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Red Ray and financial catalyst - Plenum - 05-24-2014
Ra identifies red ray to do with those attitudes and belief patterns around Survival.
Survival, for us today, is rarely about the raw elements of survival, at least not in the physically oriented ways of previous kinds of society. It is not about braving the elements during winter, or not being able to find enough food in the wild to eat. So that red-ray confrontation is not as direct.
However, there is a proxy for that level of Survival in the sense of financial catalyst.
Being short of money (or not having access to money at all) directly affects one's ability to find stable housing and food, and even affects our ability to attract a mate (not that that should be an issue, but it is still present as a social attitude to a large degree).
in short, Financial Catalyst can directly impinge on Survival, and hence the associated red ray functioning and openness.
Chronic exposure to financial catalyst can lead to a perpetual fight/flight response, as the survival of the organism (the physical self) is being brought into question again and again. There is no surety, or comfort, or a relaxing from fearful (detrimental) possible outcomes.
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it also should be noted that Financial Catalyst does not relate exclusively to red ray survival. It can relate, and be interpreted, in many other ways, most notably in orange (self esteem, self worth) and yellow (one's overall standing and place in society).
but in the starkest of ways, once that bank account starts plummeting, and is not being refilled, one's abiility to survive starts becoming raised in one's own mind as an issue.
and accessing government benefits (social support) is a great way to forestall that.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - AnthroHeart - 05-24-2014
I felt the catalyst when my bank account reached $0 a month or so ago. Luckily my cash covered the groceries.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Adonai One - 05-24-2014
A philosophy that may work with this -- although most will probably be immediately repulsed by this (naturally):
"I don't have to live. I don't have to eat or drink. I don't have to have money. I will continue to be conscious regardless, whether in this plane or another."
I call this faith -- absolute faith.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Wai - 05-24-2014
(05-24-2014, 08:47 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: .... once that bank account starts plummeting, and is not being refilled, one's ability to survive starts becoming raised in one's own mind as an issue.
Agree! This is why I am still clinging on to some of my 3D ideas regarding money and survival. It's hard to work on my three middle chakras when my three lower chakras are hungry and fearful.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Jeremy - 05-24-2014
(05-24-2014, 10:08 PM)Adonai One Wrote: A philosophy that may work with this -- although most will probably be immediately repulsed by this (naturally):
"I don't have to live. I don't have to eat or drink. I don't have to have money. I will continue to be conscious regardless, whether in this plane or another."
I call this faith -- absolute faith.
That's most certainly true and even recognized by those that do indeed have the faith to know that this life isn't the only one. With that said, I highly doubt one came into this life with the preincarnational plans to starve to death. Therefore such knowledge that this isn't where the metaphysical road ends does absolutely squat in terms of completing ones plans for this particular life.
What this means is that regardless of whatever continual financial struggle one goes through, simply saying "well, that's that, better luck next time" is quite defeatist and even escapist from ones catalysts at the present moment. This is especially true if one simply gave up and refused to find ways of survival which I would liken to suicide in a sense.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - vervex - 05-24-2014
Thank you for sharing this perspective Plenum. I agree that the catalyst of personal finances can relate to one's survival in society. I would add that the social structure we are part of has made it so that we have become dependent on this tool of exchange in order to sustain; if we still lived close to nature, if we cultivated the land and sewed our own clothes as our ancestors did, survival would be based on acquired practical skills and the abundance of raw resources to build, feed, heal and clothe ourselves. That being said, there are countless advantages which have emerged from living in society, but with them came new sets of issues and new catalysts.
(05-24-2014, 10:08 PM)Adonai One Wrote: "I don't have to live. I don't have to eat or drink. I don't have to have money. I will continue to be conscious regardless, whether in this plane or another."
I call this faith -- absolute faith.
While I agree with you, I find this view a bit extremist. We seek sustenance because we want to fulfill a desire, the desire to be incarnate a this time on Earth. And so long we choose to pursue this desire, we will have to face the catalyst of survival. Perhaps adopting such view could help one be at peace with their decision to come here in the first place but once you embody that desire, does it not become a redundant statement? Personally, I never felt obliged to be here, yet I enjoy my life and I would like it to last as long as humanly possible; thus I seek sustenance. I'm not really afraid of death or starvation; both situations I would like to avoid for now though for obvious reasons
I can say finally that in my case, I would most probably attempt to escape pain more than anything else, not so much an anxiety related to living (which I don't have, as far as I know). But indeed, in the end, all will be well.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Adonai One - 05-24-2014
Conviction, even to basic survival, can form a great repulsion to even the smallest potential threats, a hatred that can grow into proportions that cause much suffering. It is this conviction I seek to ease with the acceptance of even the most dire straits while choosing, in faith, to pursue desires in a paced manner.
I feel a lack of imperatives on every level leads to peace.
I do not feel great conviction (and building this conviction) is necessary to accomplish goals. I can hold great conviction acts against fulfilling desires.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Melissa - 05-25-2014
This was definitely one of the most intense multi-colored catalyst to work with. However, I ended up with an offer to a new rent-free home (whut? Yes, I had to pinch myself a bit.. no rent), more friends and a lawyer named Luck too. Inspired/guided action does seem to work.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Matt1 - 05-25-2014
Red ray catalyst in terms of survial is interesting. I came to the understanding through contemplation that all survial is based upon another. Be it the welfare system, charity hand outs, the trees and even gravity keeping us here on the earth.
Nothing can survive without help from some other force. We are all depend on the creator for our own survival.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - sunnysideup - 05-25-2014
Survival of the richest
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Parsons - 05-25-2014
I agree money is red ray, but I also think it is heavily tied into yellow ray.
19.13 Ra Wrote:Thus, the weakening of the physical vehicle, as you call it, was designed to distort entities towards a predisposition to deal with each other. Thus, the lessons which approach a knowing of love can be begun.
I used to be of the opinion that money was bad in general. Now I see money just enables a more easily dynamic yellow ray interaction.
I do recognize that because wages are so low right now, it is making the meeting of red ray needs needlessly difficult. So I definitely consider it a double edged sword.
The really good news is it only seems necessary/useful during 3rd density which will be over soon-ish.
PS: Awesome/hilarious synchronicity: Pink Floyd - Money started playing just now when I was shuffling my entire music collection.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Adonai One - 05-25-2014
(05-24-2014, 10:32 PM)Jeremy Wrote:(05-24-2014, 10:08 PM)Adonai One Wrote: A philosophy that may work with this -- although most will probably be immediately repulsed by this (naturally):
"I don't have to live. I don't have to eat or drink. I don't have to have money. I will continue to be conscious regardless, whether in this plane or another."
I call this faith -- absolute faith.
That's most certainly true and even recognized by those that do indeed have the faith to know that this life isn't the only one. With that said, I highly doubt one came into this life with the preincarnational plans to starve to death. Therefore such knowledge that this isn't where the metaphysical road ends does absolutely squat in terms of completing ones plans for this particular life.
What this means is that regardless of whatever continual financial struggle one goes through, simply saying "well, that's that, better luck next time" is quite defeatist and even escapist from ones catalysts at the present moment. This is especially true if one simply gave up and refused to find ways of survival which I would liken to suicide in a sense.
I believe to say "well, that is not that, I must attain my goals" sounds reminiscent of a path of control and is the purest essence of rejecting catalyst.
I find myself disturbed that the idea of attaining ones goals by absolute conviction in hardship is considered positively polarizing. In fact, I find myself puzzled at what the negative polarity would do any differently with this made as the standard.
Giving up on eating would be a conviction of oneself to death while one naturally desires sustenance. I have never advocated this path. I just advocate the acceptance of the situation in tandem with one's desires: Trying one's best but accepting a lack of fulfillment when it comes. This connotes being happy with any result while still trying in a state of peace.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - Infinite Unity - 06-14-2018
(05-24-2014, 10:08 PM)Adonai One Wrote: A philosophy that may work with this -- although most will probably be immediately repulsed by this (naturally):
"I don't have to live. I don't have to eat or drink. I don't have to have money. I will continue to be conscious regardless, whether in this plane or another."
I call this faith -- absolute faith.
Walking by pure faith takes indigo activation. I agree with you completely. If you have pure faith, when met by any face of the creator. It completely rectifies the variables, and relegated them to the level of thought they pertain to. Almost like bypassing, witbout the function being skipping, but ultimate balance.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - rva_jeremy - 06-15-2018
Plenum Wrote:it also should be noted that Financial Catalyst does not relate exclusively to red ray survival. It can relate, and be interpreted, in many other ways, most notably in orange (self esteem, self worth) and yellow (one's overall standing and place in society).
Well said, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm reminded of those of Ra's description of the change between second density, where bodily survival is the only coin of the realm, and third density, where other needs emerge:
Ra Wrote:Thus, the beginning entity is one in all innocence oriented towards animalistic behavior using other-selves only as extensions of self for the preservation of the all-self. The entity becomes slowly aware that it has needs, shall we say, that are not animalistic; that is, that are useless for survival. These needs include: the need for companionship, the need for laughter, the need for beauty, the need to know the universe about it. These are the beginning needs. As the incarnations begin to accumulate, further needs are discovered: the need to trade, the need to love, the need to be loved, the need to elevate animalistic behaviors to a more universal perspective.
To the extent that a minimal access to resources constitutes a minimal feeling of inclusion in society, I think the need for money is quite legitimate and uniquely a third ray lesson, and could be deduced from some of the needs those of Ra mention (even though I don't think it was ever considered an exhaustive list). In other words, perhaps survival in a yellow ray sense means recognition of one's value within the social matrix, and we live in a time where that requires funds to minimally accomplish.
RE: Red Ray and financial catalyst - unity100 - 06-16-2018
Red ray directly relates to survival - its our current societal model that forces it to be tied to orange and yellow patterns. Otherwise red ray should have functioned normally like how we see in nature.