hot idea. Hmmmm...
Hi Lavazza,
Here's a link to a list of "recommended reading" from David Wilcox's DivineCosmos Forum. There are certainly aspects of DC which I love and admire, and I still post there occasionally. Similarly, it has it's warts as well, IMHO. But this list is pretty well "vetted" with respect to LOO, and David is huge proponent of LOO as well.
For what it's worth. As always, please use your discernment as to any souce that does not come from within.
http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8862
Love and Light,
3D Sunset
RE: Federation of Light - Lavazza - 01-14-2009
Well spoken everyone!
Fairy, thanks for the reference to Michael, I didn't know about that source before. I also just started looking at the Joshiah material yesterday as well. Both seem to be of pure intent. It looks as though my meditative request to find only the best material is bearing fruit!
Sunset, thanks for that list at Divine Cosmos. DW's site was the next one I discovered after Oct 14th, which help assist my discovery of the Q'uo material. I agree that DW presents a lot of helpful information. But I also agree that it isn't perfect. For the newly awake it can pose some huge stumbling blocks. (Just my opinion of course)
RE: Federation of Light - Monica - 01-14-2009
(01-14-2009, 09:43 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I was fairly indifferent to the prediction.. as predictions come and go... some become so but most are re-written again and again as energies change. The world is becoming LIGHTER and thus so much is changing.
Yeah, me too. A friend called me up, all excited, and told me "this is for REAL...a very reliable source...next week there will be a mass landing!" and I was, like, yawn... I didn't even ask her the date, and then promptly forgot about it! It didn't come up again til several weeks later, and someone was talking about what didn't happen a few weeks ago, and I went, 'oh yeah, I forgot all about that...' which shows how little credence I gave it.
I remember back in the early 80s, we were supposed to get lifted off at the time of Halley's Comet...and that date came and went...then there was the "I AM America" map of 1996 - remember that?
We now have a date - Solstice 2012 - that does indeed seem to be valid...but it's the HOW it will all go down that we have to use discernment about. I really don't think we're going to notice too much on that day, at least not in terms of catastrophes...I think it'll be a gradual transition, as Q'uo seems to indicate. But people sure do like to get worked up about predictions!
I guess we'll all find out, eh?
RE: Federation of Light - sos - 01-14-2009
Not to be a party pooper here, but this is typical of a situation in which negative spiritual entities mimic positive ones. A dead giveaway is when specific dates are given for things to occur. This is why channeling is such a liability and cannot be relied on without challenging the source. The "new age" crowd is virtually consumed by this stuff, and 99% of it is bs.
RE: Federation of Light - Lavazza - 01-14-2009
sos: I don't think your comment are in any way a party pooper. I actually appreciate the fact that as a community, we resist absolute ideas or sources. The minute we sit down and say "Alright, this is exactly the way it really is" we've lost the game. We may as well sit down and write our own bible and start a religion. As our guides constantly remind us, there are many ways to the creator, many ways to see the light, and maybe it's supposed to be slightly different for each. I am a little annoyed when I come across websites or materials that seem to embrace every single new age or pseudo-scientific idea, because in a way that material only distracts us, and presents the image of spiritual or new age people as a bit wacky to your average person. And I'm not saying that you can't find truth that way, but it seems much harder to have to constantly separate the true from the false. I can see now also that UFO landing predictions and such also perpetuate this image. To make a long story short- I think it's a wonderful thing to keep a bit of the skeptic alive and watching. Then let intuition and resonance sooth that skeptic when pure information is found. That's one of the gifts that we're given to use in our incarnated state, no?
Sorry, went on a bit of a tangent there. Thanks for listening! And thanks again for these great responses.
RE: Federation of Light - Bring4th_Steve - 01-16-2009
(01-14-2009, 08:09 PM)Lavazza Wrote: From my perspective as a newbie, it can sometimes be really confusing separating the 'legit' from the 'less-than-legit'.
One of the things I learned from Carla's channeling intensive is that challenging the entity in the name of love (or your highest idea of love) is a sure-fire way to qualify that an entity is legit. As it accepts the challenge and takes on your projection of love, you essentially are matching vibrations and will receive information in line with your own highest intention for the session you are entering into.
Everyone had awesome comments on here: a) any date-related material is a giveaway for mixed-polarity or even STS-based content, and b) just because someone starts out positive or sounds positive doesn't mean they will continue on that path.
Personally, I make sure I put my mindset in the mode of being "entertained" while reading content that I am unsure of its purity. However, when I learn that any given channeler enters into a prayer and calls the highest vibration of love to bring Christ-conscious information across the veil, I fell very comfortable with paying closer attention, because almost always the messages contain no fear-based statements and they speak of principles of love instead of "transient" information tied to future events.
I used to really be into the DC material, and I'm glad to see so many people pumped on it. But what troubles me is that if you explore the content that the site supports, it is loaded with fear-based interviews, commentary, transient events, unsubstantiated claims, and in some unusual cases, commentary that seems to contradict material from the LOO series. So I would agree with other comments in this thread in that you really do have to be careful about what sources of info you subscribe to unless you have credible evidence that a strict challenging process is taking place against the channeled contact.
Steve
RE: Federation of Light - Monica - 01-16-2009
(01-16-2009, 05:07 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: ...when I learn that any given channeler enters into a prayer and calls the highest vibration of love to bring Christ-conscious information across the veil, I fell very comfortable with paying closer attention, because almost always the messages contain no fear-based statements and they speak of principles of love instead of "transient" information tied to future events.Well said! And I would add to that: Just because the channeler may say the right words doesn't necessarily mean that their heart is in sync with what they're saying. We can't really discern the deeper motivations of the person based on the written word. For example, just think of a corrupt religious pastor, who publicly prays in the name of Jesus but is corrupt behind the scenes, must to his congregation's dismay when it all comes out later. It happens. We've all heard of those cases.
My point is that, while the person's words/prayers/challenge might indeed be a very good clue as to their intentions, we should still use discernment...look for that resonance...whether reading channeled material, listening to a religious pastor, reading a non-channeled book, or whatever.