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For some reason this makes me laugh - Learner - 07-25-2014
23.6
Ra: ...
"We discovered that for each word we could utter, there were thirty impressions we gave by our very being, which confused those entities we had come to serve. After a short period we removed ourselves from these entities and spent much time attempting to understand how best to serve those to whom we had offered ourselves in love/light."
Wanderers incarnated on earth today must share the same frustration. Sigh...
RE: For some reason this makes me laugh - Adonai One - 07-25-2014
In not being able to communicate ourselves to people effectively? Yep.
RE: For some reason this makes me laugh - Turtle - 07-27-2014
Hah!
Don't try to communicate anything. Just be yourself without any regard whatsoever for attempts to communicate any "higher" concepts to anyone.
You may just find people asking YOU more elaborately framed questions through your willingness to observe and accept them for who they are in that particular moment
RE: For some reason this makes me laugh - Bring4th_Austin - 07-27-2014
(07-25-2014, 01:13 AM)Learner Wrote: 23.6
Ra: ...
"We discovered that for each word we could utter, there were thirty impressions we gave by our very being, which confused those entities we had come to serve. After a short period we removed ourselves from these entities and spent much time attempting to understand how best to serve those to whom we had offered ourselves in love/light."
Wanderers incarnated on earth today must share the same frustration. Sigh...
I think Wanderer's have many frustrations, and in a certain context, what Ra says may be true for them as well. But I think there is a marked difference in the "impressions" Ra gave and the "impressions" a Wanderer may feel they give.
Ra's presence in the physical, as they are, is essentially an undeniable proof of a type of higher being, and in giving spiritual information, I'm sure that humans put them into a context they didn't feel comfortable with, as infallible masters of the universe.
Wanderer's are human. That's not to say that we are beyond worshipping humans and their words, but there is at least plausible deniability of their condition and any perspective they may share. On top of this, Wanderers are subject to the same confusion and veiling that 3d natives are. They must develop a persona compatible enough with society so that they are able to communicate and relate to the social mind enough to effectively communicate their true self, a knowledge which necessarily comes *after* the development of this persona. This means that Wanderers pass a sort of "free will" bar, having been subjected to the same environment, can freely share their ideas about the universe without truly abridging free will since they are sharing with a social mind to which they are native - akin to a scientist freely sharing the results of their experiments.
This is a similar deniability that comes with channeling, since the words are spoken through a human "window." Most channelers channel through the window of their social persona, so it is similar in avoiding free will violation. Ra had to impose their own "window" with Carla, when they cited the Law of Confusion.
Seeing how many people flat out reject the Ra material due to medium, I think the method Ra landed on seems acceptable. Sure, there is still some worship, but much less than if they appeared in person, and I think the benefits of their sharing have far outweighed the detriments.
RE: For some reason this makes me laugh - Adonai One - 07-27-2014
Worshiping usually denotes a dependency. A dependency is allowing one to no longer care for themselves mentally or spiritually. I don't think this is good developmental policy especially if Ra were to show up again. It's irresponsible for those who want to learn how to care themselves in mental and spiritual regards.
RE: For some reason this makes me laugh - Learner - 07-28-2014
I think what Ra said reflects one of the reasons wanderers choose to be here. One really has to be human to truly understand the distortions and difficulties humans experience and learn the ways to overcome them.
RE: For some reason this makes me laugh - Adonai One - 07-28-2014
...or to accept them and live through them in the most satisfying way you can.
RE: For some reason this makes me laugh - lovecast - 07-29-2014
(07-25-2014, 01:13 AM)Learner Wrote: 23.6
Ra: ...
"We discovered that for each word we could utter, there were thirty impressions we gave by our very being, which confused those entities we had come to serve. After a short period we removed ourselves from these entities and spent much time attempting to understand how best to serve those to whom we had offered ourselves in love/light."
Wanderers incarnated on earth today must share the same frustration. Sigh...
How true. But things are changing. You can feel it in the air & in your bones even ... i do at least. The words/logos are there, but now not spoken to the mind as was in the past. If anyone gets what i'm saying here, i'd be interested in hearing from you.